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Re: Flip it good/flippant better.


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  • Subject: Re: Flip it good/flippant better.
  • From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:01:11 -0700
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for mentioning Prophet Finance.&nbsp; They 
have an interesting web site at <A 
href="http://www.prophetfinance.com";>www.prophetfinance.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can you send me some information, or keep me 
posted, on items I thru L?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You certainly have a lot on your 
platter.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Lionel Issen<BR><A 
href="mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxx";>lissen@xxxxxxxxx</A></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve 
  Karnish</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 16, 2000 11:39 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Flip it good/flippant 
  better.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ton,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I saw a version of the Wiz on Saturday and the 
  wizard reminded me of you.&nbsp; Omnipotent, passing judgement, and dispensing 
  snide remarks from behind the protection of a thin veil (email).&nbsp; I once 
  wrote you, in a private email, "Ton is God".&nbsp; An unmerciful God you 
  turned out to be!&nbsp; What "trips your trigger" most about my shameless 
  commercial pursuits?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Are you upset about:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A.&nbsp; Equis International's 60 second 
  commercial, with yours truly, that's been running on CNBC for the last 
  month?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>B.&nbsp; The quarter page ads, the last couple of 
  months, that have been running in Investors Business Daily talking about my 
  brokerage experience and how MetaStock has benefited me?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>C.&nbsp; The partnership and licensing agreement 
  I signed with Prophet Finance.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>D.&nbsp; The fact that I'm one of the featured 
  technicians&nbsp;at ProFarmer's new website (a 137 year old organization). 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>E.&nbsp; My new partnership with the Spokane 
  folks that manage two billion dollars (I'm sure that's now a bit less after 
  last week).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>F.&nbsp; Becoming only one of 30 Registered 
  Investment Advisors in the state of Idaho.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>G.&nbsp; The fact that I sell MetaStock Pro for 
  two hundred bucks cheaper than Equis.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>H.&nbsp; My bookstore.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I.&nbsp;&nbsp; My negotiations with national 
  "business accelerator" firms.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>J.&nbsp;&nbsp; The book I'm currently writing 
  with my partner.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>K.&nbsp; The MetaStock add-on program that is 
  almost developed.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>L.&nbsp; The Visual Basic program that will 
  eliminate the need for EOD.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>M.&nbsp; The fifty folks who I trade 
  for.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In the late '70's I recall the phone calls I used 
  to have with Perry Kaufman when I was working for Paine Webber and then 
  Thomson McKinnon.&nbsp; He was writing his first two books and was thirsty for 
  any approaches he could find.&nbsp; I was tinkering with moving average 
  oscillators, and the subject fascinated him.&nbsp; I think he stole some ideas 
  from me, but since that time, I've STOLEN his PJ5 moving average.&nbsp; 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In the winter of 1981, I had an opportunity to 
  spend a week with Welles Wilder in Houston.&nbsp; He was taping an 
  instructional technical video, and I watched with interest for a week.&nbsp; 
  When the cameras were off, I fired all the questions I could conjure about the 
  RSI.&nbsp; I read his book soon after it came out and loved the way the RSI 
  worked.&nbsp; Of course, the 14 period RSI was not my cup of tea.&nbsp; To 
  anyone&nbsp;who would listen, I suggested a 9 period RSI with 20 and 80 as 
  trigger levels.&nbsp; Did I STEAL the RSI from Welles...you bet your European 
  ass I did.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Over the years I've STOLEN from anyone who will 
  let me.&nbsp; I've always liked to give credit to whoever I PICKPOCKET.&nbsp; 
  That's why I call it the CCT Bollinger Band Histogram.&nbsp; The Histogram is 
  a private joke, and I have the feeling that you probably lack a sense of 
  humor, so I'll keep it private.&nbsp; The FibCMO is not masking 
  anything.&nbsp; I SWIPED Tuschar's formula, improved on it, implemented it 
  into a system, back-tested it, and now trade it profitably.&nbsp; <FONT 
  face=Arial size=2>Since I am confessing all my sins, I have also STOLEN from 
  Krausze, Blau, Nisson, and many others.&nbsp; Mothers hide your children, the 
  indicator stealer is coming to town.&nbsp; </FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't recall begging (and certainly not 
  "bagging").&nbsp; I have politely asked for formula help.&nbsp; Thanks to 
  Adam, Philip, Don, Matthew, Walter, and&nbsp;many others that have helped me 
  string together the logic that I weave into my mechanical approaches.&nbsp; 
  Without your help, I couldn't be blatantly screwing the public.&nbsp; I've 
  always tried to give more than I take.&nbsp; Obviously, you don't 
  agree.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think maybe the "Fibonacci thing" sent you into 
  an irreversible disliking for my plagiaristic ways.&nbsp; By the way Mr. 
  Decimal Point, just for the record, here's a plagiarized passage about how 
  Fibonacci (don't you think he was cute?) introduced&nbsp;the Hindu-Arabic 
  place-valued decimal system to Europe:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
  <P><I>"Liber abbaci</I>, published in 1202 after Fibonacci's return to Italy, 
  was dedicated to Scotus. The book was based on the arithmetic and algebra that 
  Fibonacci had accumulated during his travels. The book, which went on to be 
  widely copied and imitated, introduced the Hindu-Arabic place-valued decimal 
  system and the use of Arabic numerals into Europe. Indeed, although mainly a 
  book about the use of Arab numerals, which became known as algorism, 
  simultaneous linear equations are also studied in this work". 
</P></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>By the way Ton,&nbsp; the spring rains have come 
  to Cedar Creek and I suggest you move accusatory butt to higher ground.&nbsp; 
  If you continue to swill in the muck, near the river bottom, you're going to 
  be "up the creek without a paddle".&nbsp; I once said that "Ton was 
  God".&nbsp; Today, I can still say it, but I must add:&nbsp;"Ton is God, 
  Godzilla".</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Take care,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A 
  href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE 
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    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    A.J. Maas 
    </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Metastock-List</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 15, 2000 5:20 
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Flip it good.</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Must be Flipped!! Coco Loco!!.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I'm disapointed in you.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Whereas over the past 2 years you have been bagging the 
    List on your knees </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>to provide you with all sorts of formulas and also begged 
    and pleaed to the List</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>down on </FONT><FONT size=2>your knees&nbsp;to help you 
    with the reading of and interpreting of and</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>providing of all sorts of&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
    size=2>information&nbsp;for developping of your&nbsp;own&nbsp;version 
    variants,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>you are now </FONT><FONT size=2>turning your shrude 
    commercial back.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>All that is also made available in the "Everything you've 
    always wanted to know</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>about Bollinger Bands"-mail of which an update was send 
    lately (see below for</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>a short mail-discussion on the %B oscillator at that time 
    in&nbsp;1998).</DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>To what I have seen so far from mails that 
    you've&nbsp;send can only tell that you</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>are the List's greatest Plagiarism-ist.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>If it was not for raping (in Name) the CMO, an indicator 
    +&nbsp;spinoff varaints that are</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>widely described </FONT><FONT size=2>in&nbsp;his Chande's 
    book, than it was for the custom Linnear</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Regression(Formula) </FONT><FONT size=2>and </FONT><FONT 
    size=2>DMI(Formula) </FONT><FONT size=2>and </FONT><FONT size=2>their 
    variants that I've send, and thus now</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>lately </FONT><FONT size=2>for the raping </FONT><FONT 
    size=2>in Name (apart from bending the original </FONT><FONT size=2>name, a 
    histogram to</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>represent an </FONT><FONT size=2>indicator that is 
    </FONT><FONT size=2>expressed in bars within a border limited price 
    </FONT><FONT size=2>scale) </FONT><FONT size=2>and</DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Formula&nbsp;(also apart from the typo's in that formula) 
    for </FONT><FONT size=2>the 20+ years</DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>ago by John </FONT><FONT size=2>Bollinger's described 
    &lt;based on the bands&gt; </FONT><FONT size=2>%B oscillator.</DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Over the past years all of the set of original formulas 
    for the above have all been posted</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>to the List, and </FONT><FONT size=2>all you have 
    </FONT><FONT size=2>had to do at that time was (and what you've done 
    is)</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Copy + Paste.</DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>
    <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT size=2>In my next mail have again included 
    the&nbsp;original standard %B. </FONT></FONT><FONT size=2>All that too is 
    also been</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>made available </FONT><FONT size=2>in the</DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>"Everything you've always wanted to know </FONT><FONT 
    size=2>about Bollinger Bands"-mail</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>of which </FONT><FONT size=2>a revised&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
    size=2>update was send lately.&nbsp;It will also show your 
    pleas.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Cheap, cheap, cheap PLAGIARISM (Formulas) + RAPE (Formula 
    Names).</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Sure the CMT-course has thaught and learned you to parrot, but 
    plagiarism + rape, I cannot</DIV>
    <DIV>remember to having seen&nbsp;that&nbsp;in this very low leveled 
    course.</DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I appriciate seeing any one's viewpoint or possitve 
    developments or positive discussions, but</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>cannot </FONT><FONT size=2>stand seeing crap {also the 
    reason why I quit that mediocre course}.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>The&nbsp;cedar creek must be a long time ago dried up 
    creek, not for trading practises,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>but for originality, spirit&nbsp;and 
    inspiration.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Either that, or (expression wise) "This List's success, 
    and your succes well derived from </FONT><FONT size=2>it,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>must have gone straight to your head".</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>You've blundered in under-estimating the fact that one 
    pins right through hoaxing&nbsp;facades</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>(on the List + commercialy) one tries&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
    size=2>to build.</DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>You must think of the List, other people or other List 
    members that they are "stupid" or something.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT 
    size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT 
    size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>Not only 
    is that denigrading&nbsp;to the level of the List, but also to its 
    members.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas</DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><A href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT 
    size=2>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><BR><FONT size=2>Dismiss the 
    ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.<BR>Homepage&nbsp; </FONT><A 
    href="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";><FONT 
    size=2>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas</FONT></A></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>=======================================</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
    <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">From: "A.J. Maas" &lt;</FONT><A 
    href="mailto:anthmaas@xxxxxx";><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">anthmaas@xxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">&gt;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">To: &lt;</FONT><A 
    href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>"><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;</FONT></A><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">; "Lionel Issen" &lt;</FONT><A 
    href="mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">&gt;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Cc: "MetaStock-List" &lt;</FONT><A 
    href="mailto:metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">&gt;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Sent: vrijdag 3 april 1998 
    13:21</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Subject: Re: BB 
    histogram</FONT></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">&gt; "Bollinger %B" - formula:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -This 
    indicator can be obtained from&nbsp; </FONT><A 
    href="http://www.equis.com";><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">www.equis.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">&gt; &nbsp; (TechSupport/Formula's extensive 
    "shop").<BR>&gt; -This indicator displayes(=indicates) where the price 
    resides "within"<BR>&gt; &nbsp; the bands' range-width (expressed in a 0 - 
    100 scale-range) and<BR>&gt; &nbsp; on occasion also when it is "outside" 
    the scale-range(&lt;0 or &gt;100)<BR>&gt; -This indicator can also be used 
    as a:<BR>&gt; &nbsp; 1. ob/os-indicator(horizontal lines at 100 and 0 , 
    &gt;100=ob , &lt;0=os)<BR>&gt; &nbsp; 2. pos/neg-oscilator* (horizontal line 
    at 50, pos=&gt;50, neg=&lt;50) <BR>&gt; &nbsp; 2. divergence-indicator(f.i. 
    as oppose to the sec.'s price-indicator)<BR>&gt; &nbsp; 3. (early 
    pre-)signaling trends' peaks/low-indicator(in general:<BR>&gt; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; peak=sell + low=buy)<BR>&gt; &nbsp; 4. 
    ST-buy/sell-indicator(with up- and down crossings of<BR>&gt; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; f.i. its 20 SMA as the tricker-line)&nbsp; 
    <BR>&gt; -This indicator can also be used with:<BR>&gt; &nbsp; A. the 
    "floating" ob/os-zone's-indcators<BR>&gt; &nbsp; B. the 
    bands-width(measuring)-indicators(ratio's,points,percentages) <BR>&gt; 
    <BR>&gt; *To create its oscilator-histogram right-click the indicator's 
    properties<BR>&gt; and change Metastocks' (standard-configured) 
    straight-line(line-pattern)<BR>&gt; to (optionaly-configurable) 
    horizontal-strokes(histogram-pattern).<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Regards,<BR>&gt; Ton 
    Maas.<BR>&gt; </FONT><A href="mailto:Ms-IRB@xxxxxxxxx";><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">Ms-IRB@xxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><BR><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">&gt; (Ps. Wolters Kluwer(WKL-BBNasd) is about(this 
    Apr98 DGR 280) to<BR>&gt; give its next uptrends' BUY-signal with the target 
    set at DGR 360<BR>&gt; (ExRa US$/DGR 2.10-2.20 is then equiv. to US$ 
    165-170) <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -----Oorspronkelijk 
    bericht-----<BR>&gt; Van: Lionel Issen &lt;</FONT><A 
    href="mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">&gt;<BR>&gt; Aan: </FONT><A 
    href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman"> &lt;</FONT><A 
    href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">&gt;<BR>&gt; CC: MetaStock-List &lt;</FONT><A 
    href="mailto:metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">&gt;<BR>&gt; Datum: donderdag 2 april 1998 
    21:03<BR>&gt; Onderwerp: Re: BB histogram<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Try 
    this:<BR>&gt; &gt;Plot as an indicator in its own window<BR>&gt; 
    &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;(the upper band - the lower band)/2<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
    &gt;This will give you the distance from the mean.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
    &gt;There is probably a canned indicator that will give you the 
    equivalent<BR>&gt; &gt;information, try the standard deviation with the same 
    look back period as<BR>&gt; &gt;Bollinger.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;Lionel 
    Issen<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;At 08:01 AM 4/2/98 -0800, Steve Karnish 
    wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;Can anyone help me convert Bollinger Bands into a 
    histogram.&nbsp; I can right<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;click on the indicator and get 
    to "properties" for the indicator...but, I'm<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;lost after 
    that.&nbsp; In this scenario:&nbsp; the mean becomes the zero basis 
    and<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;the standard deviations are parallel (two standard 
    deviations away).&nbsp; Any<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;input would be 
    appreciated.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;Thanks,<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;Steve Karnish<BR>&gt; 
    &gt;&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Lionel Issen<BR>&gt; 
    &gt;lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>=======================================</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>----- Original Message ----- 
    <DIV>From: "Lionel Issen"</DIV>
    <DIV>To: &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;</DIV>
    <DIV>Sent: zaterdag 15 april 2000 0:07</DIV>
    <DIV>Subject: Re: Flip it good.</DIV></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>&gt; Steve:<BR>&gt; I just didn't want to reinvent the wheel.<BR>&gt; 
    Lionel Issen<BR>&gt; <A 
    href="mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxx";>lissen@xxxxxxxxx</A></DIV>
    <DIV>&gt;<BR>&gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; From: Jim Simko 
    &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:jssrvs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>jssrvs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
    To: &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
    Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 4:19 PM<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: Flip it 
    good.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Steve: You must have learned how to 
    make butter in 3rd grade also! Ha!<BR>&gt; &gt; Keep smoke em, Jim<BR>&gt; 
    &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Steve Karnish wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
    Lionel,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; I believe you (or anyone 
    interested) should try to discover whether the<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; simple or 
    "others" are best.&nbsp; I try to provide the list with simple<BR>&gt; &gt; 
    &gt; frameworks for trading, yet it always seems that people want 
    more.&nbsp; I&nbsp;will<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; not give out "all the secrets" 
    that 25 years of daily research have<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; unveiled.&nbsp; 
    Besides, what do I know anyway?&nbsp; I went long the S&amp;P this<BR>&gt; 
    &gt; &gt; morning, I was educated in the Detroit Public Schools, and my 
    brain&nbsp;tissues<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; are deteriorating, as we speak, due to 
    my advancing years.&nbsp; This&nbsp;combination<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; of factors 
    should slow down your enthusiasm for my approach.&nbsp; I 
    publish&nbsp;my<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; trades the day before I initiate 
    them.&nbsp;&nbsp; I believe I owe my friends,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; relatives, 
    and clients the courtesy of withholding the specific formulae<BR>&gt; &gt; 
    &gt; that is responsible for showering their accounts with equity 
    infusions.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Besides, I've signed "intergalactic" contracts 
    with the "big Boyz" that<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; prohibit me from dissemenating 
    the specific information that you are<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; requesting.&nbsp; I 
    hope my contributions are enough.&nbsp; As many forum members<BR>&gt; &gt; 
    &gt; know:&nbsp; clients get invited into the "secret cave" and allowed to 
    look at&nbsp;the<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; "writing on the wall".<BR>&gt; &gt; 
    &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Take care,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Steve 
    Karnish<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Cedar Creek Trading<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <A 
    href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A><BR>&gt; 
    &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; From: Lionel Issen 
    &lt;lissen@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 
    &gt; To: &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
    &gt; &gt; Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 10:12 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: 
    Re: Flip it good.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Steve:<BR>&gt; 
    &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; This is an interesting indicator. Is 
    the simple mov better than the&nbsp;other<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; available 
    (in metastock) mov's.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Lionel Issen<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
    &gt; lissen@xxxxxxxxx<BR>&gt; &gt; 
    &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; From: Steve 
    Karnish &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 
    &gt; &gt; To: &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
    &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:48 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
    Subject: Re: Flip it good.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
    &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; This is not the super-secret, one of a 
    kind, better than all the&nbsp;rest,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <FONT 
    face="Times New Roman">&gt; &gt; </FONT>CCT&nbsp;Bollinger Band Histogram, 
    but basically there is not much<BR>&gt; <FONT face="Times New Roman">&gt; 
    &gt; &gt; &gt; </FONT>difference.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 
    &gt; &gt; &gt; ((C+2*Std(C,20)-Mov(C,20,S))/(4*(Std(C,20)))*100)<BR>&gt; 
    &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; If you want the modified 
    version, email me privately and I'll tell&nbsp;you<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
    &gt; where&nbsp;to send the unmarked bills.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
    &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Steve Karnish<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
    Cedar Creek Trading<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <A 
    href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A><BR>&gt; 
    &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
    From: rbox &lt;jrbox@xxxxxxx&gt;<BR>&gt; 
    &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; To: &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
    &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 6:17 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
    &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: Flip it good.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
    &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Steve, could you please 
    post the formula<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; for the CCT Bollinger Band 
    Histogram?<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks a 
lot!</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: "Al Taglavore" <altag@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: Money Management Stops
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:19:43 -0500
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Status:   

Don't think so.  What is to say that of the 30% that is wrong, those trades
could not be consecutive (700 winners, 300 losers)?  For my trading, I
always recognize that I have a 50/50 chance of sucess/failure on any trade.
 There is a probability that, based on past results,  a methodology will
produce a win factor of 70%, but each trade is an independent transaction.

Al Taglavore
----------
> From: Michel Amelinckx <Michel.Amelinckx@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Money Management Stops
> Date: Monday, April 17, 2000 7:34 AM
> 
> Thanks for helping me out here.  I guess my explanation was not very
> understandable. And the example of the roulette table was even worse
> actually it was WRONG because of course you still have the 0, so this was
> WRONG.
> What I just tried to say, like described here below is if you have a
system
> with 70% prob. (of course these statistics are as good as you test them)
and
> your system shows 4 or more LOSES IN A ROW. And because of this it is
> deviating from your mean and thus the prob. of the next trade being
correct
> is higher. (There is of course a change that your system stops working at
> that point)
> Is this incorrect ?
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Mickey
> B
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lionel Issen
> > Sent: vrijdag 14 april 2000 5:05
> > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Money Management Stops
> >
> >
> > Ug:
> >
> > You are correct.  Feller showed in his statistics books that,
> > while it is
> > rare, you can have a long string of heads (or tails). Each toss is
> > independent of the other.  Even if a system is 75% correct,
> > you can have a
> > long string of losing trades. There are times when nothing
> > seems to work and
> > other times when anything seems to work.
> > Lionel Issen
> > lissen@xxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <ug@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 4:21 PM
> > Subject: RE: Money Management Stops
> >
> >
> > > Michel Amelinckx writes:
> > >
> > > > Same thing with roulette, they hate me in the casinos because if I
> > > > play roulette I play on red and black. I wait till red
> > (black)past 3
> > > > or 4 times in a row and then play on the other colour. And the
> > > > longer you wait, like 5 or 6 times on red (black) the higher the
> > > > probability the next will be the other colour. Although 6
> > times the
> > > > same colour is very rare. And this they don't like in casinos.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If a coin tossed comes up heads 4 times in a row, what's
> > the chance it
> > > will be tails next time?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If a system is 50% wins, and you lose 4 in a row, what't
> > the chance of
> > > a winning trade next time?
> > >
> > >
> > > Given that each trade is independent of the others, which I
> > THINK you
> > > are in agreement with, the above 2 are the same situation, so why
> > > would you say one is 50% and one is 99?
> >
> >