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<DIV><FONT color=#000080><SPAN
class=870350315-02042000>Ullrich,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080><SPAN
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<DIV><FONT color=#000080><SPAN class=870350315-02042000>you absolutely right -
thinking from the perspective of a day trader. That's why I love CyberCorp as a
day trading broker.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080><SPAN
class=870350315-02042000></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080><SPAN class=870350315-02042000>For my longer term
trades, however, I will have my stop losses so far away from the current market
that MM manipulation usually is not an issue. And if the trade is going my way,
I want to have the market take me out of the trade automatically at
my</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=870350315-02042000><FONT color=#000080 face="Comic Sans MS" size=3><FONT
face="Times New Roman"> trailing stop without my having to worry about a failing
computer or internet connection.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=870350315-02042000></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#000080 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=870350315-02042000>That's why I think longer term traders should know
beforehand about the way CyberCorp handles stops, and not find out after all the
hassle of opening an account. CyberCorp doesn't make this point sufficiently
clear in their promotion. I thought it might be helpful for some listers to have
that information. I'm not trying to knock CyberCorp.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#000080 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=870350315-02042000></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#000080 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=870350315-02042000>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#000080 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=870350315-02042000></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#000080 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=870350315-02042000>Michael</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=870350315-02042000> </SPAN>-----Original
Message-----<BR></FONT><B><FONT face="Times New Roman">From</FONT>:</B>
owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On Behalf
Of </B>Ullrich Fischer<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 31, 2000 11:06
PM<BR><B>To:</B> metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Best Trade
Execution (Personal Experience)<BR><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"></FONT>Market orders given to the market
are visible and are subject to being deliberately hit by MMs. Having
your stop orders subject to Market Maker manipulation is, IMHO more dangerous
than having it on your machine. -uf<BR><BR>At 08:42 PM 3/31/00 +0200, you
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite type="cite"><FONT
color=#000080>Dan,</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT color=#000080>market orders
placed outside of trading hours rest on your own computer, too, until the
market opens.</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT
color=#000080>Regards,</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT
color=#000080>Michael</FONT>
<DL><FONT face=tahoma size=2>
<DD>-----Original Message-----
<DD>From:</B> owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [<A
href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5DOn";
eudora="autourl">mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]</A><A
href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%5DOn"; eudora="autourl">On</A>
Behalf Of </B>Dan
<DD>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 30, 2000 02:00
<DD>To:</B> metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<DD>Subject:</B> Re: Best Trade Execution (Personal
Experience)<BR><BR></FONT>
<DD>Michael,<FONT size=2>
<DD>Thanks for your post. Can you put in a market order before the
market opens (the nite before for example)?</FONT><FONT size=2>
<DD>Thanks,</FONT><FONT size=2>
<DD>Dan</FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite type="cite">
<DD>----- Original Message -----
<DD>From:</B> <A href="mailto:MikeSuesserott@xxxxxxxxxxx";>Michael
Suesserott</A>
<DD>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>
<DD>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 29, 2000 1:33 PM
<DD>Subject:</B> RE: Best Trade Execution (Personal
Experience)<BR><BR><FONT color=#000080>
<DD>Hello!</FONT>
<DD> <FONT color=#000080>
<DD>I posted the following to the Omega list recently:</FONT>
<DD> <FONT color=#000080>
<DD>....................</FONT><FONT color=#000080>
<DD>As regards Cybercorp, I, too, have an account there, and, basically,
I love this broker! Great software, especially in conjunction with
Quote.com, unbelievably fast response times, and friendly, helpful
service.</FONT><FONT color=#000080><BR><BR>
<DD>One caveat, though: all stops are held on your own PC, and, if
triggered there, are sent from your PC as market orders. Although the
software will do that automatically, it is still the trader's
responsibility to make sure that the PC is up and running continuously
(without crashes!), and that the Internet connection is OK, for as many
days and nights as the trade is on.<BR><BR>
<DD>Cybercorp just doesn't offer market-held stops. They see themselves
as a leading-edge day-trading outfit.<BR><BR>
<DD>So if you do any longer term stock trading, and that means longer
than one market day, IMO this broker is not feasible, because all the
responsibility to actually place those market orders (you cannot
technically call them stops) is on your own shoulders.<BR><BR>
<DD>Hope this helps.<BR><BR>
<DD>Michael</FONT></DD></BLOCKQUOTE></DD></DL></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Subject: Re: Stock Quote Vendors
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am having problems with QP V2.2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. when I boot up I get an error message that it
cant find daemon.exe</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. my computer has become more unstable and
requires several reboots during the day.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3. the link to real player (in QP2.2)
causes my computer to hang up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Lionel Issen<BR><A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
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<A href="mailto:mdussault@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=mdussault@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Michel
Dussault</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 02, 2000 7:08
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Stock Quote Vendors</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Ron, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I agree and would also add that the new program V2.2 is
very good.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>T</FONT><FONT size=2>hey or IRL (?) still have a minor bug
to fix when using the IRL database to export to Metastock. (They are aware of
that and said it would be fix asap)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Reuters is also working fine now and they also offer
Canadian quotes (not QP2). It's been months since errors where reported
and we had big volume days since that <g> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> MD</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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<A href="mailto:jamespalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=jamespalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>James Palmer</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 01, 2000 11:01
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Stock Quote Vendors</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Ron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I would recomend Quotes +. For price and customer
service they are outstanding. They have a fairly clean database and
are quite quick to correct any errors that are reported. The big
advantage is the ability to write scans and then export the results
automatically to a directory in Metastock format for viewing or further
scans using metastock.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>James</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:rwarsh@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=rwarsh@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Ron
Warshawsky</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 01, 2000 2:38
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Stock Quote Vendors</DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Dear list members,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> Can you please, share you knowledge regarding
reliable and error free stock quote vendors. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Currently I use Telescan, but after today's download I
found, that all quotes as of 03/31/2000 are duplicates of 03/30/2000.
Since TA is our primary tool, we don't have a luxury of working with the
wrong data (and with the vendor who supplies it).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Regards and Thanking all you in advance</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>P.S. I don't trade commodities or options, but please,
if possible comment on vendors who can provide these quotes
also.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Hi Walter,
When you stated that "it's free," were you referring to the kernel software?
If so, where might I find it? Thanks, Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Lake <wlake@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Metastock bulletin board <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sunday, April 02, 2000 8:52 AM
Subject: stuff
>Thanks for the emails.
>
>The basic difference between stats and econometrics is that the practical
>day to day use of econometrics is handling violations of statistical
>assumptions. Once you know the assumptions and how they are usually
violated
>in your data then it all becomes much clearer.
>
>Also ... there's a new book out on kernel regression ... Expert Trading
>Systems .. see the back page of TASC for this month. The web site has the
>table of contents and a chapter posted. If you're looking for software, I
>think that "Rosetta" uses kernel regression. It's free.
>
>Right now I'm wearing my accountants hat <G> and struggling with assembling
>daily COT data etc.
>
>Best regards
>
>Walter
>
>
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