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CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHY I RECEIVE SUCH A MESS OF AN EMAIL FROM YOU. MOST
OF WHICH I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
THANKS,
TYLER HUNT
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From: owner-metastock-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:51 AM
To: metastock-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: metastock-digest V1 #1154
metastock-digest Tuesday, October 10 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1154
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From: "Norman Wiss Jr." <cutup2@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Online Investors Advantage2
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thanks
Norm Wiss
cutup2@xxxxxxxx
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From: Norman Wiss Jr.=20
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: Online Investors Advantage2
Bud I didn't receive a confirmation as a subscriber to your "IDEA" =
list. Please confirm as you've done with others. Thanks for the invite.
Norm Wiss
cutup2@xxxxxxxx
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Songyun Fox=20
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: Online Investors Advantage2
Hi.=20
Going to re-send Sunday evening email=20
Your on the list.=20
Bud=20
Rick Lampkin wrote:=20
Sounds good. Please put me on your e-mail list.=20
----- Original Message -----
From: Songyun Fox
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: Online Investors Advantage2
Hi.=20
Another choice is to join my email list for stock/index ideas.=20
It's free, using Metastock and Bressert cycles.=20
Bud Fox=20
Brian/Louise Garnant wrote:=20
Forgot to note in last post: I also have Omnitrader. I think I =
was looking for a system that was always right, and there ain't no such =
thing, much to my dismay (ha!). Omnitrader's biggest feature for me is =
the daily commentary by the founder, whose calls on the indexes are very =
often quite good. As a system, quite good. But again, I could not follow =
that "system" to the letter, and that system encouraged you to use other =
TA methods, along with Omnitrader. It has a build in "System Tester" =
which Metastock should copy (of course, and pay the royalties). If you =
like Elliott Wave try Robert Miner's book Dynamic Trader, for about $100 =
you actually can see quantitatively how to apply fibonacci and wave =
counts. I am using the software that Miner also has, and follow the =
daily Future's Reports that are a part of the Dynamic Trader system. =
Incidentally, Dynamic Trader software seems to have build in some of the =
"settings" that Bill Williams uses. I get the Williams' buy and sell =
signals very easily using Dynamic Trader. If you like Elliot Wave read =
the several Pretcher books (But skip On the Crest of the Tidal Wave =
unless you want to be bummed out. Of course, if you like to go short, =
then it won't be so bad.) If you know something of Elliot Wave read his =
last book integrating Socionomics into life and the markets. Beautiful =
approach to the world.=20
----- Original Message -----
From: Lionel Issen
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: Online Investors Advantage
Larry:I haven't seen Online investors advantage.About a =
year or two ago there was a related discussion about Omnitrader. =
Omnitrader has about 1/2 dozen indicators that are used to evaluate a =
stock. the sock that has the most pluses is presumed to be the best buy. =
Several contributors pointed out that since the indicators did not fire =
simultaneously, the results of the selection would be sort of average. =
I'd like to add that Chande and Kroll in "The New Technical Trader" =
point out that all price-only indicators are highly correlated, hence it =
doesn't pay to use more than a few. I have noticed that I tend to =
react/respond better to some indicators better than others, even though =
they are giving the same signal, and that it is important that the =
indicator chart be eye catching, like thicker lines, different colored =
lines, and so on.Lionel Issen=20
lissen@xxxxxxxxx=20
----- Original Message -----
From: LPetersen
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:57 PM
Subject: Online Investors Advantage
Erich=20
Not related to MS, this company promises a 10 parameter =
stock scan engine, which includes both fundamental, and technical =
factors (including things like insider transactions). I saw their =
interesting slide show demonstration, at the Peter Lowe seminar, in =
Anaheim. Unfortunately, their web page is less revealing. I have =
ordered their brochure, and plan on attending their next seminar in San =
Diego.=20
Does anyone have any comments about=20
Online Investors Advantage?=20
Larry=20
http://www.i-advantage.com/=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
Erich Kohlhofer wrote:=20
Hi, where can I find trading systems? I am looking to =
develop or find=20
something better than I am using presently.=20
Erich
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dcutup2@xxxxxxxx href=3D"mailto:cutup2@xxxxxxxx";>Norman Wiss =
Jr.</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 09, 2000 =
10:26=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Online Investors=20
Advantage2</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bud I didn't receive a confirmation as =
a=20
subscriber to your "IDEA" list. Please confirm as you've done with =
others.=20
Thanks for the invite.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Norm Wiss<BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:cutup2@xxxxxxxx";>cutup2@xxxxxxxx</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dsongyun@xxxxxxx href=3D"mailto:songyun@xxxxxxx";>Songyun =
Fox</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dmetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 09, =
2000 5:27=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Online Investors =
Advantage2</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT color=3D#cc0000>Hi.</FONT> <BR><FONT =
color=3D#cc0000>Going=20
to re-send Sunday evening email</FONT> <BR><FONT =
color=3D#cc0000>Your on the=20
list.</FONT> <BR><FONT color=3D#cc0000>Bud</FONT>=20
<P>Rick Lampkin wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE"> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D-1>Sounds good.=20
Please put me on your e-mail list.</FONT></FONT>=20
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message =
- -----</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dsongyun@xxxxxxx =
href=3D"mailto:songyun@xxxxxxx";>Songyun=20
Fox</A></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dmetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
=
href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A></DIV>=
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 08, =
2000 4:52=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Online =
Investors=20
Advantage2</DIV> <B><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial Narrow Special G1">Hi.</FONT></B>=20
<P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow Special G1">Another choice is =
to join my=20
email list for stock/index ideas.</FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial Narrow Special G1">It's free, using Metastock and =
Bressert=20
cycles.</FONT></B>=20
<P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow Special G1">Bud Fox</FONT></B>=20
<P>Brian/Louise Garnant wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">
<STYLE></STYLE>
<FONT size=3D-1>Forgot to note in last post: I also have =
Omnitrader. I=20
think I was looking for a system that was always right, and =
there=20
ain't no such thing, much to my dismay (ha!). Omnitrader's =
biggest=20
feature for me is the daily commentary by the founder, whose =
calls on=20
the indexes are very often quite good. As a system, quite =
good. But=20
again, I could not follow that "system" to the letter, and =
that system=20
encouraged you to use other TA methods, along with Omnitrader. =
It has=20
a build in "System Tester" which Metastock should copy (of =
course, and=20
pay the royalties).</FONT> <FONT size=3D-1>If you like Elliott =
Wave try=20
Robert Miner's book Dynamic Trader, for about $100 you =
actually can=20
see quantitatively how to apply fibonacci and wave counts. I =
am using=20
the software that Miner also has, and follow the daily =
Future's=20
Reports that are a part of the Dynamic Trader system. =
Incidentally,=20
Dynamic Trader software seems to have build in some of the =
"settings"=20
that Bill Williams uses. I get the Williams' buy and sell =
signals very=20
easily using Dynamic Trader.</FONT> <FONT size=3D-1>If you =
like Elliot=20
Wave read the several Pretcher books (But skip On the Crest of =
the=20
Tidal Wave unless you want to be bummed out. Of course, if you =
like to=20
go short, then it won't be so bad.) If you know something of =
Elliot=20
Wave read his last book integrating Socionomics into life and =
the=20
markets. Beautiful approach to the world.</FONT>=20
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message =
- -----</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dlissen@xxxxxxxxx =
href=3D"mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxx";>Lionel=20
Issen</A></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dmetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
=
href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A></DIV>=
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, =
October 07,=20
2000 7:05 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Online =
Investors=20
Advantage</DIV> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D-1>Larry:I haven't=20
seen Online investors advantage.About a year or two ago =
there was a=20
related discussion about Omnitrader. Omnitrader has about =
1/2 dozen=20
indicators that are used to evaluate a stock. the sock that =
has the=20
most pluses is presumed to be the best buy.</FONT></FONT> =
<FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>Several contributors pointed =
out that since=20
the indicators did not fire simultaneously, the results of =
the=20
selection would be sort of average. I'd like to add that =
Chande and=20
Kroll in "The New Technical Trader" point out that all =
price-only=20
indicators are highly correlated, hence it doesn't pay to =
use more=20
than a few. I have noticed that I tend to react/respond =
better to=20
some indicators better than others, even though they are =
giving the=20
same signal, and that it is important that the indicator =
chart be=20
eye catching, like thicker lines, different colored lines, =
and so=20
on.</FONT></FONT>Lionel Issen <BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxx";>lissen@xxxxxxxxx</A>=20
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message =
- -----</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; =
font-color: black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3DLpetersen1@xxxxxxxx=20
href=3D"mailto:Lpetersen1@xxxxxxxx";>LPetersen</A></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dmetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
=
href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A></DIV>=
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, =
October 07,=20
2000 4:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Online =
Investors=20
Advantage</DIV> Erich <BR>Not related to MS, this =
company=20
promises a 10 parameter stock scan engine, which includes =
both=20
fundamental, and technical factors (including things like =
insider=20
transactions). I saw their interesting slide show=20
demonstration, at the Peter Lowe seminar, in =
Anaheim. =20
Unfortunately, their web page is less revealing. I =
have=20
ordered their brochure, and plan on attending their next =
seminar=20
in San Diego.=20
<P>Does anyone have any comments about <BR><B>Online =
Investors=20
Advantage</B>?=20
<P>Larry=20
<P><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.i-advantage.com/";>http://www.i-advantage.com/</A>=20
<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> =20
<P>Erich Kohlhofer wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">Hi, where can I find trading =
systems? I=20
am looking to develop or find <BR>something better than =
I am=20
using presently.=20
=
<P>Erich</P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQU=
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From: "eugenefongdere" <eugenefongdere@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Online Investors Advantage2
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Sir,
Can you kindly include me in your mailing list.Many thanks
Best regards,
gordon
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim <anncora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, October 09, 2000 4:08 AM
Subject: Re: Online Investors Advantage2
=20
=20
put me on too..thanks.....
=20
At 09:20 PM 10/8/00 -0700, you wrote:
=20
Sounds good. Please put me on your e-mail list.=20
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Songyun Fox=20
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: Online Investors Advantage2
=20
Hi.=20
=20
Another choice is to join my email list for stock/index =
ideas.=20
It's free, using Metastock and Bressert cycles.=20
=20
Bud Fox=20
=20
Brian/Louise Garnant wrote:=20
=20
Forgot to note in last post: I also have Omnitrader. I =
think I was looking for a system that was always right, and there ain't =
no such thing, much to my dismay (ha!). Omnitrader's biggest feature for =
me is the daily commentary by the founder, whose calls on the indexes =
are very often quite good. As a system, quite good. But again, I could =
not follow that "system" to the letter, and that system encouraged you =
to use other TA methods, along with Omnitrader. It has a build in =
"System Tester" which Metastock should copy (of course, and pay the =
royalties). If you like Elliott Wave try Robert Miner's book Dynamic =
Trader, for about $100 you actually can see quantitatively how to apply =
fibonacci and wave counts. I am using the software that Miner also has, =
and follow the daily Future's Reports that are a part of the Dynamic =
Trader system. Incidentally, Dynamic Trader software seems to have build =
in some of the "settings" that Bill Williams uses. I get the Williams' =
buy and sell signals very easily using Dynamic Trader. If you like =
Elliot Wave read the several Pretcher books (But skip On the Crest of =
the Tidal Wave unless you want to be bummed out. Of course, if you like =
to go short, then it won't be so bad.) If you know something of Elliot =
Wave read his last book integrating Socionomics into life and the =
markets. Beautiful approach to the world. =20
=20
----- Original Message -----
From: Lionel Issen
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: Online Investors Advantage
Larry:I haven't seen Online investors =
advantage.About a year or two ago there was a related discussion about =
Omnitrader. Omnitrader has about 1/2 dozen indicators that are used to =
evaluate a stock. the sock that has the most pluses is presumed to be =
the best buy. Several contributors pointed out that since the indicators =
did not fire simultaneously, the results of the selection would be sort =
of average. I'd like to add that Chande and Kroll in "The New Technical =
Trader" point out that all price-only indicators are highly correlated, =
hence it doesn't pay to use more than a few. I have noticed that I tend =
to react/respond better to some indicators better than others, even =
though they are giving the same signal, and that it is important that =
the indicator chart be eye catching, like thicker lines, different =
colored lines, and so on.Lionel Issen=20
lissen@xxxxxxxxx=20
=20
----- Original Message -----
From: LPetersen
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:57 PM
Subject: Online Investors Advantage
Erich=20
Not related to MS, this company promises a 10 =
parameter stock scan engine, which includes both fundamental, and =
technical factors (including things like insider transactions). I saw =
their interesting slide show demonstration, at the Peter Lowe seminar, =
in Anaheim. Unfortunately, their web page is less revealing. I have =
ordered their brochure, and plan on attending their next seminar in San =
Diego.=20
=20
Does anyone have any comments about=20
Online Investors Advantage?=20
=20
Larry=20
=20
http://www.i-advantage.com/=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
Erich Kohlhofer wrote:=20
=20
Hi, where can I find trading systems? I am =
looking to develop or find=20
something better than I am using presently.=20
=20
Erich
=20
Jim...
Atlanta, GA=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Sir,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>Can you kindly =
include me in=20
your mailing list.Many thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>gordon</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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5px">
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
</B>Jim <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:anncora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>anncora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>=
<B>To:=20
</B><A =
href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><B=
R><B>Date:=20
</B>Monday, October 09, 2000 4:08 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Online =
Investors=20
Advantage2<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT size=3D3>put me on=20
too..thanks.....<BR><BR>At 09:20 PM 10/8/00 -0700, you =
wrote:<BR></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite type =3D cite><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>Sounds =
good. Please=20
put me on your e-mail list. </FONT><FONT size=3D3><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite type =3D cite>----- Original Message -----=20
<BR><B>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:songyun@xxxxxxx";>Songyun =
Fox</A>=20
<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>=20
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 08, 2000 4:52 =
AM<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
Re: Online Investors Advantage2<BR><BR><B>Hi.</B> =
<BR><BR><B>Another=20
choice is to join my email list for stock/index ideas.</B>=20
<BR><B>It's free, using Metastock and Bressert cycles.</B>=20
<BR><BR><B>Bud Fox</B> <BR><BR>Brian/Louise Garnant wrote:=20
<BR></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite type =3D cite><FONT size=3D2>Forgot to note =
in last=20
post: I also have Omnitrader. I think I was looking for =
a system=20
that was always right, and there ain't no such thing, =
much to my=20
dismay (ha!). Omnitrader's biggest feature for me is the =
daily=20
commentary by the founder, whose calls on the indexes =
are very=20
often quite good. As a system, quite good. But again, I =
could=20
not follow that "system" to the letter, and =
that=20
system encouraged you to use other TA methods, along =
with=20
Omnitrader. It has a build in "System Tester" =
which=20
Metastock should copy (of course, and pay the=20
royalties).</FONT><FONT size=3D3> </FONT><FONT =
size=3D2>If you like=20
Elliott Wave try Robert Miner's book Dynamic Trader, for =
about=20
$100 you actually can see quantitatively how to apply =
fibonacci=20
and wave counts. I am using the software that Miner also =
has,=20
and follow the daily Future's Reports that are a part of =
the=20
Dynamic Trader system. Incidentally, Dynamic Trader =
software=20
seems to have build in some of the "settings" =
that=20
Bill Williams uses. I get the Williams' buy and sell =
signals=20
very easily using Dynamic Trader.</FONT><FONT size=3D3>=20
</FONT><FONT size=3D2>If you like Elliot Wave read the =
several=20
Pretcher books (But skip On the Crest of the Tidal Wave =
unless=20
you want to be bummed out. Of course, if you like to go =
short,=20
then it won't be so bad.) If you know something of =
Elliot Wave=20
read his last book integrating Socionomics into life and =
the=20
markets. Beautiful approach to the world.</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3> <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite type =3D cite>----- Original Message=20
-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxx";>Lionel=20
Issen</A><BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR><B=
>Sent:</B>=20
Saturday, October 07, 2000 7:05 =
PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
Online Investors Advantage<BR> </FONT><FONT =
face=3Darial=20
size=3D2>Larry:I haven't seen Online investors =
advantage.About=20
a year or two ago there was a related discussion =
about=20
Omnitrader. Omnitrader has about 1/2 dozen =
indicators that=20
are used to evaluate a stock. the sock that has the =
most=20
pluses is presumed to be the best buy.</FONT><FONT =
size=3D3>=20
</FONT><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>Several =
contributors pointed=20
out that since the indicators did not fire =
simultaneously,=20
the results of the selection would be sort of =
average. I'd=20
like to add that Chande and Kroll in "The New =
Technical=20
Trader" point out that all price-only =
indicators are=20
highly correlated, hence it doesn't pay to use more =
than a=20
few. I have noticed that I tend to react/respond =
better to=20
some indicators better than others, even though they =
are=20
giving the same signal, and that it is important =
that the=20
indicator chart be eye catching, like thicker lines, =
different colored lines, and so on.</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3>Lionel Issen <BR><A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxx";>lissen@xxxxxxxxx</A> <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite type =3D cite>----- Original =
Message=20
-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:Lpetersen1@xxxxxxxx";>LPetersen</A><BR><B>To:</B>=20
<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR><B=
>Sent:</B>=20
Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:57 =
PM<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
Online Investors Advantage<BR> Erich =
<BR>Not=20
related to MS, this company promises a 10 =
parameter=20
stock scan engine, which includes both =
fundamental, and=20
technical factors (including things like insider =
transactions). I saw their interesting =
slide show=20
demonstration, at the Peter Lowe seminar, in=20
Anaheim. Unfortunately, their web page is =
less=20
revealing. I have ordered their brochure, =
and plan=20
on attending their next seminar in San Diego.=20
<BR><BR>Does anyone have any comments about=20
<BR><B>Online Investors Advantage</B>? =
<BR><BR>Larry=20
<BR><BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.i-advantage.com/";>http://www.i-advantage.com/</A>=20
<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> =
<BR> =20
<BR><BR>Erich Kohlhofer wrote: <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite type =3D cite>Hi, where can I =
find=20
trading systems? I am looking to develop or =
find=20
<BR>something better than I am using =
presently.=20
=
<BR><BR>Erich</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><=
/BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New, Courier" size=3D3>Jim...<BR>Atlanta, GA</FONT>=20
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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:25:45 -0700
From: Walter Deemer <kn4t@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Online Investors Advantage2
At 10:58 AM 10/9/2000 -0400, someone wrote:
>thanks
<350 lines of repeated stuff deleted>
Doesn't ANYONE on this list know how to 1) send a private reply or 2) delete
unnecessary material from a reply??
Geesh...
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 09:56:45 -0700
From: "Bob Jagow" <bjagow@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Reply to Mr. Widlum
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The problem isn't yours, Bud -- had they requested it
privately, your reply wouldn't go to the MS list.
Please add me to your list.
TIA,
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Songyun
Fox
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 6:09 AM
To: Lars.Widlund@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Reply to Mr. Widlum
Yes, your right.
It is a careless mistake. But, from one who is 88 years
old.
Maybe you can forgive me this one time.
Bud
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<BODY>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D250412516-09102000><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>The=20
problem isn't yours, Bud -- had they requested it privately, your =
reply=20
wouldn't go to the MS list.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D250412516-09102000><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D250412516-09102000><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Please=20
add me to your list.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D250412516-09102000></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D250412516-09102000><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>TIA</FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D250412516-09102000><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D250412516-09102000><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Bob</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On=20
Behalf Of</B> Songyun Fox<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 09, 2000 =
6:09=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Lars.Widlund@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;=20
metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> Reply to Mr.=20
Widlum<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow Special =
G1">Yes, your=20
right.</FONT></B><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow Special G1"></FONT></B> =
<P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow Special G1">It is a careless =
mistake. =20
But, from one who is 88 years old.</FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial Narrow Special G1">Maybe you can forgive me this one=20
time.</FONT></B><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow Special G1"></FONT></B>=20
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Date: 9 Oct 2000 10:28:11 -0700
From: Alexandros Spiroglou <a_spiroglou@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: day calculations
How could i use MS to do calculations using time instead of price?
i.e. suppose i would like to add(move forward) 3 days on 1st of January
(resulting in 4th of January).
Warmest regards
Alex Spiroglou
_______________________________________________________________________
Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now!
http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:47:28 -0500
From: "Al Taglavore" <altag@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Online Investors Advantage2
1) in MS Internet Explorer, click the File button, then the Property
button, then the
2)Click the Reply to all button, then highlight the material you wish to
delete, then click the delete key on your keyboard.
- ----------
> From: Walter Deemer <kn4t@xxxxxxxx>
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Online Investors Advantage2
> Date: Monday, October 09, 2000 2:25 PM
>
> At 10:58 AM 10/9/2000 -0400, someone wrote:
>
> >thanks
>
> <350 lines of repeated stuff deleted>
>
> Doesn't ANYONE on this list know how to 1) send a private reply or 2)
delete
> unnecessary material from a reply??
>
> Geesh...
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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 10:54:17 -0700
From: Lpetersen1@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Investors Advantage
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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 11:08:13 -0800
From: Jim Simko <jssrvs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Investors Advantage
Do they have any planned for Fairbanks Alaska?
Lpetersen1@xxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> If you are interested in this product, you can do your own research,
> and
> attend their seminar.
> Larry
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> [Back To The Home Page] Free Seminar Schedule
> --------------------------------------------------
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> -------------------------------
> October
> -------------------------------
> Minneapolis Area
> Atlanta Area
> Hartford Area
> Raleigh Area
> Toronto Area
> Salt Lake City Area
> Dallas Area
> Houston Area
> Nashville Area
> San Antonio Area
> Washington DC Area
> London Area
> Montreal Area
> Philadelphia Area
> -------------------------------
> November
> -------------------------------
> Hong Kong Area
> Orlando Area
> Singapore Area
> Miami Area
> New Orleans Area
> St. Louis Area
> Tampa Area
> Denver Area
> Phoenix Area
> Tulsa/Oklahoma City Area
> Vancouver Area
> Anaheim Area
> Los Angeles Area
> Milwaukee Area
> Birmingham Area
> San Diego Area
> Manchester Area
> Cincinnati Area
> Cleveland Area
> Florida Area
> Pittsburg Area
> Alaska Area
> Portland Area
> Seattle Area
> Spokane Area
> Edinburgh Area
> Dublin Area
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Workshops - Free Seminars - Testimonials - Contact Us - About
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 15:34:21 -0700
From: Gene Ricci <genr@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: MetaStock versus Omega's TradeStation
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Has anyone done a comparison of MetaStock versus Omega's TradeStation? =
I am about to finish my MetaStock trial period and don't have anything =
to compare MetaStock to.
Thanks in advance,
Gene Ricci
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I am=20
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:22:45 -0700
From: "Steve Karnish" <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Investors Advantage
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Simko" <jssrvs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: Investors Advantage
> Do they have any planned for Fairbanks Alaska?
>
> Lpetersen1@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> > If you are interested in this product, you can do your own research,
> > and
> > attend their seminar.
> > Larry
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > [Back To The Home Page] Free Seminar Schedule
>
--------------------------------------------------------------
> > -------------------------------
> > October
> > -------------------------------
> > Minneapolis Area
> > Atlanta Area
> > Hartford Area
> > Raleigh Area
> > Toronto Area
> > Salt Lake City Area
> > Dallas Area
> > Houston Area
> > Nashville Area
> > San Antonio Area
> > Washington DC Area
> > London Area
> > Montreal Area
> > Philadelphia Area
> > -------------------------------
> > November
> > -------------------------------
> > Hong Kong Area
> > Orlando Area
> > Singapore Area
> > Miami Area
> > New Orleans Area
> > St. Louis Area
> > Tampa Area
> > Denver Area
> > Phoenix Area
> > Tulsa/Oklahoma City Area
> > Vancouver Area
> > Anaheim Area
> > Los Angeles Area
> > Milwaukee Area
> > Birmingham Area
> > San Diego Area
> > Manchester Area
> > Cincinnati Area
> > Cleveland Area
> > Florida Area
> > Pittsburg Area
> > Alaska Area
> > Portland Area
> > Seattle Area
> > Spokane Area
> > Edinburgh Area
> > Dublin Area
>
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> > Workshops - Free Seminars - Testimonials - Contact Us - About
OIA
>
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> > (c) 1998 Online Investors Advantage. All rights reserved
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:18:21 -0500
From: "Steve Denk" <stevedenk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Investors Advantage
Nobody really answered the question about what is behind Online Investors
Advantage so here goes....
If you know anything about basic fundamental and technical analysis, the
Investors Advantage is a whole lot of money for some very simple ideas. I
know someone who went to their program, paid $3k for which he got two days
of a seminar and what I consider extremely basic information. Someone else
on the other hand might think it is the holy grail. One thing about the
investment "training" arena, the promoters are usually also very good
marketers - and they understand how to market hopes and dreams. Not a bad
living if you can do it. Here is the basic outline:
There are 5 steps: (This is a very simple overview but is basically what
they do)
Step 1 Search for a stock. -
Their software does basic searches that you can acquire free from many
different net sources. Like a search for high earnings, new highs, sales,
cash flow, basing breakouts, etc. Any combination, it does not really
matter. You are just looking for basically strong fundamentals. That gives
you a set of stocks to look at. They have some canned screens available.
Step 2 - Evaluate the prospects.
This is a two phase process. Phase one looks at basic fundamental criteria
like:
5/30 day volume ratio - higher than 150% is good, lower than 50 is bad
p/e ratio 7-14 good, >50 or <5 bad
p/e relative ratio 30 or lower good, > 70 bad
Projected EPS 1 mo - positive good, negative bad
Eps rank >70% good, <30% bad
Accumulation/dist - >60 good, <40 bad
You want a stock with more positive fundamentals. From the stocks that make
it to the top of the fundamental screen go to phase 2 which is to sort
through your refined list and then actually eyeball the chart. You want a
chart to be in a rising trend. Prices lower on the left, higher on the
right. Check volatility. Look at the Zacks earning estimates along with a
few other things.
Step 3 & 4 - Time the purchase and the sale
Macd cross (long avg over short or vice versa) and a stochastic cross (at 25
/ 75 level). This is the trigger into (and sometimes out of) the stock. They
may also look at a 30 day moving average to assess trend. They may also
eyeball volume for the move and support and resistance.
Step 5 - Track your portfolio.
If you have metastock and any basic knowledge of technical and fundamental
analysis, the OIA program is most likely things you already know, just might
not be applying in the same fashion.
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 02:08:22 +0100
From: "A.J. Maas" <anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: a beauty of a classic H&S
Like mentioned, schoolbook theories do not always make practise.
A personal thing tho, if it helps you quantifying/qualifying an already
valid pattern.
Not withstanding too tho, that theories are men-made. Men throughout history
did
not always made logical theories (or true or even practical).
(Pre Columbus-era: the earth is flat !!!!!!!! Off late in TA: Fibbionancy
!!!!!!!!
And on the Internet: the hoaxes !!!!!).
Patterns do not need any other indicators then the Price present to be
valid.
Neither to quantify or to qualify themselves. A simple Price indicator is
sufficient.
Whatever comes next after is then men-made.....................(see
Columbus+ above).
Regards,
Ton Maas
ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.
Homepage http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas
- ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: "Al Taglavore" <altag@xxxxxxxxxx>
Aan: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Verzonden: maandag 9 oktober 2000 7:09
Onderwerp: Re: a beauty of a classic H&S
> Mr. Maas,
>
> The volume factor is not a theory, it is critical as to what the investor
> psychology and reactions were that caused that pattern or any TA pattern
to
> form. To further confirm, I would refer anyone interested to John
Murphy's
> book "Technical Analysis of the Futures Markets", page 111, under the bold
> heading "The Importance Of Volume". Mr. Murphy states, "The accompanying
> volume pattern plays an important role in the development of the head and
> shoulders top as it does in all price patterns." This is a direct quote
> from the book. My copy was published in 1986. If you are going to be in
> attendance at the TAG seminar next week, I am certain that John would
> discuss this with you....he has answered all of my questions in the past.
>
> Also, Mr. Murphy states on page 153 of his book concerning the diamond
> formation, "It is a relatively rare pattern but is more often seen at
> market tops. More often that not, it is a reversal rather than a
> continuation pattern. He also discusses the volume reactions that should
> accompany the pattern.
>
> Good trading,
> Al Taglavore
>
>
> ----------
> > From: A.J. Maas
> > To: Metastock-List <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: a beauty of a classic H&S
> > Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 8:06 PM
> >
> > E&M also write that a Diamond is "only a correction" pattern. Now, for
- ----------snip-------------
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:39:56 +0100
From: "A.J. Maas" <anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: a beauty of a classic H&S
1) Yep, yours included. Great contribution, by the way.
2) Yep, since
a-1) that going by personal opinions expressed in books+publications do
not make me money.
a-2) that it is my personal actions that do make me money.
b-1) that from my personal actions made, I myself will gain, in money
and in experience.
b-2) that from b-1's both gains made in the past, I can rely on them
both to gain more in future.
c-1) that Hollywood movies are also creations from many published
authors.
c-2) that they make money for the movie directors, but not for me.
d-1) that my personal practical experiencies do make me the desired
cash+profits.
d-2) that it is therefore also my money I have to put at risk and not
that of the published authors.
e-1) that the Risk of Welfare prohibits me to listen to non-factual &
personal theories.
e-2) that the Risk of Welfare requires me to go by my own personal
experiences.
f-1) that I'm on my own out there and when I need to
decide.....................I'm on my own!
f-2) that I have long ago outgrown the (school)
books..............practise is a different ball game.
Basicaly:
No publishment is ever a definite rule set in such a dynamics that the
financial markets are.
Take what you can from them, the (school) books, for own use and then
further go "your own way".
The best example for this is that of the 400+ year old, eg the oldest known
TA indicator :
"Moving Averages".
Its Up Crossings are Golden Crossings and its Down Crossings are Dead
Crossings.
Either direction can be invested.
BUT, should one hang onto this first ever published personal theory, then
every Up or
every Down Crossing made will make you money in that right direction, Right?
Wrong ! And that's known from practise {and history or vice versa}.
In trending markets it will in 60-70% of the time help you to gain, but not
in the other 30%,
let alone in the market's trading phases.
No need to publish this, since that they are well prooven facts. Anyone
capable to read+write
can understand these facts just by a quick look at the indicators, and thus
the -in practise-
not fool proof theory.
And like mentioned before, many securities do not ever give volumes with
their Charts, whilst
valid H+S's are made on these Charts, and that can be easely taken positions
in.
Regards,
Ton Maas
ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.
Homepage http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas
- ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: <Mullin285@xxxxxxx>
Aan: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Verzonden: maandag 9 oktober 2000 15:22
Onderwerp: Re: a beauty of a classic H&S
>
> > -----------------------------------------
> > For starters
> > -you should not believe everything that's written.
>
> Presumably this would include Email list rants and writings as well.
>
> > Second
> > -personal experiences are more valuable.
>
> Does this suggest your personal experiences are more valuable than E&Ms as
> well as Murphy and other published authors?
>
>
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:36:15 -0700
From: "Michael Gilbert" <tradermike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: a beauty of a classic H&S
WOW
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Taglavore" <altag@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: a beauty of a classic H&S
> Mr. Maas,
>
> The volume factor is not a theory, it is critical as to what the investor
> psychology and reactions were that caused that pattern or any TA pattern
to
> form. To further confirm, I would refer anyone interested to John
Murphy's
> book "Technical Analysis of the Futures Markets", page 111, under the bold
> heading "The Importance Of Volume". Mr. Murphy states, "The accompanying
> volume pattern plays an important role in the development of the head and
> shoulders top as it does in all price patterns." This is a direct quote
> from the book. My copy was published in 1986. If you are going to be in
> attendance at the TAG seminar next week, I am certain that John would
> discuss this with you....he has answered all of my questions in the past.
>
> Also, Mr. Murphy states on page 153 of his book concerning the diamond
> formation, "It is a relatively rare pattern but is more often seen at
> market tops. More often that not, it is a reversal rather than a
> continuation pattern. He also discusses the volume reactions that should
> accompany the pattern.
>
> Good trading,
> Al Taglavore
>
>
> ----------
> > From: A.J. Maas <anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: Metastock-List <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: a beauty of a classic H&S
> > Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 8:06 PM
> >
> > E&M also write that a Diamond is "only a correction" pattern. Now, for
> the
> > life of me, that must be (along with their personal Volume theory) one
of
> > their greatest bloopers in that further excellent splendid book.
> > -----------------------------------------
> > For starters
> > -you should not believe everything that's written.
> > Second
> > -personal experiences are more valuable.
> > Third
> > -other people's theories should not come between you and your
> Charting.
> > Fourth, the E&M's personal volumes theory is that of the 194x-era,
where:
> > -Exchanges were basicaly local affairs {now it is an International
> affair, even
> > an Internet-off-hours affair, where trades made outside the
> Exchange will
> > not ever be included in the daily volume that gets traded on that
> Exchange}
> > -Trading baskets hardly existed and Derivates etc did NOTexisted,
eg
> so
> > at that time the stocks were the only traded underlays back then,
> whereas
> > nowadays the derivates traded greatly overexceed the stocks
> traded.
> > -(Personal) Computers had to be invented yet.
> > Fifth:
> > -Price rises or falls aren't based on volume, but these are based
> > -on the supply and demand (both incl.
> competition)
> > -on the free market flow
> > Many of these aspects that we now know, weren't known or present
> back
> > then. And if these latter 2 basic are now also present in other
> markets than
> > there where the stocks are originaly traded, eg see above
> global+internationaly,
> > then naturaly for minimum, a distorted picture is painted if you
> would stick to
> > and only focus on that one(1) of the many available markets that
> might make up
> > the Price. Price is thus a very broad global ruling, wheras
volume
> is a minor local
> > and statisticly an unimportant and for Charting a minimal value.
> >
> > Sixth:
> > -Volumes should not even come between you and your Charting, eg
> between you
> > and Price, because of its contradictions.
> > -Contradictions(Price/Volume) in the markets:
> >
> > -Most recent: -the chips, pc's and other components' prices that despite
> the
> > huge demand, and thus increased volumes, have
all
> dropped
> > tremendously since the early 90's.
> > -the oil prices that despite the huge demand, and
> thus increased
> > volumes, have still leveled with the 1960-1970
> price ave's.
> > -internet access that was only recently quite
> expensive, wheras
> > despite the huge demand, and thus increased
> volumes, now most
> > providers will give away their FREE internet
> access.
> > -the automobile prices, that despite (or is it
> because) of its increased
> > demand, thus increased volumes, have only
> quadrippled in price
> > since the late 1960's.
> > -the house prices, that despite (or is it because)
> of its increased
> > demand, and thus increased volumes, have 10+
fold
> multiplied
> > since the late sixties/early seventees.
> >
> > -Compare a trade in the futures market using futures' volumes of the
> underlay.
> > Now also compare it using its options volumes(eh.....what to use:
calls
> or puts or
> > both??). Then also compare these vs local stock market volumes. Finaly
> also
> > compare these to its internationaly elsewhere traded volumes. For
> example
> > use the Dow Indu.
> >
> > Now who's volume figures to believe when charting a Dow's H+Ss
pattern?
>
> >
> > Seventh:
> > -I am for this mail bypassing the fact that for "esthablishing" the
daily
> traded
> > volumes, on some Exchanges, "tossing a coin" is the eod rule-set to
> "only
> > get some figure" out to the dataproviders.
> > -I am also for this mail bypassing the fact that direct trades, between
> parties
> > outside the Exchange, will not be included in the Echange's daily
> volumes.
> > -I am also bypassing the fact that large trades made on a falling or a
> rising
> > price during that day, will not be reflected in the eod volumes, eg a
> trade
> > can be "heavy" but not known is if someone's selling or buying, eg a
> heavy
> > traded falling trade or a heavy traded rising trade.
> > -I am also not including in this mail if it is a "thin" armered stock or
> a "thick"
> > armered stock, where large trades in a thin armered stock will be much
> > more reflected in its daily price (and volumes) than the same or a
small
> trade
> > in a thick armered stock.
> > ------------------------------------------
> > The volume's myth unraffled and therefore also E&M's very personal (see
> above)
> > -stemming from ancient 194x's theory- unraffled.
> >
> > (All done in a very simplistic way only).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ton Maas
> > ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.
> > Homepage http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas
> >
> >
>
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:01:02 -0700
From: "Bob Jagow" <bjagow@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: a beauty of a classic H&S
This worked for me, Ton.
http://www.writing101.com/How2beConcise.html
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of A.J. Maas
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 5:40 PM
> To: Metastock-List
> Subject: Re: a beauty of a classic H&S
>
>
> 1) Yep, yours included. Great contribution, by the way.
>
> 2) Yep, since
> a-1) that going by personal opinions expressed in
> books+publications do not make me money.
> a-2) that it is my personal actions that do make me money.
> b-1) that from my personal actions made, I myself will gain,
> in money and in experience.
> b-2) that from b-1's both gains made in the past, I can rely
> on them both to gain more in future.
> c-1) that Hollywood movies are also creations from many
> published authors.
> c-2) that they make money for the movie directors, but not for me.
> d-1) that my personal practical experiencies do make me the
> desired cash+profits.
> d-2) that it is therefore also my money I have to put at risk
> and not that of the published authors.
> e-1) that the Risk of Welfare prohibits me to listen to
> non-factual & personal theories.
> e-2) that the Risk of Welfare requires me to go by my own
> personal experiences.
> f-1) that I'm on my own out there and when I need to
> decide.....................I'm on my own!
> f-2) that I have long ago outgrown the (school)
> books..............practise is a different ball game.
>
> Basicaly:
>
> No publishment is ever a definite rule set in such a dynamics
> that the financial markets are.
> Take what you can from them, the (school) books, for own use and
> then further go "your own way".
>
> The best example for this is that of the 400+ year old, eg the
> oldest known TA indicator :
> "Moving Averages".
>
> Its Up Crossings are Golden Crossings and its Down Crossings are
> Dead Crossings.
> Either direction can be invested.
>
> BUT, should one hang onto this first ever published personal
> theory, then every Up or
> every Down Crossing made will make you money in that right
> direction, Right?
>
> Wrong ! And that's known from practise {and history or vice versa}.
> In trending markets it will in 60-70% of the time help you to
> gain, but not in the other 30%,
> let alone in the market's trading phases.
>
> No need to publish this, since that they are well prooven facts.
> Anyone capable to read+write
> can understand these facts just by a quick look at the
> indicators, and thus the -in practise-
> not fool proof theory.
>
> And like mentioned before, many securities do not ever give
> volumes with their Charts, whilst
> valid H+S's are made on these Charts, and that can be easely
> taken positions in.
>
> Regards,
> Ton Maas
> ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.
> Homepage http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas
>
>
> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> Van: <Mullin285@xxxxxxx>
> Aan: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Verzonden: maandag 9 oktober 2000 15:22
> Onderwerp: Re: a beauty of a classic H&S
>
>
> >
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > > For starters
> > > -you should not believe everything that's written.
> >
> > Presumably this would include Email list rants and writings as well.
> >
> > > Second
> > > -personal experiences are more valuable.
> >
> > Does this suggest your personal experiences are more valuable
> than E&Ms as
> > well as Murphy and other published authors?
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:23:29 +0200
From: "T.E.M. Lockefeer" <sky40912@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: BRCM : views
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All :
Everybody (?) has his own views about a stock :
who is willing to share his view on BRCM with me ?
I am still short and remain after analysis of 9 okt EOD data.
Theo Lockefeer.
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:35:01 +0200
From: "T.E.M. Lockefeer" <sky40912@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: a beauty of a classic H&S
Hello Al,
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Taglavore" <altag@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: a beauty of a classic H&S
> Does the volume requirements of a H&S apply to BRCM?
Should not the volume
> be much greater on the left shoulder, climaxing at the head and much less
> volume on the right shoulder?
TL : Yes al volume conditions are as you described it.
Rather than H&S, could we not be seeing a
> triple top?
TL : What is the difference ? consequences ?
Thanks
Theo Lockefeer.
>
> Al Taglavore
>
> ----------
> From: T.E.M. Lockefeer <sky40912@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: a beauty of a classic H&S
> Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:22 AM
>
> List :
>
> Look at BRCM chart and you will find (starting about July)
> a Head and shoulder formation "out of the book" .
>
> Has anyone of you research about the % downsize of
> H&S formations ?
>
> Thanks and good weekend.
>
> Theo Lockefeer.
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:16:04 GMT
From: "j seed" <jseed_10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: BRCM : views
Theo,
You may want to take a different perspective view of BRCM by looking at a
Weekly chart.
J.
>From: "T.E.M. Lockefeer" <sky40912@xxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: BRCM : views
>Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:23:29 +0200
>
>All :
>
>Everybody (?) has his own views about a stock :
>who is willing to share his view on BRCM with me ?
>I am still short and remain after analysis of 9 okt EOD data.
>
>Theo Lockefeer.
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:00:33 -0500
From: Songyun Fox <songyun@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: BRCM : views
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I'd be happy to help, but it must load the data manually.
If you can send an attachment of prices for the last 6 months that would
make an answer back to you simpler.
Bud Fox
"T.E.M. Lockefeer" wrote:
> All : Everybody (?) has his own views about a stock :who is willing to
> share his view on BRCM with me ?I am still short and remain after
> analysis of 9 okt EOD data. Theo Lockefeer.
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<font color="#CC0000">I'd be happy to help, but it must load the
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:25:12 EDT
From: Macromnt@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: MetaStock versus Omega's TradeStation
I have not done the comparison personally but I had an assistant who worked
with TredeStation in our office and had Metastock at home and according to
him Metastock is far less powerful that TradeStation.
Good Luck.
Jean Jacques
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:00:33 -0400
From: marnoldi <arnoldi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: EQUITY FORMULA needed
in the system tests there is a tab "equity", can someone please copy &
paste & e-nail me this formula.
arnoldi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
thanks
michael arnoldi
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:01:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gregoire Tardy <happy_greg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Txt -> Access -> MetaStock - DB to share.
Hi all,
Hard to contribute .. for the first time. I sent a
message on Friday without any success. Seem not to
have been delivered ... Short intro:
I built an MSAccess DB that loads data downloaded with
Don LaBarre VB tool (only). Then it exports data to a
file to be loaded into Metastock. Why? With this
process, I keep stock data in an Access table that I
can use to perform analysis with Excel. No need to
directly import data into Excel. It is free (no
support) and the code (short) is open to anyone.
Interested? Send me an email.
Ciao,
Greg.
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