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Nice post Lionel, hope it helps.
John Manasco
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: Ton Maas Slander
> From time to time, there are a few cranky unpleasant people on this
> listserver. When they persist even after other subscribers try to
> remonstrate with them, the best solution is to completely ignore them. It
is
> frustrating for an actor to perform to an empty theater.
>
> Like other listservers I use, almost all of the subscribers are very
helpful
> and cooperative. I would hate to see anyone leave because of unwarranted
> criticism.
>
> A few years ago IEEE published a biography of Oliver Heaviside. The
> Heaviside layer is named after him. Heaviside was a self taught
mathematical
> genius. He discovered/invented operational calculus. He made many
> discoveries that had to be rediscovered by others, including one that
> Feynman got the Nobel prize for. Until I read this biography I couldn't
> understand why his peers virtually blacklisted him. It turns out that he
was
> a misogynist, he didn't like dealing with people. When a someone asked him
> if he could elaborate on the formulas, in a paper he wrote, so that a
> working engineer could understand and apply them, he answered "the
equations
> speak for themselves" (he was worse than some of my college profs). Prior
to
> WWI, the British Postmaster General was the hitech dispenser of research
> grants as NASA is today. (The Br Postoffice ran the telegraph and
telephone
> systems and for that period were very hitech). Heaviside went out of his
way
> to publicly antagonize the Postmaster General. He also went out of his way
> to antagonize those he could/should have had as allies. Instead of being
> acclaimed and knighted by the King/Queen, he died in obscurity.
>
> I guess the point that I am trying to make is that we should be a bit
> gentle with our criticisms and stick to the facts, and not get
> nasty-personal. Bees gather around honey, not around vinegar.
>
> Lionel Issen
> lissen@xxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Scott" <ron@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:11 AM
> Subject: RE: Ton Maas Slander
>
>
> > You can add my name to the list of people complaining about the angry,
> > "personal attack" type postings populating this group. Overall, the
> quality
> > of this group as a learning experience for Metastock is not very good,
and
> > these types of unsavory postings are a large part of that problem. Free
> > speech is one thing; but for those of us who are serious students of
> > Metastock and TA this is nothing but noise. I support users rights to
> > criticize Metastock and Equis; but not the right to criticize each other
> > personally. It would be really nice if this group had a friendly,
> > supportive atmosphere; instead of the fearful angry one dominated by
> > basically 2 groups: first, the "negative, angry" posters; and second,
the
> > super-sophisticated users who don't want to reveal any of the inner
> workings
> > of their "secret" systems, but have apparently been on Metastock for a
> long
> > time and therefore have some sort of seniority. The latter group
discusses
> > to the nth degree advanced programming concepts that the average user
will
> > probably never be able to even understand, much less use in actual
> trading.
> > Never have I seen a trading group that was less conducive to
> > less-experienced users than this one. There just doesn't seem to be any
> > middle ground.
> >
> > Ron Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of ribau@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 7:50 AM
> > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Ton Maas Slander
> >
> >
> > Even the kill file doesn't get rid of this guy. One must suffer through
> the
> > hot air in the quotes and comments of others. It is indeed a shame that
we
> > cannot learn about MetaStock without being subjected to such anger and
> > arrogance. I wonder how many other worthwhile contributors have been run
> > off...looks like the only escape is to quit the list.
> >
> > >>Wow, I just signed up for the trial and see all this stuff. I had
> > >>heard that I could get some help understanding the software
> > >>but I guess not.
> > >>
> > >>What a shame!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: Don LaBarre
> > >>To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 7:39 AM
> > >>Subject: Re: Ton Maas Slander
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Because of all the slander I have receive from Ton Maas I will no
longer
> > be
> > >>sending out my program. Which was a FREE program to help new
Metastock
> > >>users get up and running with real data. Some people on this list feel
> > that
> > >>if you aren't giving away formulas or trades then your not
contributing
> to
> > >>the list. There are many ways to help other Metastock users besides
just
> > >>giving help with formulas. It's just too bad that one or two people
> have
> > to
> > >>ruin it for the majority.
> > >>
> > >>I apologize to all the traders that would have liked to use my
program.
> > >>You're free to send Ton Maas a note expressing your feelings on this
> > >>subject. I, along with many others, have given up!!
> > >>
> > >>Don LaBarre
> > >>Web Developer
> > >>Visual Basic Programmer
> > >>www.u2ecom.com
> > >>www.cedarcreektrading.com
> > >>www.auto607.com
> > >>www.conklinplayers.com
> > >>
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: "Guy Tann" <grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>To: "Metastock User Group" <metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 3:41 AM
> > >>Subject: calculations
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Don,
> > >>>
> > >>> Here's part of what I had in one indicator that I called COMHX01X09.
> > >>>
> > >>> COMHX03:= ( FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") - Ref(
> > >>> FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") , -3 )) / 3;
> > >>>
> > >>> COMHX04:= ( FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") - Ref(
> > >>> FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") , -4 )) / 4;
> > >>>
> > >>> COMHX05:= ( FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") - Ref(
> > >>> FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") , -5 )) / 5;
> > >>>
> > >>> COMHX06:= ( FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") - Ref(
> > >>> FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") , -6 ) ) / 6;
> > >>>
> > >>> COMHX07:= ( FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") - Ref(
> > >>> FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") , -7 ) ) / 7;
> > >>>
> > >>> COMHX08:= ( FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") - Ref(
> > >>> FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") , -8 ) ) / 8;
> > >>>
> > >>> COMHX09:= ( FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") - Ref(
> > >>> FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") , -9 ) ) / 9;
> > >>> COMHX09;
> > >>>
> > >>> The only thing missing is COMHX01 and COMHX02. When running, it
works
> > >>> sporadically or not at all. I cut and pasted COMHX01 and COMHX02
into
> > >>their
> > >>> own indicators (which is how I tested them in the first place) and
> they
> > >>work
> > >>> fine. I'm now moving all of these back into individual indicators.
I
> > >>have
> > >>> no idea why this didn't work since I only had 9 variables. The
> COMX09;
> > >>> entry was strictly for plotting purposes so I could check out the
> > detailed
> > >>> results (remember, I'm doing a conversion here and need to verify
> > >>> calculations to 4 decimal places).
> > >>>
> > >>> After verifying my calculation results, I delete the final COMHX09
> > >>plotting
> > >>> entry. Anyway, why they don't work when contained in one indicator
> and
> > do
> > >>> work when cut and pasted into their own indicator, I have absolutely
> no
> > >>> idea.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Guy
> > >>>
> > >>> " If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you."
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
>
>
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