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<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>Herman 
:</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>Interesting again 
:).</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt; Using VectorVest ( <A 
href="http://www.vectorvest.com/";>http://www.vectorvest.com/</A> ) it is quite 
easy to perform<BR>&gt; analysis that include fundamental data, something that 
is missing in MS. VV<BR>&gt; has some 30 columns of fundamental data that can be 
screened in seconds for<BR>&gt; approx. 7000+ US/CAN stocks. Quite efficient 
actually.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>Actually i am an ex-vectorvest 
user ( a year ago).</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>My opinion about Vectorvest 
:&nbsp; probably their fundamental</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>data is quiet good (nice to know 
in these (ex ?) crazy internet</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 
face=Arial><STRONG><EM>times.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>Their customer service is 
ok.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial>But i found in their 
RT-timer&nbsp; (technical tool as you probably know)</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>a major fault :&nbsp; The timing 
can be much beter and how is now</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>the basis of my private system 
which has formidable backtesting</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>results : now is my next problem 
(;)) to actually make it really work</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>in this difficult NASDAQ market 
: f.i.&nbsp; i found that on 13th (!) of march</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>(no not a friday but on a 
monday) the bears started their thing.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>If you would like to email me 
about vectorvest and metastock</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>as a usefull combination or 
related topics : <A 
href="mailto:sky40912@xxxxxxxxx";>sky40912@xxxxxxxxx</A></EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>is my 
email-address.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>(BTW i am Dutch , your name 
looks european ?).</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt; If you are interested I can email you the full 
29 column worksheet<BR>&gt; privately if you like. I am sure some tinkering 
would reveal other price<BR>&gt; related trends.<BR>&gt; <BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>If it isnot too big : please 
do.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>As we probable get off topic : 
please email me privately.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>Succesfull ! 
trading.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>Theo 
Lockefeer.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>.<BR>&gt; &nbsp; <BR>&gt; &nbsp; <BR>&gt; ----- 
Original Message -----&nbsp; <BR>&gt; From: Herman van den Bergen &lt;&lt;<A 
href="mailto:psytek@xxxxxxxx";>mailto:psytek@xxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<A 
href="mailto:psytek@xxxxxxxx";>psytek@xxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; To: &lt;&lt;<A 
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<A 
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
Sent: April 13, 2000 2:51 AM<BR>&gt; Subject: Performance vs Price<BR>&gt; 
<BR>&gt; &gt; Hi,<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; I am a newbie and invite your 
comments on the idea that buying stocks in<BR>&gt; &gt; certain price ranges 
might give one a little extra edge. See Excell chart<BR>&gt; &gt; 
attached.<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Has anybody used this relationship to their 
advantage?<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Happy trading,<BR>&gt; &gt; 
Herman.<BR>&gt; &gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 
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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:03:37 -0400
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From: Herman van den Bergen <psytek@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Performance vs Price
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Status:   

Thanks, your comments are greatly appreciated!

At 11:48 PM 04/13/2000 +0200, you wrote:
>According to your setup, the 40-50 range priced stocks are/were also the most
>advancing stocks, that scored 100%.

Absolutely right, I should have used a forward approach instead of backwards.

>But to give these results, which were well done by the way, some greater
and more
>in general, technical value, then:
>
>1. - 52 wks in a stock's life time seems a little too short, eg as though
>       a "baby has just been born".
>2. - test results are generated from an ultimate volatile market's period,
>       eg tested in a market's periodic utterly full trending phase.

True, but I am looking for relative short term factors and might even
reduce the time span more in an effort to find composites that best lead
and respond to various market segments. I believe that the more recent the
data the more value it has for short term trading. I use FAs and long term
price history mostly to assess stock volatility (risk) and overall trend. 

My approach might be naive but at this stage of the game simple indicators
and stats are easier to grasp intuitively than complex combinations of wild
formulas - I like to preserve an intuitive appreciation and feel for
whatever method I use.   

>What are/would have been the results if markets weren't that very trending
/ volatile?

The future will tell, but doesn't this applies to all analysis?

>Like your results (and given about the same time interval for measured
period), then a
>question remains : "how seriously should we take all this?".

Just a very small, but well defined, factor in the overall formula. Give me
twenty more of those and I would expect to be doing pretty well :-)

>A job well done,

Thank you - for a beginner words of praise mean much :-)

Happy trading,
Herman.