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A bit nonsense. There is no correlation
between being religious and being moral. It was the Catholic church
that introduced and used burning at the stake for "heretics"
Lionel Issen<A
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Erik C. Olson
To: <A title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx">metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 5:35
PM
Subject: Re: Religion
I'm with Ullrich on this one. His list of religions'
institutional contributions (medicine, universal education, etc.) to
civilization is worth rereading. And that list could go on and on.
Furthermore, a fair reading of history shows that the vast majority of the
contributions he cites came from adherents of one major world religion in
particular.
I daresay most current members of Western society don't even begin to
recognize the extent to which the elements of our culture and society which
they most prize--concepts like equality, freedom of conscience, freedom of
speech, freedom of assembly, due process, the rule of law, humane treatment
and roughly symmetrical punishment of criminals, the care of the
disadvantaged, and on and on and on and on--are the product of a
Judeo-Christian heritage. Many intellectual historians would also
attribute the flowering of scientific inquiry and technological innovation in
Western civilization to that same Judeo-Christian heritage.
Incidentally, it is far from true that "religion" in general has led to
more deaths than the plague, AIDS, cancer, etc. There indeed have been
particular religious movements at certain points in history that readily
killed non-adherents. But in most cases these movements have been the
exception, not the norm, and often the violence is more parsimoniously
explainable in political, economic, territorial, and/or ethnic/cultural terms
than in essentially religious/doctrinal terms.
Moreover, the deadliest movements in history have been explicitly non- or
anti-religious. Remarkably many of these came just in the past century,
and from leaders whose anti-religious rhetoric and values were
well-established: Stalin, Mao, Hitler, and their proteges.
Anyhow, enough for one message. Thanks for the dialogue.
Regards, Erik
"Genevieve, Louisa, Herve" wrote:
Point taken. I agree things are more complex
than just black and white. i just hope bush knows it too.<FONT
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<A title=uf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:uf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">Ullrich Fischer
To: <A title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx">metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; <A
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx">metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001
8:09 PM
Subject: RE:
Religion True, but on the other hand, religion has produced
Mother Teresa, the preservation of what was left of human knowledge and
history during the dark ages, medical care for countless people who
otherwise would have died without it, basic education for countless
people who otherwise would have remained illiterate, etc. etc. etc.
It is not all black ... or white.
The dark side of religion as represented today by the fundamentalists
of all stripes continues as always to push humanity back to the Dark Ages.
This time, the US really is on the side of the angels.
Has anyone thought of a possible link between Falwell and his posse and
the Islamic terrorists? They do seem to be demanding similar changes
in US society.
At 9/16/2001 08:33 AM, Genevieve, Louisa, Herve wrote:
<FONT
color=#0000ff>I could not agree more. Religion (any of
them) must have killed more people than plague, aids and cancer put
together! God is just a poor excuse for not taking responsability for
our own action and destiny. Religion is the worst plague than humanity
never had to fight. <FONT
color=#0000ff>Herve
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owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [<A
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voltage
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 10:25 AM
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Religion
Throughout history it has been the
excuse of all radical fundamentalists as an excuse for murder.Lets
restart day one with no religion to compensate for those lowest common
denominators.We are the masters of our own destiny,not
"God"
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