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<font
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<font
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<font
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"Courier New";color:black'>> we have now. 
Certainly you're not suggesting having the courage to go<font
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"Courier New";color:black'>> without a stop will be best, so I think I'm
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<font
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<font
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<font
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"Courier New";color:black'>Almost every system will show lower profits with
stops and profits will<span
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<font
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<font
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"Courier New";color:black'>Now the other side of the coin is that tightening
stops (to some minimum<span
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<font
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"Courier New";color:black'>point) reduces drawdown which means that the equity
required to trade the<span
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<font
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yes"> This means that with a given account size you can trade<font
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<font
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<font
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minimize drawdown and<span
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<font
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<span
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David Hunt

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