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Hi Ed, After all the incendiary mails that were bandied about here in the last couple of weeks I was really enjoyed to read a number of light-hearted comments on pattern recognition along with the merits of grey vs. silicon matter. And as a light heart makes for light work, it's with pleasure that I return to our 'bone of contention': Cups & Handles. I've read the Easy Language file you posted, and I'm sorry to say that here once again we have evidence of the inherent superiority of EL over MetaStock's language: 1. The number of parentheses required to represent the diverse and nested if-conditions would be mind boggling, and certain to cause illegible and/or faulty code (remember LISP?). 2. A count of 18 variables is close to the (incomprehensible) upper limit for MS. 3. The looping construct starting at line 23 cannot be translated at all because there's no such animal in MS. Other participants of this list have at times found work-arounds for this kind of problems but for my part I beg to desist. When (and especially IF) Equis will have implemented the long promised VBA for MetaStock things will be different - Hey guys, are you listnin'? A short search at Yahoo.com for "cup & handle" turned up a surprising number of references (I'll list some of them below). Leafing through I made some revealing observations: 1. There seems to be no agreement on what exactly constitutes a cup, either with or without handle. In Germany btw. some people talk about "saucers" instead (which makes me wonder where to attach a handle). 2. The C&H apperantly lies "at the heart of the CANSLIM" method (system?). Probably this is the cause that so 3. Many expert (sic) commentators seem to find C&Hs everywhere. Selloffs, double bottoms, inverted head & shoulders... all and sundry kinds of reversal are declared to be a C&H formation. Seems to me that first of all a workable (that is, quantifiable) definition of C&H has to be arrived at. The only site where that's attempted (besides your EL-code, Ed) is http://www.maui.net/~haikulab/mh.htm  However, maybe precisely because of their defining terms, the authors require that a run up must take place before the pattern can develop. Although their parameters appear to be amenable to formulation in MS I'm afraid his requirement invalidates their whole approach. What do you think, can we agree on my initial 'definition' of C&H as a rounding bottom with a pull-back to the rim? If I remember rightly from one of my early textbooks on patterns the rounding bottom occurs very rarely; however when it does, it gives a highly reliable buy signal, all the more so if a handle forms (volume is important - as with all patterns). This being the case, developing a workable filter for C&Hs might be a quite rewarding, that is renumerative, pursuit. Kind regards & happy trading, Jan Willem Some pages with C&H texts/hype: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/cupandhandle.asp http://daytrading.about.com/money/daytrading/library/weekly/aa032299.htm http://www.news.bridge.com/NEWS/gfiv42.html http://store.traders.com/traderscom/-v13-c07-trading-pdf.html http://www.investors.com/learn/ICtech02.asp And don't forget to visit: http://www.ragbone.com/shop/catalogue/pteacup931ct.html ;-) At 10:44 05.10.2000 +0800, you wrote: Hi guys, attached is a word file containing the easy language formula for C&H. I would be grateful if any one of you could translate that into metastock format.  Thank you in advance.   Ed