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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>sheesh I really cant believe this everyone
complains when people don't go out of their way and yet when Steve does all he
seems to get for it is grief grief and more grief I for one am
grateful to Steve for his postings and information . I haven't used all of it
but I did find some things very useful I wasn't at the metastock
seminars but would like to hear about them if Steve has the time and
interest but come on folks lets get off his case
</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve
Karnish</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 01, 2000 11:26
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Enough whining from "Me too
and the Gimmee-gimmees"</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paula,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I accept your apology. The system was
offered to everyone on this forum and anyone who asked kindly. I gave
out rules, regs, and formulas to all non-weiners & non-whiners. I've
conducted eight seminars in the past two weeks in Vancouver, Seattle, SF and
San Jose. The seminars were all "free". And again, the information
was disseminated for free. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Many seminar attendees have informed me that the
seminar "changed their trading approach". Kudos continue to roll
in. I was supported in the field by six Equis employees and many of them
are now using my "signature" approach to trade their portfolios in the
equities markets. In fact, Equis modeled my presentation and
used it in an additional 16 seminars during the last few weeks.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am a self promoting, entrepreneurial,
sarcastic, system designing, trader who appreciates equity. I've given a
"whole bunch" over the years. Reviewing your contributions during the
past year reveals that you are on the "demand" side of the forum and not
the "supply" side. Paula, if you can name one of your contributions (to
the list) or supply the forum with some knowledge that will help anyone trade
in the future...I will consider supplying you with this "free"
information. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I guess as soon as I start charging (the big
bucks), folks like you will line up. "If the seminar cost 5k, it
must me great". Why don't you wait for my $495 MetaStock add-on
package. It will be out soon and you can have the distinction
of purchasing the first "box". </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Again, thanks for the apology...at least you
realize that something might have slipped by your critical eyes. Many of
my "content" posts are public at Daryl Guppy's site. Also, Paritech (the
Austrailian trainning company) will be using my approach in twelve
training sessions, in July and August, in the western states. And,
I'll be on the road this fall with FREE seminars in the southeast (North and
South Carolina). Current password holders, at my site, will enjoy a nice
"free ride" when recommendations become "pay-for-view" (within the
month). During the past three years, many people (on this forum) have
contributed to my overall efforts and these folks will be rewarded handsomely
during the next few months. I'll be waiting for your next contribution
(criticism).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leaving for Montana (something to do about a
"dental floss farm"),</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:hotair003@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=hotair003@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Paula</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 01, 2000 7:47
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Enough with the Teaser email
from CCT</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi: </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I am missing the point of
these types of messages to the group. If you are going to post these types
of results from some seminar then why don't you give all everyone on the
Metastock list the same systems extended in the seminar. Perhaps many
members of the group have not had seminars in their area etc and could not
avail themselves of your services.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> If there is a fee for these
systems then tell people you are charging for this,but don't just throw it
up there and let people flounder.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I just returned from a very costly
but worthwhile seminar where proprietary trading info was given. The
trader giving the seminar made us pay for this info and has left it at
that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Either tell people results,offer
them the info or give them the option to pay for the systems or don't
bother. Just my opinion on this type of list to the group. If I have missed
posting of the systems I apologize,If not...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paula</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve
Karnish</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 30, 2000 5:19
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: EMINI BUY</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Guy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Good luck next week. I'm off to Montana
to enjoy some fresh water fishing, sailing, and boating. Lake
Flathead is the largest body of freshwater west of the
Mississippi...but, I mere "splash in the bucket" compared to what we
are used to. When I return, I will tell you about the eight seminars
I conducted. The emails continue to roll in...here's a teaser from
this morning:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"On June 17, 2000 I attended the MetaStock
training session and received a<BR>floppy disk with two of you trading
systems on it. As well hearing you<BR>explain your trading system to
the group. I have traded your system using<BR>your formulas in
MetaStock and you Internet picks for the last seven trading<BR>days.
The results have been great with a $14,536.42 profit from the
stock<BR>market so far. "</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Happy 4th,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
Guy Tann
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 30, 2000 2:19
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: EMINI BUY</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle17><FONT color=navy face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Steve,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle17><FONT color=navy face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle17><FONT color=navy face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">I
hope you’re right.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We’re
long from 1467 and 1471, but that doesn’t concern me as much as my
equity positions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>While I’m
not margined, I was still down 10% on these stocks (thanks ValueLine
since our own picks did better than ValueLine’s this time).<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I made back one third of my
equity losses today.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Only
need two more days like today and I’ll be more than happy.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those semi stocks finally came
back a tad.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle17><FONT color=navy face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle17><FONT color=navy face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">We’re
running nine out of the last 10 trades correct, with the only loser
being a 2 pointer on our May 9 buy, but that doesn’t include the couple
of big losses we had.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Overall, we’re 16 out of 19 going back to last October, but your
system is substantially different than ours.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We usually never add to our
positions (I say usually because we’ve been known to do it on the equity
side).<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We simply initiate
our positions when we originate our trade and wait for the next signal
in order to reverse.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle17><FONT color=navy face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><!--[if supportFields]><span class=EmailStyle17><font
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12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-element:field-begin'></span><span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail
Signature" <span style='mso-element:field-separator'></span></span></font></span><![endif]--><FONT
color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy">Guy</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT color=navy face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
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<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT color=navy face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Paranoia...you only have to be
right once to make it all worthwhile!</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=black
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Steve
Karnish<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday,
June 30, 2000 8:26 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> EMINI
BUY</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=black
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">List,</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=black
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=black
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Cedar Creek
Trading has issued a "Slow MO" buying signal this morning (for the Sept.
S&P) and filled opening orders in the 1456.5 - 1456.75 range.
This approach is "used by and accounted for" in many trading accounts
and is currently riding a nine trade winning streak.
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=black
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=black
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Steve
Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mr Karnish I realize your
credentials so then why not just post the system to the list
instead of making people come to you and your witicisms and write an essy on why
they deserve it.If the seminars were for free why not make the info freely
available. I'm not being critical at all but I just don't understand all
the crypticness involved.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I have contributed to many individuals in
response to questions etcon this as well as other lists</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but have no systems to offer. I trade off simple
overbought oversold movement ,averages,patterns and timing. My methods are not
rocket science and I don't believe they have to be. Just as when you posted the
mystery oscillator on AMAT and its pattern matched that of a simple 13,8,3
StochRSI.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> My intent is not to get info from you. . I
think these postings many times sound condescending sometimes, as though the new
traders should grovel to get this info.Perhaps I am misinterpreting
them</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I believe you are a "self promoting,
entrepreneurial, sarcastic, system designing, trader who appreciates equity" ,
and thats great. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Good luck with your add on. I'm sure it will
do well . And believe me the distinction is all yours.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paula</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve
Karnish</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 01, 2000 11:26
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Enough whining from "Me too
and the Gimmee-gimmees"</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paula,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I accept your apology. The system was
offered to everyone on this forum and anyone who asked kindly. I gave
out rules, regs, and formulas to all non-weiners & non-whiners. I've
conducted eight seminars in the past two weeks in Vancouver, Seattle, SF and
San Jose. The seminars were all "free". And again, the information
was disseminated for free. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Many seminar attendees have informed me that the
seminar "changed their trading approach". Kudos continue to roll
in. I was supported in the field by six Equis employees and many of them
are now using my "signature" approach to trade their portfolios in the
equities markets. In fact, Equis modeled my presentation and
used it in an additional 16 seminars during the last few weeks.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am a self promoting, entrepreneurial,
sarcastic, system designing, trader who appreciates equity. I've given a
"whole bunch" over the years. Reviewing your contributions during the
past year reveals that you are on the "demand" side of the forum and not
the "supply" side. Paula, if you can name one of your contributions (to
the list) or supply the forum with some knowledge that will help anyone trade
in the future...I will consider supplying you with this "free"
information. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I guess as soon as I start charging (the big
bucks), folks like you will line up. "If the seminar cost 5k, it
must me great". Why don't you wait for my $495 MetaStock add-on
package. It will be out soon and you can have the distinction
of purchasing the first "box". </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Again, thanks for the apology...at least you
realize that something might have slipped by your critical eyes. Many of
my "content" posts are public at Daryl Guppy's site. Also, Paritech (the
Austrailian trainning company) will be using my approach in twelve
training sessions, in July and August, in the western states. And,
I'll be on the road this fall with FREE seminars in the southeast (North and
South Carolina). Current password holders, at my site, will enjoy a nice
"free ride" when recommendations become "pay-for-view" (within the
month). During the past three years, many people (on this forum) have
contributed to my overall efforts and these folks will be rewarded handsomely
during the next few months. I'll be waiting for your next contribution
(criticism).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leaving for Montana (something to do about a
"dental floss farm"),</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:hotair003@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=hotair003@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Paula</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 01, 2000 7:47
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Enough with the Teaser email
from CCT</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi: </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I am missing the point of
these types of messages to the group. If you are going to post these types
of results from some seminar then why don't you give all everyone on the
Metastock list the same systems extended in the seminar. Perhaps many
members of the group have not had seminars in their area etc and could not
avail themselves of your services.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> If there is a fee for these
systems then tell people you are charging for this,but don't just throw it
up there and let people flounder.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I just returned from a very costly
but worthwhile seminar where proprietary trading info was given. The
trader giving the seminar made us pay for this info and has left it at
that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Either tell people results,offer
them the info or give them the option to pay for the systems or don't
bother. Just my opinion on this type of list to the group. If I have missed
posting of the systems I apologize,If not...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paula</FONT></DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve
Karnish</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 30, 2000 5:19
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: EMINI BUY</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Guy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Good luck next week. I'm off to Montana
to enjoy some fresh water fishing, sailing, and boating. Lake
Flathead is the largest body of freshwater west of the
Mississippi...but, I mere "splash in the bucket" compared to what we
are used to. When I return, I will tell you about the eight seminars
I conducted. The emails continue to roll in...here's a teaser from
this morning:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"On June 17, 2000 I attended the MetaStock
training session and received a<BR>floppy disk with two of you trading
systems on it. As well hearing you<BR>explain your trading system to
the group. I have traded your system using<BR>your formulas in
MetaStock and you Internet picks for the last seven trading<BR>days.
The results have been great with a $14,536.42 profit from the
stock<BR>market so far. "</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Happy 4th,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
Guy Tann
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 30, 2000 2:19
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: EMINI BUY</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle17><FONT color=navy face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Steve,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle17><FONT color=navy face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle17><FONT color=navy face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">I
hope you’re right.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We’re
long from 1467 and 1471, but that doesn’t concern me as much as my
equity positions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>While I’m
not margined, I was still down 10% on these stocks (thanks ValueLine
since our own picks did better than ValueLine’s this time).<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I made back one third of my
equity losses today.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Only
need two more days like today and I’ll be more than happy.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those semi stocks finally came
back a tad.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle17><FONT color=navy face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle17><FONT color=navy face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">We’re
running nine out of the last 10 trades correct, with the only loser
being a 2 pointer on our May 9 buy, but that doesn’t include the couple
of big losses we had.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Overall, we’re 16 out of 19 going back to last October, but your
system is substantially different than ours.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We usually never add to our
positions (I say usually because we’ve been known to do it on the equity
side).<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We simply initiate
our positions when we originate our trade and wait for the next signal
in order to reverse.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle17><FONT color=navy face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><!--[if supportFields]><span class=EmailStyle17><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-element:field-begin'></span><span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail
Signature" <span style='mso-element:field-separator'></span></span></font></span><![endif]--><FONT
color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy">Guy</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT color=navy face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT color=navy face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Paranoia...you only have to be
right once to make it all worthwhile!</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><!--[if supportFields]><span class=EmailStyle17><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-element:field-end'></span></span></font></span><![endif]--><SPAN
class=EmailStyle17><FONT color=navy face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=black
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Steve
Karnish<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday,
June 30, 2000 8:26 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> EMINI
BUY</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=black
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">List,</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=black
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=black
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Cedar Creek
Trading has issued a "Slow MO" buying signal this morning (for the Sept.
S&P) and filled opening orders in the 1456.5 - 1456.75 range.
This approach is "used by and accounted for" in many trading accounts
and is currently riding a nine trade winning streak.
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=black
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=black
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Steve
Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT size=2>I, like Steve,
am also proud to be self promoting, and sarcastic. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr>If I ever loose those
characteristics, I'll know that "it" has got the best of me.</DIV>
<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr>Those outward characteristics
to some are a way of saying, "I'm still hanging in there and still surviving". A
self check, so-to-speak.</DIV>
<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr> </DIV>
<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr>Then again there are those
that are plain jerks, that give us a bad name.</DIV>
<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr>Non that I can think of
around here though...:-)</DIV>
<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr>Keep it light.</DIV>
<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr> </DIV>
<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr>James Wolf</DIV>
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<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Paula<BR><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>I believe you are a "self
promoting, entrepreneurial, sarcastic, system designing, trader who
appreciates equity" , and thats great. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Good luck with your add on. I'm sure it
will do well . And believe me the distinction is all yours.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paula</FONT></DIV>
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From: "Nicholas Kormanik" <nkormanik@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Markets Open Monday?
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:48:21 -0600
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Will the markets be open at all on Monday?
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