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I fully agree with Lonnie.
If you owned a golden goose, why would you give it away?
Lionel Issen
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lonnie Lepp" <tllepp@xxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 12:56 AM
Subject: RE: New Buy


> Why should Guy lay out on a silver platter his personal way of harvesting
$
> from the markets
> I have learned that  one must shift thru a lot of dirt to find flecks of
> gold
> Read, listen, learn, try fail, adapt, succeed.
> Guy You have helped me a lot by posting your thoughts as have many others
> I appreciate what ever mentorship I can get
>
> Lonnie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Malcolm Walsh
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 6:30 PM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: New Buy
>
>
> Guy;
> Really. How can you use so many words to say exactly nothing.
>
> If you have a good system and want to share then do so.
>
> I know from you previous posts that you are well meaning but
> in this market, where most have lost more than they have gained,
> your grandeur is not really what I want to hear unless you can
> share your holy grail with all of us.
>
> Malcolm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Guy Tann
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 6:44 PM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: New Buy
>
>
> Neo,
>
> I'm not trying to be cryptic, but these are indicators that we have
> developed over the last 40 years or so.  Prior experience (take Williams
and
> how he made $1mm trading the silver market) shows us that once these are
> made public, they cease to work, either from too many people trading them
or
> from bigger traders triggering false signals.  My dad is adamant in
keeping
> this proprietary.
>
> What I can tell you is we use strictly the O, H, L, and Close.  We feel
that
> all information is accounted for in the daily price activity.  We don't
use
> any of the prepackaged indicators and have written all of our own.  The
only
> features of MS that we use are moving averages (of our indicators) and
> regular addition, subtraction, multiplication and division.  Our basic
> system (SP39) is comprised of 6 different signals, to which we have
applied
> weights.  Our final SP39 signal is the arithmetic total of these 6
weighted
> signals and can vary from between -10 and +10.  Our signals are all
> mathematical and we don't do any charting, except occasionally.
>
> Our signals are probability based.  By that I mean, we "know" (if we
really
> can ever know anything) that, on average, we will make money on 3 out of
> every 4 trades.  We have been able to maintain that probability of success
> for over 15 years now.  As I've stated publicly on this list, we would
make
> a ton of money and then lose it all.  This was not a system problem, but a
> problem with the traders (my brother and myself) getting greedy and
> reinvesting too much money and, as we discovered, running a 100% Risk of
> Ruin.  We proved that several times over the years.  Beginning last year
or
> so, we started applying sound (at least we thought they were sound) money
> management techniques and have managed to weather a couple of major losses
> (including our current open trade).
>
> I've tried to encourage everyone to work on developing his or her own
> trading system as we believe that anything you can buy is not worth what
you
> pay for it.  We also encourage everyone to paper trade for a while before
> risking real money, and finally we recommend that you start this
development
> manually, just so you don't fall into the optimization trap, where you
> develop your system using 100% hindsight.
>
> Regards,
>
> Guy
>
> Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be
> changed regularly and for the same reason.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of neo
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 12:09 PM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: New Buy
>
> Guy
>
> Would you mind sharing the formulas and system?
>
> neo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Guy Tann
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 11:58 AM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: New Buy
>
>
> Leo,
>
> H700 is one of our Intermediate Term Signals (ITS).  Our system is
comprised
> of two parts.  The first half being a short term signal (which we call
SP39
> which simply stands for the 39th indicator in MS) and the other half being
> comprised of 4 ITS (H700, HSIG, H66R and HGGG and don't ask me how our dad
> comes up with some of these names).  :)  All of these ITS indicators
> (signals) run in DOS as I haven't been able to convert them into MS yet.
>
> Guy
>
> Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be
> changed regularly and for the same reason.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of leo.timmermans.lt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:40 AM
> To: - *metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: New Buy
>
> Hello,
>
> What is this H700 ???
>
> Kind regards
> Leo
>