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John,
Yours is a succinct example of the ad hominem fallacy.
Regards,
Erik
John Adair wrote:
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Saturday, September 15, 2001 1:58 PM
To:
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Subject:
Re. God & War
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Throughout
history groups have used God to support acts of violence and
killing.
Although I am
not a biblical expert, as I recall, Jesus said something to
the effect of
'if your enemy hits one cheek offer the other'. The message of
Jesus was peace
and love, that all people are God's children. Even in Jesus'
last days, he
took the torture and death without action against his
tormentors.
I am greatly
grieved by the recent violence and feel anger.
I am having trouble
reconciling the words and actions of Jesus and his
message of love
with us acting out our anger with more violence and killing.
I wonder if God's
test here is what we feel and do. Perhaps this world is
really not important.
Perhaps the test is to see if we take this and allow
it to fill us
with anger and act out with violence and killing, or, to
dissolve the
anger and act with forgiveness, peace, and love.
Any constructive
thoughts would be appreciated.
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Neo, you asked
for constructive thoughts on what you just wrote. I don't think I
can be constructive in any way that would help you, but what you wrote
in so naive and asinine that I couldn't stop myself from writing back.
I am sorry ... I know this is not the forum for this, but your thinking
is so dangerously deadly and self destructive that I have to respond.
I suppose if these guys were at your front door and ready to kill you,
your family, and your neighbors you would just let them ... go ahead just
turn your cheek. I suppose that if these guys were to come to your
door and raped your wife, sister, daughter, mother, and raped your ideology
and way of life you would let them ... sure just turn your cheek.
You said that you were not a biblical expert, and you sure are right about
that. Because the bible certainly allows for self defense.
I don't want this to become a biblical discussion, but the turn your cheek
concept has nothing to do with this. Neo, this response is not a
personal attack against you, but your naive, college student like thinking
is extremely dangerous. I apologize to the list for my off topic
input ... But this are very strange times that requires a very strong stance.
Hope you all are with me and the rest of the country.
-H. Sonny Sarkissian-<span style='color:black;
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