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<DIV><FONT size=2>> I must say that your letter has encouraged me....It's
comforting to know that I am not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>> the only one who has spent long hours trying to learn
this business. In fact I now understand</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>> (after reading your letter) that it could take me
many more years of study</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-----snip------</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Yep. And also going through the inevitable times of
excellent beautifull gains and times of heartbreakin' losses.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>This since that it is all part of this thing you do :
merchandising (eg investing trading).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> Now
like any good professional commercial merchandiser's spirit would
do:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
****** is not to cut your losses, but to prevent in making them(losses)
*****</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>That can be easy achieved in many ways, of which TA is only
one (but also a BIG one) of the many ways available.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Go for the winners(by filtering) and stay the hell away from
the "unknown" gambles. And like Bill & Fleetwood Mac</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>sang: "Go your own way", thus also filtering out the heaps of
trash information that is around you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>That filtering out the SHIT should be, eg no
IS (at the) top (of the) priority(-list).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>> Thanks for the tip on the
Edwards&Maggee book, I will put that on my list to buy. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>> I agree with you that who writes an expert isn't the
issue, but to use the best one possible is</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>> the main goal....and I understand that was the
reason you posted your reply to J Seed. But</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>> J. was referring to the Expert that I mailed to you
yesterday...not my old one (yours is probably</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>> still better than my new one).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I was replying to the thread "in general", to you+J+all
and not to J in particular. Tho, visualy the coloring of bars
is</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>of great visual effect, I do not find it of great
practical(read: warning+informative) effect.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>This since it(this coloring) is trend following,
eg coming AFTER, instead of looking ahead or telling anything
differently</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>eg thus being of "warning+informative" nature.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Using the many 'experts' that have been created, eg the
many indicators(+sytems) on and off List, can be of much</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>better value + help to one's filter(see
above). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>> Ton, have you posted your system? If you have, I
apologies for</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>> not remembering, but the main code I can remember is your
Fractional Levels.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>What expert system you refer to? The Basic Momentum, is the
ST-IMT system signals that I continuesly regurlarly</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>post to the List (Diamantiferous), of which I think knowing it
now as the Bias Momentum (in stead of Basic</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Momentum BM) would be better
covering its workload.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Also the next up Coppock and RSIderivative(a more aggressive
RSI) experts have been (re-)posted recently.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The Decimal Fractions Retracements are statistic measures, and
cannot be classified as being an expert as such.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>They help tracing the overall trader's phsycologic in markets,
but cannot prefent ending up holding the
loosing sticks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>at the end of a Trade.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The levels are more to be seen as guides to possible
targets(S&R) for trader's price barriers, not
for natural</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>human price barriers. Trends of late have clearly shown
the diverence between Trending markets(where people hold</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>on to their positions much longer) and sideways/down
corrective markets, where more (short term) trading activity</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>is taking place.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>> I have also attached a chart to a word.doc...is this what
you suggest (seems a little large)?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Yep, except that for some reason the JPEG format is being used
(use JPEG for "scanned images(like photo's" only)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>and (use GIF or PNG for "plain images"), most likely since
that the image file stems from the use of another program.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Off List I have posted you the methods with example images
packed into a Word file(doc.132 kB), which you should</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>then Open in Word and then also "Save as HTML", so as to
get the images out as seperate GIFs and a HTML file</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>that you can use as Mail's wallpaper, eeh stationairy
!!.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas<BR></FONT><A
href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT
size=2>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><BR><FONT size=2>Dismiss the ".nospam"
bit (including the dot) when replying.<BR>Homepage </FONT><A
href="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";><FONT
size=2>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas</FONT></DIV></A></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=2><FONT size=3>You
Wrote:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>I was replying to the thread "in general", to you+J+all and not to J
in particular. Tho, visualy the coloring of bars is</DIV>
<DIV>of great visual effect, I do not find it of great practical(read:
warning+informative) effect.</DIV>
<DIV>This since it(this coloring) is trend following, eg coming
AFTER, instead of looking ahead or telling anything differently</DIV>
<DIV>eg thus being of "warning+informative" nature.</DIV>
<DIV>Using the many 'experts' that have been created, eg the many
indicators(+sytems) on and off List, can be of much</DIV>
<DIV>better value + help to one's filter(see above). </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>You are correct that this is a trend FOLLOWING
indicator, and yes this indicator gives no warning</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>of future action,</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=3>
but it is NOT supposed to. It IS NOT used to determine a trade signal, it is
used to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>determine rules for trades.</FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=3> Many formulas work good in trending markets but
poor in congestion,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>others ( such as momentium
oscilllators)</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=3> work great in congestion, but
poor in trends. Does the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>Coppuck curve or RSI give signals that are wrong?
Do you use one indicator to base trades on?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>Do you use trend lines or channels? If so,
do these lines need a history, before you can draw them?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>Seems that many people use historical methods
to analyze with (regardless if it is looking ahead or not).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>Channels eventually fail, and so do trends. My
point is that we BOTH use methods that give market</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>direction. To dismiss something
because you see know value in it is fine, but to say it has no
value</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>because It cant be used a certain
way....could be narrow minded. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3> Adam Hefner</FONT></DIV>
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A.J. Maas:
Any pertinent parts of this so called pearl of wisdom should have been sent
directly to whoever you had in mind.
Lionel Issen
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----- Original Message -----
From: A.J. Maas <anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Metastock-List <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Ton's Babble
> I was going to report you via sending the below printed mail to the
respective list-account owners,
> until I realised that I haven't done a proper search to your List
contributions of late.
>
> It seems that once (!) a year you have the urge to post a valuable
contribution
> (for easy reference have ommited the few (niks) mails that you've sent
later that+this year).
>
> 19990616 - Price/RSI divergence (W.Wilder) {a valuable mail-with-GIF
example post}
> 19990617 - Volatility Bands (C.Brown) {a post that can go straight onto
the huge pile of
> "have
been there/seen it" theories posts}
>
> Since it was due again, eg its near June 2000 now, how come this time
around a true
> degrading post was send and not (like before), a new true fresh valuable
contribution
> was posted? Have you lost it lately?
> Have the markets swept you of your "filty priced" Advanced-No-Get feet?
>
> The list is provided for the discussioning of MSK and market actions
related stuff, eg
> the -serious- investment and program related stuff, and when members can
also
> stick + keep their disciplines of not using the List for chatbox
exchanging activeties, eg
> for their arti-farty magical fairy brabbles (for that many other lists are
available of which
> a search for the MontiCarlo/TimeWarner/Walt Disney-lists and the likes
would have
> suited their needs far better, than most likely you wouldn't have had to
sink so deep.
> But, chin up..............there will always come new investments(trades)
to gain from.
> If you can't hack the "big boys" stuff, than settle for the advices made
by your bank advisor.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------
>
> The sewer hitchcock seems to have returned and it now has a
name................
>
> Last time you spammed (privately) MSN Hotmail confirmed the account kill,
but obviously
> the bacteries must have spread prior+widely. Now AOL hosts its new
account.
> Which ISP is next?
>
> Since you are now also directly spamming the MSK List, than I would like
to suggest
> the List owner to take the nescessary steps to have your address be
removed from the MSK list.
> As well as that Abuse @ AOL should note that it again hosts another
spammer.
>
> bcc - MSK List owner
> bcc - Abuse AOL
>
> Regards,
> Ton Maas
> ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.
> Homepage http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ROSOW@xxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: vrijdag 5 mei 2000 3:39
> Subject: Ton's Babble
>
>
> > In a message dated 05/04/2000 9:12:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > anthmaas writes:
> >
> > > Next up will be the discussions on
> > > 1) The Casino Methods+Levels
> > > 2) Trading Astrology by the Stars
> > > 3) The Fibinancy Mother Nature Miracles
> > > 4) Market Highs + Lows by Mechnatic Power of Tidal Waves
> > > And then ofcourse, not to forget,
> > > 5) The Uranium Internal Friction Power in Australia.
> > >
> > > Perhaps the daily received Weather Forecasts should be translated,
WFC
> > > indicator, now for MetaStock.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ton Maas
> >
> > Ton,
> > Any of the above would be more refreshing then your babble. Do you
trade?
> > Get a life - Lenny
> >
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <the_savant@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ms-irb>
> Sent: zaterdag 15 april 2000 2:57
> Subject: SICK OF YOUR FUCKING BABBLE
>
>
> > YOU GOT YOUR ASS HANDED TO YOU ON YOUR SP TRADE STUPID!
> >
> > I HAVE SEEN IDIOTSLIKE YOU COME AND GO...
> >
> > SO NOW GO..AND TAKE YOUR FUCKING MARKET CALLS WITH YOU..
> >
> > IF YOU CONTINUE I WILL REPORT YOU TO THE NFA FOR GIVING ADVICE WITHOUT
BEING
> > A CTA!
> >
> > SHITHEAD..
> > ______________________________________________________
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> >
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