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Sherm 
spoke to our group in July, Bud.
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As I 
recall he prefers the pared NYSE list [minus preferreds ADRs and closed end 
fund?].
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size=2>Barron's has it weekly and the daily is posted somewhere on the NYSE 
site.
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<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
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  owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On 
  Behalf Of Songyun FoxSent: Friday, October 13, 2000 2:47 
  AMTo: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: McClellan 
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  color=#cc0000>Hi.<FONT 
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  Stock Chart.com 
  is a very good site to visit daily, I think.<FONT 
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  But,  I 
  did have just one problem with it. In the case of the NYSE Mc Clellan 
  Oscillator, They did not post.  The date, not that days value, or last 
  post for MCO.  I thought that was important.<FONT 
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  Because your 
  want to be comparing it exactly to the NYSE Index, or DJIA for 
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  So I went to 
  Wallace Lake (?) and he offered the data I needed to USE the metastock 
  software formula's to effectively display the data.  ALSO, important is 
  your data source.  I use Yahoo, figures.<FONT 
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  So, I just used 
  whatever was already in the MS software.<FONT 
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  I'am happy to 
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  color=#cc0000>Bud 
  "A.J. Maas" wrote: 
  Most likely you'll remember good old "McClellan 
    Chip", eg former List-member Chip Anderson and his site : StockChart.com 
    http://stockcharts.com/ 
    Regards, Ton Maas ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Dismiss the 
    ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying. Homepage  <A 
    href="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas 
    ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "Daniel Martinez" Aan: 
    <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Songyun Fox" <songyun@xxxxxxx> 
    Verzonden: donderdag 12 oktober 2000 19:30 Onderwerp: McClellan 
    Oscillator 
    > Bud, > do you use MetaStock to get the McClellan Oscillator 
    or do you get > your figures from the 'Net?  If you get them 
    from the 'Net, please > send me the URL.  I need to compare my 
    figures. > > Daniel. > > > Songyun Fox 
    wrote: > > > Hi Guy. > > > > I think it 
    was a good call on the Nasdaq. > > > > Nasdaq Mc Clellan 
    Oscillator got down to -243 10/11. Given > > Oversold is -200 it 
    is very likely your trades are well > > positioned for a profit 
    return. I might be early > > But I think it was a good call. 
    > > > > Bud Fox > > > > Guy Tann 
    wrote: > > > >> Neo, > >> > 
    >> I'm not trying to be cryptic, but these are indicators that we 
    > >> have > >> developed over the last 40 years or 
    so.  Prior experience (take > >> Williams and > 
    >> how he made $1mm trading the silver market) shows us that once 
    > >> these are > >> made public, they cease to 
    work, either from too many people > >> trading them or > 
    >> from bigger traders triggering false signals.  My dad is 
    adamant > >> in keeping > >> this proprietary. 
    > >> > >> What I can tell you is we use strictly 
    the O, H, L, and Close.  We > >> feel that > 
    >> all information is accounted for in the daily price activity.  
    We > >> don't use > >> any of the prepackaged 
    indicators and have written all of our > >> own.  The only 
    > >> features of MS that we use are moving averages (of our 
    indicators) > >> and > >> regular addition, 
    subtraction, multiplication and division.  Our > >> basic 
    > >> system (SP39) is comprised of 6 different signals, to 
    which we > >> have applied > >> weights.  Our 
    final SP39 signal is the arithmetic total of these 6 > >> 
    weighted > >> signals and can vary from between -10 and 
    +10.  Our signals are > >> all > >> 
    mathematical and we don't do any charting, except occasionally. > 
    >> > >> Our signals are probability based.  By that 
    I mean, we "know" (if > >> we really > >> can ever 
    know anything) that, on average, we will make money on 3 > >> 
    out of > >> every 4 trades.  We have been able to maintain 
    that probability of > >> success > >> for over 15 
    years now.  As I've stated publicly on this list, we > >> 
    would make > >> a ton of money and then lose it all.  This 
    was not a system > >> problem, but a > >> problem 
    with the traders (my brother and myself) getting greedy > >> 
    and > >> reinvesting too much money and, as we discovered, 
    running a 100% > >> Risk of > >> Ruin.  We 
    proved that several times over the years.  Beginning > >> 
    last year or > >> so, we started applying sound (at least we 
    thought they were > >> sound) money > >> 
    management techniques and have managed to weather a couple of > 
    >> major losses > >> (including our current open trade). 
    > >> > >> I've tried to encourage everyone to work 
    on developing his or her > >> own > >> trading 
    system as we believe that anything you can buy is not > >> 
    worth what you > >> pay for it.  We also encourage 
    everyone to paper trade for a while > >> before > 
    >> risking real money, and finally we recommend that you start this 
    > >> development > >> manually, just so you don't 
    fall into the optimization trap, where > >> you > 
    >> develop your system using 100% hindsight. > >> 
    > >> Regards, > >> > >> Guy > 
    > > >