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From: owner-metastock-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (metastock-digest)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:23:34 -0700
To: metastock-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: metastock-digest V1 #1224
metastock-digest Thursday, December 14 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1224
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:29:05 EST
From: Macromnt@xxxxxxx
Subject: Real Trader
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Hi!
Does somedody know how to register on the Real Traders list?
Thanks.
Jean Jacques
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2><I>Hi!
<BR>
<BR>Does somedody know how to register on the Real Traders list?
<BR>
<BR>Thanks.
<BR>
<BR>Jean Jacques
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:44:22 -0500
From: "Brian Haviland" <BHaviland@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: OT Thanks Glen EOM
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From: "Glen Wallace" <gcwallace@xxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: OT viruses and Outlook 5.5
> Brian:
>
> There have been several weaknesses identified and patches released over
the
> years relating to malicious ActiveX and Java scripts. You should run
Start |
> Settings | Windows Update regularly to ensure you have all of Microsoft's
> security patches installed.
>
> Personally, I have all ActiveX and Java scripting disabled for Outlook
> Express, and I have Internet Explorer set to confirm scripting. I decline
to
> accept scripts from sites I do not inherently trust. Disabling it will
> sometimes result in web pages not creating properly or, in some cases, at
all.
> If you trust the site and really want the information, you can just
refresh
> the web page and accept the ActiveX script. Kind of a pain, but what's a
guy
> to do.
>
> If you're interested in learning more, Georgi Guninski's site can be found
at
> http://www.guninski.com/
>
> Regards.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Haviland" <BHaviland@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 9:14 AM
> Subject: OT viruses and Outlook 5.5
>
> > Article about a weakness in 5.5 that might allow someone to take over
your
> > computer from the outside! Yikes! (8^o)
> > http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-3786758.html?tag=st.ne.1002.bgif.ni
> > Question for the cognoscenti: should one disable all the "ActiveX"
options
> > as well as active scripting further down on the list. In what way might
> > disabling these things cause problems? Would I get a message saying a
given
> > download or whatever needed to have one of these functions so that I
could
> > turn it on temporarily?
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
>
>
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:19:23 -0600
From: Fred Icard <ficard@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Real Trader
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>Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 10:20:51 -0500
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>Subject: [realtraders] Registration clarification
>
>This note is to clarify the earlier message regarding the changeover of
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>If you have already registered in the past with Egroups:
>When you view the My Groups tab or visit http://www.egroups.com/mygroups,
>you should see Realtraders as an additional group listed, and your online
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>If you have not used Egroups before:
>Go to www.egroups.com and register for access using the exact same email
>address you use to receive Realtraders messages from the old system. It
>must be the exact name to automatically match you up with the group
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>with Egroups, you should see Realtraders after clicking on the "My Groups"
>tab, or going to www.egroups.com/mygroups
>If you do not register with Egroups, you will still receive email for
>messages to the new group, but will be unable to access message archives,
>the files area, or change user settings using your web browser.
>In either case above, there is no need to re-register for the Realtraders
>group, once you are registered to Egroups. All past members of Realtraders
>were transferred over and setup for access to the group. Your choice of
>either receiving individual emails or digest form has also been
>automatically setup as well.
>I apologize if there was any confusion, and hope this is more descriptive
>and helps you get onto the new Egroup smoothly.
>If there are any problems in the registration process with Egroups, you
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>
At 09:29 PM 12/12/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Does somedody know how to register on the Real Traders list?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Jean Jacques
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Subject: [realtraders] Registration clarification <br>
<br>
This note is to clarify the earlier message regarding the changeover of
the Realtraders group to the Egroups site. <br>
<b>If you have already registered in the past with Egroups</b>: <br>
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you should see Realtraders as an additional group listed, and your online
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and register for access using the <u>exact same email address</u> you use to receive Realtraders messages from the old system. It must be the exact name to automatically match you up with the group address list provided from the old system. After you complete registration with Egroups, you should see Realtraders after clicking on the "My Groups" tab, or going to www.egroups.com/mygroups</a></u></font> <br>
If you do not register with Egroups, you will still receive email for messages to the new group, but will be unable to access message archives, the files area, or change user settings using your web browser. <br>
In either case above, there is <u>no need</u> to re-register for the Realtraders group, once you are registered to Egroups. All past members of Realtraders were transferred over and setup for access to the group. Your choice of either receiving individual emails or digest form has also been automatically setup as well. <br>
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<br>
At 09:29 PM 12/12/00 -0500, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2><i>Hi! <br>
<br>
Does somedody know how to register on the Real Traders list? <br>
<br>
Thanks. <br>
<br>
Jean Jacques <br>
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:33:04 +0100
From: "Jossart Alain" <Alain.Jossart@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Metastock Developers Kit
It seems the Downloader is one of the test tools used by Equis MSDK
developers. By the way, it is the Downloader setup procedure which does
install the MSFL DLL (I think to remember Metastock itself does NOT use it)
!
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Allan Havemose" <havemose@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 2:49 AM
Subject: Re: Metastock Developers Kit
> Sven,
>
> Anything you can do with the downloader you can do with the developers
> kit (provided you get the "write" version). There is almost a
> one-to-one mapping between capabilities in the downloader and the MSFL.
>
> Allan
>
> --- Sven Hedrich <shedrich@xxxxxx> wrote:
> > We are taking into consideration to buy a copy of Metastock 7.0
> > Concearning this we have the following question about the Developers
> > Kit:
> > Is it possible to change the companies stored in one folder
> > automatically
> > (with a macro)?
> > Example:
> > We have two Portfolios
> > We would like to store all the Portfolio constituents in a separate
> > Folder,
> > so we can glance through all the charts without having to open all
> > the
> > stocks separately.
> > As the Portfolio holdings change quite frequently we would have to
> > change
> > the stocks in the Folder quite often. We don't want to do that
> > manually.
> > As we have the ticker symbol of all the stocks in the Portfolio we
> > had the
> > idea to wrtie a macro wich would rearrange the folder on a daily
> > basis.
> > Is this possible with the Developers Kit?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your reply
> >
> > Sven Hedrich
> >
>
>
> =====
> ---
> Allan Havemose, Ph.D.
> havemose@xxxxxxxxxx
> havemose@xxxxxxxxx
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products.
> http://shopping.yahoo.com/
>
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:31:40 +0100
From: Lars Widlund <Lars.Widlund@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Request For Data on SOX.X Index
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Hi.
>From this site you can download it in a csv-file. Open it in excel and copy and paste it to the downloader.
http://chart.yahoo.com/t?a=01&b=01&c=20&d=12&e=12&f=00&g=d&s=sox&y=0&z=%5Esox
Best regard.
Lars Widlund
Song Fox skrev:
> Hi.
>
> I wish someone could help me, by sending me a couple of years of data on the SOX Index.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Songyun Fox
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Hi.
<br>From this site you can download it in a csv-file. Open it in excel
and copy and paste it to the downloader.
<br>http://chart.yahoo.com/t?a=01&b=01&amp;c=20&amp;d=12&amp;e=12&amp;f=00&amp;g=d&amp;s=sox&amp;y=0&amp;z=%5Esox</A>
<br>Best regard.
<br>Lars Widlund
<p>Song Fox skrev:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font color="#CC33CC">Hi.</font>
<p><font color="#CC33CC">I wish someone could help me, by sending me a
couple of years of data on the SOX Index.</font>
<p><font color="#CC33CC">Thank you.</font>
<p><font color="#CC33CC">Songyun Fox</font></blockquote>
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:30:30 -0500
From: "Lloyd Nicholas" <omega50@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: testing
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:49:26 +0100
From: "Jean-Roland Quastana" <jean-roland.quastana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: cycles
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Thanks a lot Jeff.
I'll investigate more this indicator, although I've never been able to =
build a robust system with this kind of cycle indicator...
Jean-Roland
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jeff Haferman=20
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: cycles
In response to Jean-Roland, I would say first take a look at
http://www.equis.com/free/taaz/fourier.html =20
I think the explanation there is pretty clear and it would be
difficult for me to do much better, but I'll try...
Here is an example... apply the FFT indicator to a security
of your choice. You will get a few "predominate cycle
lengths". Let's say (for sake of this example) that the
strongest cycle length is 205 days (which is the length
used for U.S. Steel on the web page above). A very very
rough way to use this is to find the low price over the
past year, then, advance 102 days (half of the cycle length
of 205) and this is where you could roughly expect the price
maximum, then advance another 103 days (to fill the cycle)
and you could roughly expect a (local) minimum.
[if you're good with your computer, you could try overlaying
a sin-wave with the same cycle-length to see where the
maximum and minumum prices "should" be according to the
Fourier transform].
I personally have not used this indicator or tried to analyze
or forecast security prices using cycles, because I'm
on other types of wild goose chases :)
Jean-Roland Quastana wrote:
>Could you tell us mor precisely how to work with FFT indicator, maybe =
=3D
>with a practical example.
>I've been trying to understand this indicator for a (too long) =
while...
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jean-Roland
> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
> From: Jeff Haferman=3D20
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 12:34 AM
> Subject: Re: cycles
>
>
>
> Chuck,
> Take a look at the FFT stuff built into Metastock=3D20
> (online look at http://www.equis.com/free/taaz/fourier.html)
>
> This will tell you the predominate cycle lengths for the
> time series under investigation.
>
> You can look at the cycles fractally also (see Edgar Peters "Chaos =
and
> Order in Capital Markets").
>
> Good luck,
> Jeff
>
>
> Charles Warren wrote:
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I am looking to develop an algorithm for an exploration of stocks =
=3D
>that =3D3D
> >will determine the frequency (number of time periods) from valley =
to =3D
>=3D3D
> >valley dips, and where the stock is at relative to a projected =
next =3D
>=3D3D
> >valley (or peak). If you manually use the cycle lines feature on =
a =3D
>=3D3D
> >single stock chart you can place a starting point (date) and =
change =3D
>the =3D3D
> >frequency of the time intervals among a series of vertical lines, =
=3D3D
> >attempting to match up the peaks or valleys in a cycling stock =
over a =3D
>=3D3D
> >time frame. The goal of the algoithm is to determine if the stock =
is =3D
>=3D3D
> >near a projected valley (or peak) based on its past tendencies to =
=3D
>form =3D3D
> >valleys or peaks at certain intervals.
> >
> >Chuck
> >
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DTahoma size=3D3D2>Could you tell us mor precisely =
how to =3D
>work with=3D20
>FFT indicator, maybe with a practical example.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DTahoma size=3D3D2>I've been trying to understand =
this =3D
>indicator for=3D20
>a (too long) while...</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DTahoma size=3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DTahoma size=3D3D2>Jean-Roland</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
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> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
> <DIV=3D20
> style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D
>black"><B>From:</B>=3D20
> <A href=3D3D"mailto:haferman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"=3D20
> title=3D3Dhaferman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Jeff Haferman</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"=3D20
> title=3D3Dmetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> ; =
<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"=3D20
> title=3D3Dmetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> =
</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December =
12, =3D
>2000 12:34=3D20
> AM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: cycles</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV><BR>Chuck,<BR>Take a look at the FFT stuff built =
into =3D
>Metastock=3D20
> <BR>(online look at <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.equis.=
com=3D
>/free/taaz/fourier.html</A>)<BR><BR>This=3D20
> will tell you the predominate cycle lengths for the<BR>time series =
=3D
>under=3D20
> investigation.<BR><BR>You can look at the cycles fractally also =
(see =3D
>Edgar=3D20
> Peters "Chaos and<BR>Order in Capital Markets").<BR><BR>Good=3D20
> luck,<BR>Jeff<BR><BR><BR>Charles Warren=3D20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Hi,<BR>><BR>>I am looking to develop an =
=3D
>algorithm=3D20
> for an exploration of stocks that =3D3D<BR>>will determine the =
=3D
>frequency=3D20
> (number of time periods) from valley to =3D3D<BR>>valley dips, =
and =3D
>where the=3D20
> stock is at relative to a projected next =3D3D<BR>>valley (or =
=3D
>peak). If=3D20
> you manually use the cycle lines feature on a =3D3D<BR>>single =
stock =3D
>chart you=3D20
> can place a starting point (date) and change the =
=3D3D<BR>>frequency =3D
>of the=3D20
> time intervals among a series of vertical lines, =
=3D3D<BR>>attempting =3D
>to match=3D20
> up the peaks or valleys in a cycling stock over a =3D3D<BR>>time =
=3D
>frame. =3D20
> The goal of the algoithm is to determine if the stock is =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>near a=3D20
> projected valley (or peak) based on its past tendencies to =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Thanks a lot Jeff.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>I'll investigate more this indicator, =
although=20
I've never been able to build a robust system with this kind of cycle=20
indicator...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Jean-Roland</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:haferman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"=20
title=3Dhaferman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Jeff Haferman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"=20
title=3Dmetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 12, =
2000 10:36=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: cycles</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>In response to Jean-Roland, I would say first take =
a look=20
at<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.equis.com=
/free/taaz/fourier.html</A> =20
<BR>I think the explanation there is pretty clear and it would =
be<BR>difficult=20
for me to do much better, but I'll try...<BR><BR>Here is an example... =
apply=20
the FFT indicator to a security<BR>of your choice. You will get =
a few=20
"predominate cycle<BR>lengths". Let's say (for sake of this =
example)=20
that the<BR>strongest cycle length is 205 days (which is the =
length<BR>used=20
for U.S. Steel on the web page above). A very very<BR>rough way =
to use=20
this is to find the low price over the<BR>past year, then, advance 102 =
days=20
(half of the cycle length<BR>of 205) and this is where you could =
roughly=20
expect the price<BR>maximum, then advance another 103 days (to fill =
the=20
cycle)<BR>and you could roughly expect a (local) minimum.<BR>[if =
you're good=20
with your computer, you could try overlaying<BR>a sin-wave with the =
same=20
cycle-length to see where the<BR>maximum and minumum prices "should" =
be=20
according to the<BR>Fourier transform].<BR><BR>I personally have not =
used this=20
indicator or tried to analyze<BR>or forecast security prices using =
cycles,=20
because I'm<BR>on other types of wild goose chases=20
:)<BR><BR><BR><BR>Jean-Roland Quastana wrote:<BR>>Could you tell us =
mor=20
precisely how to work with FFT indicator, maybe =3D<BR>>with a =
practical=20
example.<BR>>I've been trying to understand this indicator for a =
(too long)=20
=
while...<BR>><BR>>Thanks,<BR>><BR>>Jean-Roland<BR>> =
- -----=20
Original Message -----=3D20<BR>> From: Jeff =
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a look=20
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at <A=20
=
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This will tell you the predominate cycle lengths for the<BR>> =
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Jeff<BR>><BR>><BR>> Charles Warren wrote:<BR>> =
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 05:52:55 -0600
From: Song Fox <songyun@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Request For Data on SOX.X Index
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Thank you Lars, I have it now.
Songyun Fox
Lars Widlund wrote:
> Hi.
> From this site you can download it in a csv-file. Open it in excel and
> copy and paste it to the downloader.
> http://chart.yahoo.com/t?a=01&b=01&a
> p;c=20&d=12&e=12&f=00&g=d&s=sox&y=0&z=%5Esox
>
> Best regard.
> Lars Widlund
>
> Song Fox skrev:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I wish someone could help me, by sending me a couple of years of
>> data on the SOX Index.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Songyun Fox
>
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Thank you Lars, I have it now.
<br>Songyun Fox
<p>Lars Widlund wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hi.
<br>From this site you can download it in a csv-file. Open it in excel
and copy and paste it to the downloader.
<br>http://chart.yahoo.com/t?a=01&b=01&amp;c=20&amp;d=12&amp;e=12&amp;f=00&amp;g=d&amp;s=sox&amp;y=0&amp;z=%5Esox</a>
<br>Best regard.
<br>Lars Widlund
<p>Song Fox skrev:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font color="#CC33CC">Hi.</font>
<p><font color="#CC33CC">I wish someone could help me, by sending me a
couple of years of data on the SOX Index.</font>
<p><font color="#CC33CC">Thank you.</font>
<p><font color="#CC33CC">Songyun Fox</font></blockquote>
</blockquote>
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:09:56 +0100
From: Lars Widlund <Lars.Widlund@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Request For Data on SOX.X Index
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Songyun.
I am glad I could help.
Best regard.
Lars Widlund
Song Fox skrev:
> Thank you Lars, I have it now.
> Songyun Fox
>
> Lars Widlund wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>> From this site you can download it in a csv-file. Open it in excel and copy and paste it to the downloader.
>> http://chart.yahoo.com/t?a=01&b=01&c=20&d=12&e=12&f=00&g=d&s=sox&y=0&z=%5Esox
>> Best regard.
>> Lars Widlund
>>
>> Song Fox skrev:
>>
>> > Hi.
>> >
>> > I wish someone could help me, by sending me a couple of years of data on the SOX Index.
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> > Songyun Fox
>>
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Songyun.
<br>I am glad I could help.
<br>Best regard.
<br>Lars Widlund
<p>Song Fox skrev:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Thank you Lars, I have it now.
<br>Songyun Fox
<p>Lars Widlund wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hi.
<br>From this site you can download it in a csv-file. Open it in excel
and copy and paste it to the downloader.
<br>http://chart.yahoo.com/t?a=01&b=01&amp;c=20&amp;d=12&amp;e=12&amp;f=00&amp;g=d&amp;s=sox&amp;y=0&amp;z=%5Esox</a>
<br>Best regard.
<br>Lars Widlund
<p>Song Fox skrev:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font color="#CC33CC">Hi.</font>
<p><font color="#CC33CC">I wish someone could help me, by sending me a
couple of years of data on the SOX Index.</font>
<p><font color="#CC33CC">Thank you.</font>
<p><font color="#CC33CC">Songyun Fox</font></blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:54:30 -0000
From: "Steve Brann" <steveb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
Good day.
When I chart RSI(9) I get a certain value, as displayed by the data window,
per security per date. When I put RSI(9) into an exploration I get a
different value for that same security on the same day. Is this a known
problem and are there any work arounds? Aslo, which one is correct?
Regards
Steve
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:06:47 -0600
From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: cycles
When Peters books were reviewed after they came out, the main criticism, by
the reviewers, was that they are mathematically demanding and they do not
provide a trading method. Peters' books are interesting and he has enough
text so that a non-mathematician can sort of understand the thrust of his
ideas.
Peters references Hurst's paper (Hurst numbers) which was published in the
Transactions of the American Society of Civil Engineers around 1942. I
looked up his paper and I suspect that Hurst must have been as much of a
statistician as he was a hydraulic engineer. Considering the state of the
art of statistics back in the 1930's, Hurst's paper is most impressive.
Some time ago I tried to use Metastock Fourier analysis. The results were
poor as the dominant cycle was always close to the time interval of the
displayed data.
Lionel Issen
lissen@xxxxxxxxx
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Haferman" <haferman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: cycles
>
> Hi Dave,
> I've never tried using the Metastock Fourier stuff on an
> exploration, like you I've just done charting with it. I'm
> involved with refining my own systems, so I have not devoted
> anytime to this.
>
> As for the fractal approach, Edgar Peters books are very good
> at explaining the underlying ideas (but the books are not
> for the mathematically faint-of-heart). The *basic* idea is
> that market prices are cyclical, but non-periodic. A practical
> example from nature of a non-periodic cycle is the sunspot
> cycle... see for example
> http://www.sunspotcycle.com
> http://science.nasa.gov/ssl/pad/solar/predict.htm
> or especially the plot at
> http://www.sunspotcycle.com/images/zurich.gif
>
> Anyway, Peters describes how to use "rescaled range" analysis
> (also called "R/S" analyses) to determine cycle lengths for
> the sunspot cycle, and then moves on to the stock market.
>
> I can go into more detail, but the bottom line (as far as
> I'm concerned) is that while Peter's books are extremely
> fascinating, there is nothing in them that will help people
> put together a practical trading system unless you are
> extremely creative. That being said, there is a website
> devoted to Edgar Peters at
> http://oara.org/mpc/fma
>
> Some programs that implement some details of "R/S" analysis
> have been put together by John Conover and are available at
> http://www.johncon.com/ntropix
>
> I've been using the programs at the above site for the last
> couple of years, and while I have a much better understanding
> of the theory of fractal "behavior" of markets, I have come
> to believe that as a practical matter, T/A concepts such
> as support and resistance, momentum, and price/volume
> relationships are easier to understand and implement, and
> can also produce profits.
>
> Sorry for the long-winded reply.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Dave Nadeau wrote:
> >Jeff,
> >
> >I'm a big fan of Fourier Analysis, as I've used it in other
> >work. But I have been unsuccessful in getting it to work
> >in anything other than a MetaStock chart. In an
> >exploration, any variations I've tried or number of bars
> >loaded has produced a result of N/A. I'm wondering if you
> >have any ideas or have had any success working around this.
> >
> >Can you elaborate on the fractal approach? It sounds like
> >an interesting piece of work. I will look up the book as
> >well.
> >
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:12:20 -0700
From: PD Manager <pdmanager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Metastock Developers Kit
Both MetaStock and The DownLoader use the MSFL DLL for access to MetaStock
data files.
Ken Hunt
Programming Manager
Equis International
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jossart Alain [mailto:Alain.Jossart@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 3:33 AM
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Metastock Developers Kit
It seems the Downloader is one of the test tools used by Equis MSDK
developers. By the way, it is the Downloader setup procedure which does
install the MSFL DLL (I think to remember Metastock itself does NOT use it)
!
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Allan Havemose" <havemose@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 2:49 AM
Subject: Re: Metastock Developers Kit
> Sven,
>
> Anything you can do with the downloader you can do with the developers
> kit (provided you get the "write" version). There is almost a
> one-to-one mapping between capabilities in the downloader and the MSFL.
>
> Allan
>
> --- Sven Hedrich <shedrich@xxxxxx> wrote:
> > We are taking into consideration to buy a copy of Metastock 7.0
> > Concearning this we have the following question about the Developers
> > Kit:
> > Is it possible to change the companies stored in one folder
> > automatically
> > (with a macro)?
> > Example:
> > We have two Portfolios
> > We would like to store all the Portfolio constituents in a separate
> > Folder,
> > so we can glance through all the charts without having to open all
> > the
> > stocks separately.
> > As the Portfolio holdings change quite frequently we would have to
> > change
> > the stocks in the Folder quite often. We don't want to do that
> > manually.
> > As we have the ticker symbol of all the stocks in the Portfolio we
> > had the
> > idea to wrtie a macro wich would rearrange the folder on a daily
> > basis.
> > Is this possible with the Developers Kit?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your reply
> >
> > Sven Hedrich
> >
>
>
> =====
> ---
> Allan Havemose, Ph.D.
> havemose@xxxxxxxxxx
> havemose@xxxxxxxxx
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products.
> http://shopping.yahoo.com/
>
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:26:47 -0500
From: "Vitaly Larichev" <vitaly-l@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: cycles
Lionel,
> Some time ago I tried to use Metastock Fourier analysis. The results were
> poor as the dominant cycle was always close to the time interval of the
> displayed data.
This is my perception as well of what Metastock Fourier analysis can do. To
be fair, I should add that the sensitivity to the time interval is actually
inherent in Fourier analysis, whether it's financial series or anything
else, by Metastock or some university.
Without elaborating much, I think an analogy with simple averaging versus
EMA is very much appropriate here: SMA is sensitive to what happens at the
far end of the time interval. This is why one tends to choose EMA when
dealing with long time intervals. So what we would need here instead is a
sort of "exponentially modulated" Fourier analysis. I don't know what it
really can be :-) .
Cheers, Vitaly
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday December 13 2000 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: cycles
> When Peters books were reviewed after they came out, the main criticism,
by
> the reviewers, was that they are mathematically demanding and they do not
> provide a trading method. Peters' books are interesting and he has enough
> text so that a non-mathematician can sort of understand the thrust of his
> ideas.
>
> Peters references Hurst's paper (Hurst numbers) which was published in the
> Transactions of the American Society of Civil Engineers around 1942. I
> looked up his paper and I suspect that Hurst must have been as much of a
> statistician as he was a hydraulic engineer. Considering the state of the
> art of statistics back in the 1930's, Hurst's paper is most impressive.
>
> Some time ago I tried to use Metastock Fourier analysis. The results were
> poor as the dominant cycle was always close to the time interval of the
> displayed data.
> Lionel Issen
> lissen@xxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Haferman" <haferman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 4:10 PM
> Subject: Re: cycles
>
>
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> > I've never tried using the Metastock Fourier stuff on an
> > exploration, like you I've just done charting with it. I'm
> > involved with refining my own systems, so I have not devoted
> > anytime to this.
> >
> > As for the fractal approach, Edgar Peters books are very good
> > at explaining the underlying ideas (but the books are not
> > for the mathematically faint-of-heart). The *basic* idea is
> > that market prices are cyclical, but non-periodic. A practical
> > example from nature of a non-periodic cycle is the sunspot
> > cycle... see for example
> > http://www.sunspotcycle.com
> > http://science.nasa.gov/ssl/pad/solar/predict.htm
> > or especially the plot at
> > http://www.sunspotcycle.com/images/zurich.gif
> >
> > Anyway, Peters describes how to use "rescaled range" analysis
> > (also called "R/S" analyses) to determine cycle lengths for
> > the sunspot cycle, and then moves on to the stock market.
> >
> > I can go into more detail, but the bottom line (as far as
> > I'm concerned) is that while Peter's books are extremely
> > fascinating, there is nothing in them that will help people
> > put together a practical trading system unless you are
> > extremely creative. That being said, there is a website
> > devoted to Edgar Peters at
> > http://oara.org/mpc/fma
> >
> > Some programs that implement some details of "R/S" analysis
> > have been put together by John Conover and are available at
> > http://www.johncon.com/ntropix
> >
> > I've been using the programs at the above site for the last
> > couple of years, and while I have a much better understanding
> > of the theory of fractal "behavior" of markets, I have come
> > to believe that as a practical matter, T/A concepts such
> > as support and resistance, momentum, and price/volume
> > relationships are easier to understand and implement, and
> > can also produce profits.
> >
> > Sorry for the long-winded reply.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > Dave Nadeau wrote:
> > >Jeff,
> > >
> > >I'm a big fan of Fourier Analysis, as I've used it in other
> > >work. But I have been unsuccessful in getting it to work
> > >in anything other than a MetaStock chart. In an
> > >exploration, any variations I've tried or number of bars
> > >loaded has produced a result of N/A. I'm wondering if you
> > >have any ideas or have had any success working around this.
> > >
> > >Can you elaborate on the fractal approach? It sounds like
> > >an interesting piece of work. I will look up the book as
> > >well.
> > >
>
>
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:04:18 -0800
From: "Glen Wallace" <gcwallace@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: OT viruses and Outlook 5.5
Neo:
Disabling scripting (Start | Settings | Control Panel | Internet Options |
Security tab, select "Internet" zone icon, select "Custom Level" button) does
not affect the function of Internet Explorer, per se, but it could cause web
pages that are heavily dependant on scripting for special effects to not load
properly. Usually, it's not a problem though. I assign certain websites
(like banking and brokers) to the "Trusted Sites" zone, which I have
configured with much more permissive security settings.
I'm not familiar with Outlook 2000, but I expect the security settings are
similar to Outlook Express. OE looks to the "Internet" zone settings for its
security configuration, including how to handle scripts in HTML e-mail. You
have the option to change the zone from "Internet" to "Restricted", which uses
stricter security settings. In OE (and hopefully similarly in Outlook), go to
Tools | Options and select the Security tab. The "Security Zones" section is
where you can choose the appropriate zone. If you switch to the "Restricted"
zone, that's not enough because some of its standard settings are insecure.
You will have to go back to the Control Panel's Internet Options and disable
several of the Restricted zone's permissive settings for better protection.
If you're looking for more information on Java scripts and ActiveX, refer to
Questions 62 through 65 of the security faq at
http://www.w3.org/Security/Faq/#contents
Regards.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "neo" <neo1@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 3:45 PM
Subject: RE: OT viruses and Outlook 5.5
> Glen
>
> I looked at the security site but I am not familiar with Java, scripting,
> and activeX to understand what is being said. As each item is disabled, how
> will this affect the function of IE? Also, how are the security settings in
> Outlook 2000 set differently from IE?
>
> neo
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Glen Wallace
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 2:24 PM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: OT viruses and Outlook 5.5
>
> Brian:
>
> There have been several weaknesses identified and patches released over the
> years relating to malicious ActiveX and Java scripts. You should run Start
> | Settings | Windows Update regularly to ensure you have all of Microsoft's
> security patches installed.
>
> Personally, I have all ActiveX and Java scripting disabled for Outlook
> Express, and I have Internet Explorer set to confirm scripting. I decline
> to accept scripts from sites I do not inherently trust. Disabling it will
> sometimes result in web pages not creating properly or, in some cases, at
> all. If you trust the site and really want the information, you can just
> refresh the web page and accept the ActiveX script. Kind of a pain,
> but what's a guy to do.
>
> If you're interested in learning more, Georgi Guninski's site can be found
> at http://www.guninski.com/
>
> Regards.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Haviland" <BHaviland@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 9:14 AM
> Subject: OT viruses and Outlook 5.5
>
> > Article about a weakness in 5.5 that might allow someone to take over your
> > computer from the outside! Yikes! (8^o)
> > http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-3786758.html?tag=st.ne.1002.bgif.ni
> > Question for the cognoscenti: should one disable all the "ActiveX" options
> > as well as active scripting further down on the list. In what way might
> > disabling these things cause problems? Would I get a message saying a
> > given download or whatever needed to have one of these functions so that
> > I could turn it on temporarily?
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:42:16 -0600
From: "jhmtn" <jhmtn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: cycles
Hi all,
Whenever I've run the Metastock Fourier analysis indicator I've always
wondered why it only seemed to find 3 cycles with the predominant one
seeming to be close to the number of bars loaded into the display. What
interested me more was the fact that of the three cycles found, 1 of them
will always be (or at least in the small sample of issues I've checked) a
half or quarter multiple of the length of the predominant cycle or off from
the multiple by no more than the multiple count minus one which I
interpreted as rounding error.
Not being the most mathematically advanced kid on the block, I would use
that cycle length (usually between 40 and 80 days) in the MESA cycle
indicator as it's length.
I found poor market timing doing this, but the flattenning of the MESA
indicator set to the Fourier multiple cycle length is one of the indicators
I use to determine that the market is trending as a confirmation.
Enjoy! ....... John
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Vitaly Larichev" <vitaly-l@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: cycles
> Lionel,
>
> > Some time ago I tried to use Metastock Fourier analysis. The results
were
> > poor as the dominant cycle was always close to the time interval of the
> > displayed data.
>
> This is my perception as well of what Metastock Fourier analysis can do.
To
> be fair, I should add that the sensitivity to the time interval is
actually
> inherent in Fourier analysis, whether it's financial series or anything
> else, by Metastock or some university.
>
> Without elaborating much, I think an analogy with simple averaging versus
> EMA is very much appropriate here: SMA is sensitive to what happens at the
> far end of the time interval. This is why one tends to choose EMA when
> dealing with long time intervals. So what we would need here instead is a
> sort of "exponentially modulated" Fourier analysis. I don't know what it
> really can be :-) .
>
> Cheers, Vitaly
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday December 13 2000 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: cycles
>
>
> > When Peters books were reviewed after they came out, the main criticism,
> by
> > the reviewers, was that they are mathematically demanding and they do
not
> > provide a trading method. Peters' books are interesting and he has
enough
> > text so that a non-mathematician can sort of understand the thrust of
his
> > ideas.
> >
> > Peters references Hurst's paper (Hurst numbers) which was published in
the
> > Transactions of the American Society of Civil Engineers around 1942. I
> > looked up his paper and I suspect that Hurst must have been as much of a
> > statistician as he was a hydraulic engineer. Considering the state of
the
> > art of statistics back in the 1930's, Hurst's paper is most impressive.
> >
> > Some time ago I tried to use Metastock Fourier analysis. The results
were
> > poor as the dominant cycle was always close to the time interval of the
> > displayed data.
> > Lionel Issen
> > lissen@xxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Haferman" <haferman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 4:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: cycles
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Dave,
> > > I've never tried using the Metastock Fourier stuff on an
> > > exploration, like you I've just done charting with it. I'm
> > > involved with refining my own systems, so I have not devoted
> > > anytime to this.
> > >
> > > As for the fractal approach, Edgar Peters books are very good
> > > at explaining the underlying ideas (but the books are not
> > > for the mathematically faint-of-heart). The *basic* idea is
> > > that market prices are cyclical, but non-periodic. A practical
> > > example from nature of a non-periodic cycle is the sunspot
> > > cycle... see for example
> > > http://www.sunspotcycle.com
> > > http://science.nasa.gov/ssl/pad/solar/predict.htm
> > > or especially the plot at
> > > http://www.sunspotcycle.com/images/zurich.gif
> > >
> > > Anyway, Peters describes how to use "rescaled range" analysis
> > > (also called "R/S" analyses) to determine cycle lengths for
> > > the sunspot cycle, and then moves on to the stock market.
> > >
> > > I can go into more detail, but the bottom line (as far as
> > > I'm concerned) is that while Peter's books are extremely
> > > fascinating, there is nothing in them that will help people
> > > put together a practical trading system unless you are
> > > extremely creative. That being said, there is a website
> > > devoted to Edgar Peters at
> > > http://oara.org/mpc/fma
> > >
> > > Some programs that implement some details of "R/S" analysis
> > > have been put together by John Conover and are available at
> > > http://www.johncon.com/ntropix
> > >
> > > I've been using the programs at the above site for the last
> > > couple of years, and while I have a much better understanding
> > > of the theory of fractal "behavior" of markets, I have come
> > > to believe that as a practical matter, T/A concepts such
> > > as support and resistance, momentum, and price/volume
> > > relationships are easier to understand and implement, and
> > > can also produce profits.
> > >
> > > Sorry for the long-winded reply.
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Nadeau wrote:
> > > >Jeff,
> > > >
> > > >I'm a big fan of Fourier Analysis, as I've used it in other
> > > >work. But I have been unsuccessful in getting it to work
> > > >in anything other than a MetaStock chart. In an
> > > >exploration, any variations I've tried or number of bars
> > > >loaded has produced a result of N/A. I'm wondering if you
> > > >have any ideas or have had any success working around this.
> > > >
> > > >Can you elaborate on the fractal approach? It sounds like
> > > >an interesting piece of work. I will look up the book as
> > > >well.
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:45:07 -0600
From: "Sean Taylor" <sean.taylor@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Short Term High's/Low's
Hi,
Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I might code an expert to
identify short term high's and low's.
This is using the simple premise that inside days are ignored. i.e.
previous non-inside day H is lower than current H which is higher than the
next non-inside day H (for High's - reverse for Lows).
At a guess, I need to use PREV to count the number of past consecutive
inside() days to get to the previous valid bar. Not sure how to identify
the next valid bar or how to hang the lot together.
Perhaps I'm completely wrong in my approach and there is a simple route.
Thanks,
Sean
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:13:26 -0500
From: "TraderJoe" <ta-trader@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
It sepends on the first date calculated.
Change the Explorer options to load the same amount of periods that you are loading into the chart (Open | Options | Load options)
Then you should get the same results.
- ---
Joe
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:54:30
Steve Brann wrote:
>Good day.
>
>When I chart RSI(9) I get a certain value, as displayed by the data window,
>per security per date. When I put RSI(9) into an exploration I get a
>different value for that same security on the same day. Is this a known
>problem and are there any work arounds? Aslo, which one is correct?
>
>Regards
>
>Steve
>
>
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:20:14 -0800
From: "David DeFina" <ddefina@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Short Term High's/Low's
Using the HHV function you could code hhv(h,7) which would give you the
highest high for the last 7 days, including today, or ref(hhv(h,7),-1) for
the highest high excluding today. And likewise the LLV function for lowest
low. I don't know if this is what you're trying to accomplish, but this is
a good formula for identifying support/resistance points and for determining
stop placement.
Dave D.
ddefina@xxxxxxxxxxxx
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Sean Taylor
Sent: Dec 13, 2000 1:45 PM
To: Metastock List
Subject: Short Term High's/Low's
Hi,
Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I might code an expert to
identify short term high's and low's.
This is using the simple premise that inside days are ignored. i.e.
previous non-inside day H is lower than current H which is higher than the
next non-inside day H (for High's - reverse for Lows).
At a guess, I need to use PREV to count the number of past consecutive
inside() days to get to the previous valid bar. Not sure how to identify
the next valid bar or how to hang the lot together.
Perhaps I'm completely wrong in my approach and there is a simple route.
Thanks,
Sean
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:56:30 -0000
From: "Steve Brann" <steveb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
Tried that Joe and it makes no difference. I loaded all available prices
data (around 1000 days worth) in the chart and all data into the exploration
and still they are different to the same degree as before. The macd is
exactly the same in the exploration as on the chart but the RSI is
significantly different.
Any other suggestions? I have contacted Equis support on this, so if this
is of interest to list members I will post their reply here.
Regards
Steve
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of TraderJoe
> Sent: 13 December 2000 23:13
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
>
>
> It sepends on the first date calculated.
> Change the Explorer options to load the same amount of
> periods that you are loading into the chart (Open | Options |
> Load options)
> Then you should get the same results.
> ---
> Joe
>
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:54:30
> Steve Brann wrote:
> >Good day.
> >
> >When I chart RSI(9) I get a certain value, as displayed by
> the data window,
> >per security per date. When I put RSI(9) into an exploration I get a
> >different value for that same security on the same day. Is
> this a known
> >problem and are there any work arounds? Aslo, which one is correct?
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >
>
>
> Get FREE Email/Voicemail with 15MB at Lycos Communications at
http://comm.lycos.com
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:03:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Allan Havemose <havemose@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Short Term High's/Low's
Sean,
I have two simple techniques that work well for me. Examples given for
a low
1. a ShortTerm low is a low that is lower than a certain number of lows
on both sides. Note that this implies "looking into the future" or
better stated, that you'll indentify the ST low a few bars after the
fact
2. a ShortTerm low has been put in when the price closes a certain
number of percent above the low. Using Stoch() actually is a pretty
close approximation to this.
I know of no technique to determine in real-time that the current bar
is going to be a short term low.
Hope this helps !
Allan
- --- Sean Taylor <sean.taylor@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I might code an expert to
> identify short term high's and low's.
> This is using the simple premise that inside days are ignored. i.e.
> previous non-inside day H is lower than current H which is higher
> than the
> next non-inside day H (for High's - reverse for Lows).
>
> At a guess, I need to use PREV to count the number of past
> consecutive
> inside() days to get to the previous valid bar. Not sure how to
> identify
> the next valid bar or how to hang the lot together.
>
> Perhaps I'm completely wrong in my approach and there is a simple
> route.
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
>
>
=====
- ---
Allan Havemose, Ph.D.
havemose@xxxxxxxxxx
havemose@xxxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:55:20 -0500
From: "TraderJoe" <ta-trader@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
MetaStock's RSI uses Wilders smoothing (EMA). If the periods loaded are the same then the values should be as well. Do you have the Retain scale option checked in the chart? This bypasses the load options, so it may be loading a different amount of periods than is set in the load options. Try opening the security with a clean template and plotting an RSI(9). The clean template does not have retain scale set. You can also count how many bars are in the chart by plotting the following formula Cum(1)
- ---
Joe
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:56:30
Steve Brann wrote:
>Tried that Joe and it makes no difference. I loaded all available prices
>data (around 1000 days worth) in the chart and all data into the exploration
>and still they are different to the same degree as before. The macd is
>exactly the same in the exploration as on the chart but the RSI is
>significantly different.
>
>Any other suggestions? I have contacted Equis support on this, so if this
>is of interest to list members I will post their reply here.
>
>Regards
>
>Steve
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of TraderJoe
>> Sent: 13 December 2000 23:13
>> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
>>
>>
>> It sepends on the first date calculated.
>> Change the Explorer options to load the same amount of
>> periods that you are loading into the chart (Open | Options |
>> Load options)
>> Then you should get the same results.
>> ---
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:54:30
>> Steve Brann wrote:
>> >Good day.
>> >
>> >When I chart RSI(9) I get a certain value, as displayed by
>> the data window,
>> >per security per date. When I put RSI(9) into an exploration I get a
>> >different value for that same security on the same day. Is
>> this a known
>> >problem and are there any work arounds? Aslo, which one is correct?
>> >
>> >Regards
>> >
>> >Steve
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> Get FREE Email/Voicemail with 15MB at Lycos Communications at
>http://comm.lycos.com
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:30:29 -0600
From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
Please do post any new information on this discrepancy.
Lionel Issen
lissen@xxxxxxxxx
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Brann" <steveb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 5:56 AM
Subject: RE: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
> Tried that Joe and it makes no difference. I loaded all available prices
> data (around 1000 days worth) in the chart and all data into the
exploration
> and still they are different to the same degree as before. The macd is
> exactly the same in the exploration as on the chart but the RSI is
> significantly different.
>
> Any other suggestions? I have contacted Equis support on this, so if this
> is of interest to list members I will post their reply here.
>
> Regards
>
> Steve
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of TraderJoe
> > Sent: 13 December 2000 23:13
> > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
> >
> >
> > It sepends on the first date calculated.
> > Change the Explorer options to load the same amount of
> > periods that you are loading into the chart (Open | Options |
> > Load options)
> > Then you should get the same results.
> > ---
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:54:30
> > Steve Brann wrote:
> > >Good day.
> > >
> > >When I chart RSI(9) I get a certain value, as displayed by
> > the data window,
> > >per security per date. When I put RSI(9) into an exploration I get a
> > >different value for that same security on the same day. Is
> > this a known
> > >problem and are there any work arounds? Aslo, which one is correct?
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >
> > >Steve
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Get FREE Email/Voicemail with 15MB at Lycos Communications at
> http://comm.lycos.com
>
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:26:18 -0000
From: "Steve Brann" <steveb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
Thanks for your efforts in helping me Joe. However, when I manually change
the chart loaded periods (from 1000 to 50) the RSI(9) does change but only
by 0.0020 - or thereabouts). The differences I am experiencing with the
explorer are around 5.0000 which is important when I check for level breaks
by the RSI. I have unchecked retain scale and tried a clean template to no
avail. I am at a complete loss. I did try using the custom formula on the
Equis site but it is too jerky and subject to divisions by zero's.
Regards
Steve
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of TraderJoe
> Sent: 14 December 2000 15:55
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
>
>
> MetaStock's RSI uses Wilders smoothing (EMA). If the periods
> loaded are the same then the values should be as well. Do you
> have the Retain scale option checked in the chart? This
> bypasses the load options, so it may be loading a different
> amount of periods than is set in the load options. Try
> opening the security with a clean template and plotting an
> RSI(9). The clean template does not have retain scale set.
> You can also count how many bars are in the chart by plotting
> the following formula Cum(1)
>
>
> ---
> Joe
>
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:56:30
> Steve Brann wrote:
> >Tried that Joe and it makes no difference. I loaded all
> available prices
> >data (around 1000 days worth) in the chart and all data into
> the exploration
> >and still they are different to the same degree as before.
> The macd is
> >exactly the same in the exploration as on the chart but the RSI is
> >significantly different.
> >
> >Any other suggestions? I have contacted Equis support on
> this, so if this
> >is of interest to list members I will post their reply here.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of TraderJoe
> >> Sent: 13 December 2000 23:13
> >> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
> >>
> >>
> >> It sepends on the first date calculated.
> >> Change the Explorer options to load the same amount of
> >> periods that you are loading into the chart (Open | Options |
> >> Load options)
> >> Then you should get the same results.
> >> ---
> >> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:54:30
> >> Steve Brann wrote:
> >> >Good day.
> >> >
> >> >When I chart RSI(9) I get a certain value, as displayed by
> >> the data window,
> >> >per security per date. When I put RSI(9) into an
> exploration I get a
> >> >different value for that same security on the same day. Is
> >> this a known
> >> >problem and are there any work arounds? Aslo, which one
> is correct?
> >> >
> >> >Regards
> >> >
> >> >Steve
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Get FREE Email/Voicemail with 15MB at Lycos Communications at
> >http://comm.lycos.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:45:28 -0500
From: wdjd <wdjd@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
Lionel Issen wrote:
> Please do post any new information on this discrepancy.
Why not?
If there is a problem with MS results, I would think MS users would like to know
about it!
Wm
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:30:06 -0800
From: Lyle Cox <lgpcox@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: MSK Pro 7.02 eSinal -Periodicity
Hi
When I open a 1 min. and 5 min. charts and I want to mininmise resources
use, is best to:
1-Open the charts with the 1 and 5 min. periodicity?
2-Open the both charts with the 1 min.periodicity and change the X-Axis
Properties Periodicity to 5 min.?
Or does it not make any difference?
Thanks
Lyle Cox
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:45:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Dave Nadeau <dave_nadeau@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
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Steve,
Maybe we can help by trying to replicate the problem. Can you paste in the exact text that's in your column of the exploration that is giving a different result? I'll try it in an exploration, as a custom indicator on a chart, and also alongside the RSI(9) on a chart. Even the symbol that you are specifically seeing this on would help (or one of the symbols, if there are many.)
Dave Nadeau
Fort Collins, CO
Steve Brann <steveb@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks for your efforts in helping me Joe. However, when I manually change
the chart loaded periods (from 1000 to 50) the RSI(9) does change but only
by 0.0020 - or thereabouts). The differences I am experiencing with the
explorer are around 5.0000 which is important when I check for level breaks
by the RSI. I have unchecked retain scale and tried a clean template to no
avail. I am at a complete loss. I did try using the custom formula on the
Equis site but it is too jerky and subject to divisions by zero's.
Regards
Steve
- ---------------------------------
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<P> <FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Steve,</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Maybe we can help by trying to replicate the problem. Can you paste in the exact text that's in your column of the exploration that is giving a different result? I'll try it in an exploration, as a custom indicator on a chart, and also alongside the RSI(9) on a chart. Even the symbol that you are specifically seeing this on would help (or one of the symbols, if there are many.)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Dave Nadeau</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Fort Collins, CO<BR></FONT></P>
<P> <B><I>Steve Brann <steveb@xxxxxxxxxxx></I></B> wrote: <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
<P>Thanks for your efforts in helping me Joe. However, when I manually change<BR>the chart loaded periods (from 1000 to 50) the RSI(9) does change but only<BR>by 0.0020 - or thereabouts). The differences I am experiencing with the<BR>explorer are around 5.0000 which is important when I check for level breaks<BR>by the RSI. I have unchecked retain scale and tried a clean template to no<BR>avail. I am at a complete loss. I did try using the custom formula on the<BR>Equis site but it is too jerky and subject to divisions by zero's.<BR><BR>Regards<BR>Steve<BR><BR><BR></P></BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:53:09 -0500
From: "neo" <neo1@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
>>>Please do post any new information on this discrepancy.<<<
Why?
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From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lionel Issen
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 11:30 AM
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
Please do post any new information on this discrepancy.
Lionel Issen
lissen@xxxxxxxxx
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From: "Steve Brann" <steveb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 5:56 AM
Subject: RE: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
> Tried that Joe and it makes no difference. I loaded all available prices
> data (around 1000 days worth) in the chart and all data into the
exploration
> and still they are different to the same degree as before. The macd is
> exactly the same in the exploration as on the chart but the RSI is
> significantly different.
>
> Any other suggestions? I have contacted Equis support on this, so if this
> is of interest to list members I will post their reply here.
>
> Regards
>
> Steve
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of TraderJoe
> > Sent: 13 December 2000 23:13
> > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
> >
> >
> > It sepends on the first date calculated.
> > Change the Explorer options to load the same amount of
> > periods that you are loading into the chart (Open | Options |
> > Load options)
> > Then you should get the same results.
> > ---
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:54:30
> > Steve Brann wrote:
> > >Good day.
> > >
> > >When I chart RSI(9) I get a certain value, as displayed by
> > the data window,
> > >per security per date. When I put RSI(9) into an exploration I get a
> > >different value for that same security on the same day. Is
> > this a known
> > >problem and are there any work arounds? Aslo, which one is correct?
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >
> > >Steve
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Get FREE Email/Voicemail with 15MB at Lycos Communications at
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>
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:37:30 -0800
From: Lyle Cox <lgpcox@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: MSK pro 7.02
To whom it may concern:
Hi
I am always complaining about MSK, but its time to give credit.
Version 7.02 handling of a window on dual monitors is SUPERB.
Lyle
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:46:04 -0500
From: wdjd <wdjd@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
Lionel
My apologies. I agree with you completely. That note was meant to be in response to
Steve's "... so if this
is of interest to list members I will post their reply here."
Wm
wdjd wrote:
> Lionel Issen wrote:
>
> > Please do post any new information on this discrepancy.
>
> Why not?
> If there is a problem with MS results, I would think MS users would like to know
> about it!
>
> Wm
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:04:10 -0700
From: Lynn Dufrenne <ldufrenne@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: MSK Pro 7.02 eSinal -Periodicity
It really does not make any difference.
Thanks,
Lynn
- -----Original Message-----
From: Lyle Cox [mailto:lgpcox@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:30 PM
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: MSK Pro 7.02 eSinal -Periodicity
Hi
When I open a 1 min. and 5 min. charts and I want to mininmise resources
use, is best to:
1-Open the charts with the 1 and 5 min. periodicity?
2-Open the both charts with the 1 min.periodicity and change the X-Axis
Properties Periodicity to 5 min.?
Or does it not make any difference?
Thanks
Lyle Cox
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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:21:53 -0600
From: "jhmtn" <jhmtn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: RSI chart value is different to RSI when explored.
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Wm,
I made the same mistake when I first read the post, but there is no =
"not" in it!
Enjoy! ............. John
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