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Re: Stop Orders: Market vs. Limit



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To be assured of a fill, price must trade thru your stop price.
There may be 10 orders to sell at 45, but only 6 offers to buy at 45.  

Al
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> From: neo <neo1@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Stop Orders: Market vs. Limit
> Date: Thursday, September 06, 2001 11:01 AM
> 
> I called my broker to find out what price triggers the stop order.
According
> to them it is the Bid that triggers a stop order.
> 
> neo
> 
> 
> ~  -----Original Message-----
> ~  From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ~  [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of neo
> ~  Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 10:09 AM
> ~  To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ~  Subject: RE: Stop Orders: Market vs. Limit
> ~
> ~
> ~  I still do not understand stop orders. What exactly is meant by
> ~  "once your
> ~  stop is elected"?
> ~  What exactly triggers the stop price? The bid, the ask, most
> ~  recent price,
> ~  any order past the price?
> ~
> ~  Thanks, neo
> ~
> ~  ~  -----Original Message-----
> ~  ~  From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ~  ~  [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Al Taglavore
> ~  ~  Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:11 PM
> ~  ~  To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ~  ~  Subject: Re: Stop Orders: Market vs. Limit
> ~  ~
> ~  ~
> ~  ~  Quoted from a Lind-Waldock order guide;
> ~  ~
> ~  ~  "2.Limit order-Use this type of order when you want to be filled
> ~  ~  only at a
> ~  ~  specified price or better.  A limit buy order is placed at or
> ~  below the
> ~  ~  current market price, while a limit sell order is placed at
> ~  or above the
> ~  ~  current price.With certain caveats, you are guaranteed a fill if
> ~  ~  the market
> ~  ~  trades THOUGH your price.  If the market merely trades AT
> ~  your price, you
> ~  ~  are not guaranteed a fill.
> ~  ~
> ~  ~  "8.Stop Limit order-Use this type of ordr when you don't want to
> ~  ~  be filled
> ~  ~  any worse than your stop price.  Here, your stop and limit
> ~  prices are the
> ~  ~  same.  Again, your order will become a straight limit order
> ~  if, once your
> ~  ~  stop is elected, the broker is unable to execute your order
> ~  at your price
> ~  ~  or better."
> ~  ~
> ~  ~  Hope this helps.
> ~  ~
> ~  ~  AlT
> ~  ~  ----------
> ~  ~  > From: neo <neo1@xxxxxxxxx>
> ~  ~  > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ~  ~  > Subject: RE: Stop Orders: Market vs. Limit
> ~  ~  > Date: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:27 AM
> ~  ~  >
> ~  ~  > Claud
> ~  ~  >
> ~  ~  > What do you mean by the "price"? As I understand it, a
> ~  limit order must
> ~  ~  be
> ~  ~  > executed within the bid ask spread. If one had a stop
> ~  market order at,
> ~  ~  say,
> ~  ~  > 6% below the current price, could someone place a limit order
> ~  ~  at 7% below
> ~  ~  > the current price and capture your stop order? What
> ~  determines when the
> ~  ~  stop
> ~  ~  > "price" is hit?
> ~  ~  >
> ~  ~  > Thanks, neo
> ~  ~  >
> ~  ~  > ~  -----Original Message-----
> ~  ~  > ~  From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ~  ~  > ~  [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Claud
Baruch
> ~  ~  > ~  Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 2:06 PM
> ~  ~  > ~  To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ~  ~  > ~  Subject: Re: Stop Orders: Market vs. Limit
> ~  ~  > ~
> ~  ~  > ~
> ~  ~  > ~  There are 4 orders:
> ~  ~  > ~
> ~  ~  > ~  Market Order.....you sell at the bid.
> ~  ~  > ~  Limit Order....You will only sell at your specified limit. (No
> ~  ~  guarantee
> ~  ~  > ~  of execution.
> ~  ~  > ~  Stop Order....Once the price  you designate as "Stop", it
becomes
> ~  ~  > ~  a market order.
> ~  ~  > ~  Stop Limit...Once the price reaches your designated price,
> ~  ~  it becomes
> ~  ~  > ~  a limit Order...you won't accept less. (No guarantee of
> ~  execution.)
> ~  ~  > ~
> ~  ~  > ~  Claud
> ~  ~  > ~
> ~  ~  > ~  neo wrote:
> ~  ~  > ~
> ~  ~  > ~  > Would someone please further my understanding of
> ~  market and limit
> ~  ~  stop
> ~  ~  > ~  > orders?
> ~  ~  > ~  >
> ~  ~  > ~  > As I understand it, all limit orders must be filled within
the
> ~  ~  bid/ask
> ~  ~  > ~  > spread. With a stop market order, it seems that someone
could
> ~  ~  > ~  just place a
> ~  ~  > ~  > limit order and buy/sell one's stock well outside of the
> ~  ~  > ~  trading range. Is
> ~  ~  > ~  > this true? If so, they would be useless.
> ~  ~  > ~  >
> ~  ~  > ~  > The problem with a limit stop order is that the price could
be
> ~  ~  > ~  passed in a
> ~  ~  > ~  > gap and not get filled.
> ~  ~  > ~  >
> ~  ~  > ~  > Thanks, neo
> ~  ~  > ~
> ~  ~
> ~
> ~