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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: Peter E. Gialames <<A
href="mailto:investor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>investor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: <<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: April 19, 2000 11:10 PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Real Time Data from
Excel</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> I know that this has been discussed before but
...<BR>> <BR>> I have MS Pro 6.2 (have only used it for EOD analysis so
far) and can<BR>> receive real time data through MS Excel (via VBA app
written to translate<BR>> Datek Streamer feed through QuoteTracker - alot of
work, but it's free!).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>Free for listmembers Peter
?</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>Thanks in
advance</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>TheoL</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>> <BR>> How can I get the data from Excel
into Metastock?<BR>> <BR>> Thanks in advance,<BR>> Peter
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: Augustin Bataille <<A
href="mailto:Jean.Bataille@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>Jean.Bataille@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: <<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: April 18, 2000 3:07 PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Dead Cat bounce</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> About the Dead Cat Bounce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>Augustin
:</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>I did study that article a time
ago and tested my system on the</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>related stocks : IMHO : a
good system never gets into that sort</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>of situations and should be long
out before this happens.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>(of course no system is perfect
but yes : my system was out in</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM> all the mentioned
stocks).</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>Greetings from Belgium (nee ik
ben geen Belg).</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#008080
face=Arial><STRONG><EM>TheoL.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>> <BR>> What we have seen friday isn't a
dead cat...imho.<BR>> The dead cat bounce seems to be much more a stock
related event than a market<BR>> related one.<BR>> The Author of the
S&C article suggests that the dead cat bounce is to be<BR>> explained
with fundamental events.<BR>> The doubts about the former valuation of the
tech stocks is not a real<BR>> "fundamental shift", as it is much more
dealing with market psychology and mass<BR>> effect than new financials
standards. What happened on friday looks more on an<BR>> event
affecting the broad market.<BR>> By the way, I am not sure the volume was
that high in comparison to the<BR>> previous, also agitated/volatile
days.<BR>> I have also noted that most of the hammered stocks had already
declined quite<BR>> severely the days/weeks before, which doesn't seem to
match the dead cat bounce<BR>> hypothesis.<BR>> I think it is important to
remember that the market often corrects its excesses<BR>> (tough sometimes in
the other directions).<BR>> Another question is to know whether we are at the
start (who knows?) of a<BR>> medium term bear market, or whether just
some stocks would be affected (however<BR>> did the dow/S&P also fall on
friday).<BR>> <BR>> I am very impatient to read your comments...<BR>>
<BR>> AB<BR>> Augustin Bataille<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Jim Greening
wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > Guy,<BR>> >
Looks to me like today was stronger than a "dead cat" bounce, but that<BR>>
> may be wishful thinking also <G>. I'm going to download my
stock data and<BR>> > look at the charts and then will nibble on one or
two positions. I think we<BR>> > are a long way from being "out of
the woods", but today sure did look<BR>> > hopeful.<BR>> ><BR>>
> JimG<BR>> ><BR>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> >
From: "Guy Tann" <<A
href="mailto:grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>> > To: <<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>>
> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 10:07 PM<BR>> > Subject: RE: New Buy
Signal<BR>> ><BR>> > > Well I already own a few of those. I
bought JDSU when it was way down<BR>> > > Friday as well as a couple of
others. I think we might seen a dead cat<BR>> > > bounce here,
but that may be wishful thinking. Meanwhile the guru on the<BR>> >
> mount says he's got a buy for Monday.<BR>> > ><BR>> > >
Guy<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > -----Original
Message-----<BR>> > > From: <A
href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>>
> [<A
href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>]On<BR>>
> > Behalf Of Jim Greening<BR>> > > Sent: Saturday, April 15,
2000 11:11 AM<BR>> > > To: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>> >
> Subject: Re: New Buy Signal<BR>> > ><BR>> > >
Guy,<BR>> > > I hear you, but I'm sure
going to try to do better <G>. I've been<BR>> > > trying to
figure out what to do from here. All my indicators tell me the<BR>>
> > bear is here, but my gut tells me that we just have to be near a
bottom.<BR>> > > The economy is just too good for a sustained bear
market.<BR>> > > Therefore I decided to
pour over the charts and look for industry<BR>> > > leaders in good
sectors with good revenue and earnings growth. I also<BR>> > >
wanted stocks that were right at support levels. I came up with
AMAT,<BR>> > AOL,<BR>> > > JDSU, MSFT, QLGC, RDC, RFMD, and
SCH. I had to fudge on earnings a little<BR>> > > with JDSU, but
its prospects are good <G>. I'll post their charts to my<BR>>
> web<BR>> > > site <A
href="http://www.geocities.com/jimginva/";>http://www.geocities.com/jimginva/</A>
later today.<BR>> > > My thought is to
sit and watch Monday and see what happens. Then<BR>> > later<BR>>
> > in the week if it looks promising, I'd nibble on one or two of those
that<BR>> > > looked like they had turned up but were still close to
their stops so my<BR>> > > risk would be low. I'll continue with
that strategy until the dust<BR>> > clears.<BR>> > ><BR>> >
> JimG<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ----- Original Message
-----<BR>> > > From: "Guy Tann" <<A
href="mailto:grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>> > > To:
<<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>>
> > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:49 PM<BR>> > > Subject: RE:
New Buy Signal<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > >
JimG<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > If we didn't second guess our
rules, we wouldn't be human. We still<BR>> > > haven't<BR>>
> > > learned. :)<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > >
Guy<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > >
-----Original Message-----<BR>> > > > From: <A
href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>>
> > [<A
href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>]On<BR>>
> > > Behalf Of Jim Greening<BR>> > > > Sent: Friday, April
14, 2000 3:11 PM<BR>> > > > To: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>> >
> > Subject: Re: New Buy Signal<BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
> Guy,<BR>> > > > Nope, you have to
stick to your system. You've been doing a much<BR>> > > >
better job of that then I have been lately. I got hurt more on
this<BR>> > > > pullback then I should have by second guessing on
some stops and not<BR>> > > leaving<BR>> > > > as soon as I
should have. I also entered some positions too far away<BR>> >
from<BR>> > > > my stops and accepted more risk than was
necessary. Both no, nos in my<BR>> > > > system. Maybe
I'll learn one of these days <G>.<BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
> JimG<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > ----- Original Message
-----<BR>> > > > From: "Guy Tann" <<A
href="mailto:grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>> > > >
To: <<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 6:37 AM<BR>> > > >
Subject: RE: New Buy Signal<BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
><BR>> > > > > Oops.... Should I have
waited?????<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > > Guy<BR>>
> > > ><BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > >
-----Original Message-----<BR>> > > > > From: <A
href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>>
> > > [<A
href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>]On<BR>>
> > > > Behalf Of Guy Tann<BR>> > > > > Sent: Friday,
April 14, 2000 12:26 AM<BR>> > > > > To: Metastock User
Group<BR>> > > > > Subject: New Buy Signal<BR>> > > >
><BR>> > > > > List,<BR>> > > > ><BR>> >
> > > I know that everyone has been waiting for this :) but we're going
long<BR>> > > on<BR>> > > > > Friday. Ta
Taaaaa<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > > Let the games
begin. We'll be buying S&P futures as well as the<BR>> > >
following<BR>> > > > > stocks. My brother and I spent 3
hours tonight picking these babies,<BR>> > so<BR>> > > I<BR>>
> > > > hope they don't disappoint. We are not jumping in with
both feet<BR>> > > though.<BR>> > > > > Playing
cautious. I originally started buying more, but went back and<BR>> >
> > > changed my orders so that I will be only 25% invested (of
available<BR>> > > margin<BR>> > > > > funds). I
figure, this way I limit my risk if my signal is wrong, and<BR>> > >
> also<BR>> > > > > provide myself with an opportunity to buy
more should the market look<BR>> > > > good.<BR>> > > >
><BR>> > > > > Here is the list of stocks we're
buying:<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > > TER<BR>> >
> > > ATML<BR>> > > > > INTC<BR>> > > > >
LLTC<BR>> > > > > HLIT<BR>> > > > > SFA<BR>>
> > > > TXN<BR>> > > > > QCOM<BR>> > > >
> AMCC<BR>> > > > > ORCL<BR>> > > > >
HWP<BR>> > > > > IBM<BR>> > > > > CSCO<BR>>
> > > ><BR>> > > > > We've tried to spread our
exposure in those groups we're most<BR>> > > comfortable<BR>> >
> > > with. Heavy exposure to the semi conductors, etc.<BR>>
> > > ><BR>> > > > > Anyway, I would like to think
that now that we're in agreement with<BR>> > > Steve<BR>> > >
> K.<BR>> > > > > and JimG, we're all in sync. Maybe
working together we can stop this<BR>> > > > slide,<BR>> >
> > > at least for a while. :)<BR>> > > > ><BR>> >
> > ><BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > >
Guy<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > ><BR>> > >
> ><BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> <BR>>
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Subject: RE: (Market) Jul Corn
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class=640330002-20042000>Adam,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=640330002-20042000>For
what it's worth, my analysis of July Corn has me waiting to go short
fairly soon (a few days to a week from now).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On
Behalf Of</B> Adam Hefner<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 19, 2000 6:35
PM<BR><B>To:</B> metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> (Market) Jul
Corn<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Since corn has reversed back up and remaining in
the congestion area</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2> I will exit the corn sell
signal tomorrow with a MIT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>at 235.1 (provided that is hit before my buy stop
at 239.5). Not sure this is the best way to handle it but if my MIT is
hit</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I will take a little .05 cent loss, if my stop is
hit..a 5 cent loss. Comments anyone?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Adam</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Arial><STRONG><EM>The club are the ones who join
me in this trade.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#008080
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: <<A
href="mailto:whardy@xxxxxxx";>whardy@xxxxxxx</A>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: <<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: April 20, 2000 1:30 AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: RE: stockpick : QTRN (19/04/2000) part
6.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> What's the club? And what is
it about? Trading stock picks?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > ** Original
Subject: RE: stockpick : QTRN (19/04/2000) part 6.<BR>>
> ** Original Sender: "Theo E.M. Lockefeer" <<A
href="mailto:sky40912@xxxxxxxxx";>sky40912@xxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>> > **
Original Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:33:42 -0500 (CDT)<BR>> <BR>> > **
Original Message follows... <BR>> <BR>> ><BR>> > List,<BR>>
> <BR>> > where are we now ? (19/04/2000)<BR>> >
<BR>> > 1) NASDAQ: I think it's very well
possible<BR>> > that we will see
a pull back (or down) day today.<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> 2) the position : for those who still own it :<BR>>
> down 11% (from 15 15/16).<BR>>
> down 10,5%<BR>>
> down 7 % <BR>>
> if Reuters Data is
reliable......<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> Stoploss level $13.50.<BR>>
> System tells we are still in a buy phase............<BR>>
> <BR>> > We
probably had a breakout yesterday so:<BR>> > you still can
join for a possible winning trade.<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
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> <BR>> > QTRN : (18/04/2000) $ 14.88.<BR>>
> <BR>> > HOLD-9 is the situation. (Buy
still possible).<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > SL :
$13.50 (no change).<BR>> > <BR>> >
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> <BR>> > <BR>> > Comments : Welcome.<BR>>
> <BR>> > Anyone joined the club ?<BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > Theo Lockefeer<BR>> > <BR>> >
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> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> <BR>>
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Status:
I think Adam's question pertains not so much as to what our opinions of the corn
market are, but more to the point of: How to handle your system when you
perceive in you're in a loser. The first assumption is really the trickiest:
are you really in a loser? Maybe the current action is still within the
parameters of acceptable behavior. The second is a guideline I find best to
follow whether you can really determine if you're system has triggered you into
a loser or not, and that's the following:
If the current action did not turn out to be what is typical for your system in
this particular set-up or pattern, then it's telling you it's wrong. The
default is always that you start out wrong until the market tells you you're
right. Otherwise, we all have a tendency to use a system to trigger us into a
position, then when it's performance surprises us and threatens our stop--but
hasn't yet hit it--we re-analyse our way into feeling comfortable. By doing so,
we're really in a new position. If your system would not have gotten you into
this new position, and in fact, exists outside of your system's catalogue of
triggers, then why are you in it?
Adam, you may or may not survive this position without getting stopped out. The
question is: what are you learning about your system that can be repeated when
this happens in the future? Will you turn to further analysis outside your
system's rules that may be easily rationalized, or do you exit with the smallest
loss possible and look for your next trigger within the system you're trying to
perfect?
Please keep these new posts coming. I hope to go to school on what you learn
to. I think you're onto to something good....
Scheier
j seed wrote:
> Adam,
> I would agree. Too much congestion here and you're likely to get whipsawed
> to death. Lateral market moves won't make you much profit. My indicators are
> telling me to look for a buying op. at this point. Now, maybe I missed it
> but would like to know what you're using for indicators. I'm use Gann HiLo
> and Zero Lag MA from guppy along with CCI and RVI.
>
> J.
>
> >From: "Adam Hefner" <vonhef@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: (Market) Jul Corn
> >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:34:47 -0500
> >
> >
> >Since corn has reversed back up and remaining in the congestion area I will
> >exit the corn sell signal tomorrow with a MIT
> >at 235.1 (provided that is hit before my buy stop at 239.5). Not sure this
> >is the best way to handle it but if my MIT is hit
> >I will take a little .05 cent loss, if my stop is hit..a 5 cent loss.
> >Comments anyone?
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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