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>From time to time, there are a few cranky unpleasant people on this
listserver. When they persist even after other subscribers try to
remonstrate with them, the best solution is to completely ignore them. It is
frustrating for an actor to perform to an empty theater.
Like other listservers I use, almost all of the subscribers are very helpful
and cooperative. I would hate to see anyone leave because of unwarranted
criticism.
A few years ago IEEE published a biography of Oliver Heaviside. The
Heaviside layer is named after him. Heaviside was a self taught mathematical
genius. He discovered/invented operational calculus. He made many
discoveries that had to be rediscovered by others, including one that
Feynman got the Nobel prize for. Until I read this biography I couldn't
understand why his peers virtually blacklisted him. It turns out that he was
a misogynist, he didn't like dealing with people. When a someone asked him
if he could elaborate on the formulas, in a paper he wrote, so that a
working engineer could understand and apply them, he answered "the equations
speak for themselves" (he was worse than some of my college profs). Prior to
WWI, the British Postmaster General was the hitech dispenser of research
grants as NASA is today. (The Br Postoffice ran the telegraph and telephone
systems and for that period were very hitech). Heaviside went out of his way
to publicly antagonize the Postmaster General. He also went out of his way
to antagonize those he could/should have had as allies. Instead of being
acclaimed and knighted by the King/Queen, he died in obscurity.
I guess the point that I am trying to make is that we should be a bit
gentle with our criticisms and stick to the facts, and not get
nasty-personal. Bees gather around honey, not around vinegar.
Lionel Issen
lissen@xxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Scott" <ron@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: Ton Maas Slander
> You can add my name to the list of people complaining about the angry,
> "personal attack" type postings populating this group. Overall, the
quality
> of this group as a learning experience for Metastock is not very good, and
> these types of unsavory postings are a large part of that problem. Free
> speech is one thing; but for those of us who are serious students of
> Metastock and TA this is nothing but noise. I support users rights to
> criticize Metastock and Equis; but not the right to criticize each other
> personally. It would be really nice if this group had a friendly,
> supportive atmosphere; instead of the fearful angry one dominated by
> basically 2 groups: first, the "negative, angry" posters; and second, the
> super-sophisticated users who don't want to reveal any of the inner
workings
> of their "secret" systems, but have apparently been on Metastock for a
long
> time and therefore have some sort of seniority. The latter group discusses
> to the nth degree advanced programming concepts that the average user will
> probably never be able to even understand, much less use in actual
trading.
> Never have I seen a trading group that was less conducive to
> less-experienced users than this one. There just doesn't seem to be any
> middle ground.
>
> Ron Scott
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of ribau@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 7:50 AM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Ton Maas Slander
>
>
> Even the kill file doesn't get rid of this guy. One must suffer through
the
> hot air in the quotes and comments of others. It is indeed a shame that we
> cannot learn about MetaStock without being subjected to such anger and
> arrogance. I wonder how many other worthwhile contributors have been run
> off...looks like the only escape is to quit the list.
>
> >>Wow, I just signed up for the trial and see all this stuff. I had
> >>heard that I could get some help understanding the software
> >>but I guess not.
> >>
> >>What a shame!
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: Don LaBarre
> >>To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 7:39 AM
> >>Subject: Re: Ton Maas Slander
> >>
> >>
> >>Because of all the slander I have receive from Ton Maas I will no longer
> be
> >>sending out my program. Which was a FREE program to help new Metastock
> >>users get up and running with real data. Some people on this list feel
> that
> >>if you aren't giving away formulas or trades then your not contributing
to
> >>the list. There are many ways to help other Metastock users besides just
> >>giving help with formulas. It's just too bad that one or two people
have
> to
> >>ruin it for the majority.
> >>
> >>I apologize to all the traders that would have liked to use my program.
> >>You're free to send Ton Maas a note expressing your feelings on this
> >>subject. I, along with many others, have given up!!
> >>
> >>Don LaBarre
> >>Web Developer
> >>Visual Basic Programmer
> >>www.u2ecom.com
> >>www.cedarcreektrading.com
> >>www.auto607.com
> >>www.conklinplayers.com
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Guy Tann" <grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: "Metastock User Group" <metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 3:41 AM
> >>Subject: calculations
> >>
> >>
> >>> Don,
> >>>
> >>> Here's part of what I had in one indicator that I called COMHX01X09.
> >>>
> >>> COMHX03:= ( FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") - Ref(
> >>> FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") , -3 )) / 3;
> >>>
> >>> COMHX04:= ( FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") - Ref(
> >>> FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") , -4 )) / 4;
> >>>
> >>> COMHX05:= ( FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") - Ref(
> >>> FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") , -5 )) / 5;
> >>>
> >>> COMHX06:= ( FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") - Ref(
> >>> FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") , -6 ) ) / 6;
> >>>
> >>> COMHX07:= ( FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") - Ref(
> >>> FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") , -7 ) ) / 7;
> >>>
> >>> COMHX08:= ( FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") - Ref(
> >>> FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") , -8 ) ) / 8;
> >>>
> >>> COMHX09:= ( FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") - Ref(
> >>> FmlVar("COMH-MXX","COMHMXX") , -9 ) ) / 9;
> >>> COMHX09;
> >>>
> >>> The only thing missing is COMHX01 and COMHX02. When running, it works
> >>> sporadically or not at all. I cut and pasted COMHX01 and COMHX02 into
> >>their
> >>> own indicators (which is how I tested them in the first place) and
they
> >>work
> >>> fine. I'm now moving all of these back into individual indicators. I
> >>have
> >>> no idea why this didn't work since I only had 9 variables. The
COMX09;
> >>> entry was strictly for plotting purposes so I could check out the
> detailed
> >>> results (remember, I'm doing a conversion here and need to verify
> >>> calculations to 4 decimal places).
> >>>
> >>> After verifying my calculation results, I delete the final COMHX09
> >>plotting
> >>> entry. Anyway, why they don't work when contained in one indicator
and
> do
> >>> work when cut and pasted into their own indicator, I have absolutely
no
> >>> idea.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Guy
> >>>
> >>> " If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
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