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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=960443512-08072000>John,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=960443512-08072000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=960443512-08072000>this is the first 
time I realize that a password is needed. I don't have one.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=960443512-08072000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=960443512-08072000>On the download 
page, there is a link to a password request form.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=960443512-08072000>Locate "Diese 
Version benötigt ein <A 
href="http://www.invest-tools.com/form_passwd_mcb.html";><FONT 
color=#000000>Installationspasswort</FONT></A>."</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=960443512-08072000>and click on <A 
href="http://www.invest-tools.com/form_passwd_mcb.html";><FONT 
color=#000000>"Installationspasswort</FONT></A>" - it is written that 
they</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=960443512-08072000>will supply you with 
the password within short time. There</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=960443512-08072000>is no obligation 
associated with giving your name and e-mail-adress.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=960443512-08072000>Only those two are 
mandantory, btw. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=960443512-08072000>The checkbox on the bottom</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=960443512-08072000>of the form indicate 
that you won't receive further information from</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=960443512-08072000>them. Your data is 
not given to third party.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=960443512-08072000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=960443512-08072000>So far for my 
q&amp;d translation. Hope it helps.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=960443512-08072000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=960443512-08072000>Andreas</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=960443512-08072000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>-----Ursprüngliche 
  Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B> owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>Im Auftrag von</B> John 
  Sellers<BR><B>Gesendet am:</B> Freitag, 7. Juli 2000 21:36<BR><B>An:</B> 
  Metastock User Group<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Indexing Program</DIV><BR></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=560205918-07072000>I downloaded this 
  program from <A href="http://www.invest-tools.com";><FONT 
  color=#000000>www.invest-tools.com</FONT></A> and then tried to open the exe 
  file but it asked for a password. Please pass it on if 
  convenient.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=560205918-07072000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=560205918-07072000>Incidentally this 
  site is in German and I went through Altavista which has translation from 
  German to English. This information is given for others like myself who do not 
  read German that also may be interested in pursuing this 
  function.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: "T.E.M. Lockefeer" <sky40912@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: URGENT  reply please !
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:25:25 +0200
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Oorspronkelijk 
  bericht-----</B><BR><B>Van: </B>Simon Roberts &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:Roberts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>Roberts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Aan: 
  </B>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Datum: 
  </B>vrijdag 7 juli 2000 10:22<BR><B>Onderwerp: </B>Re: URGENT reply please 
  !<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Hello T.E.M.,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>TL :&nbsp; Thanks Simon and T.E.M.&nbsp; stands for Theo 
  E.M.,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Good suggestion but I doubt if Sir Christhoper can change 
  this American way of service :</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>if I get angry again : he is my victim i promise you so 
  until then :</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks again and more power to the shareholders 
  !</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Theo.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>P.s :&nbsp; The Gnutella is something special&nbsp; and did 
  you see octopus.com ?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>For my sins I am a reuters 
  shareholder, ( as a sideline they are an e incubator).&nbsp; I have had to 
  cringe in the past at their poor service to members of this list. One 
  </FONT><FONT size=2>tack you could try is speaking to their Chief Executive, 
  Peter Job or their chairman (Sir) Christopher Hogg. The London number, for 
  dialing from England is, 020 7240 1122. Check with your phone co, on the 
  international prefix.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Simon.</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>T.E.M. Lockefeer &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:sky40912@xxxxxxxxx";>sky40912@xxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: </B><A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>06 July 2000 19:35<BR><B>Subject: </B>Fw: URGENT reply please 
    !<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Back from holiday and still no data from reutersdatalink 
    (see problem below please).</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Like earlier : they are SLOW in response to userproblems 
    :</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Can they be reached by phone&nbsp; (international number, 
    not a 800 number).</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Can anybody give any advice ?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Off topic :</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Has anybody tried Gnutella yet ?&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Looks great if you have enough bandwidth.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks friends</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Theo Lockefeer.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Oorspronkelijk 
    bericht-----</B><BR><B>Van: </B>T.E.M. Lockefeer &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:sky40912@xxxxxxxxx";>sky40912@xxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Aan: 
    </B><A 
    href="mailto:support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
    &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Datum: 
    </B>donderdag 6 juli 2000 18:07<BR><B>Onderwerp: </B>Fw: URGENT reply please 
    !<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Oorspronkelijk 
    bericht-----</B><BR><B>Van: </B>T.E.M. Lockefeer &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:sky40912@xxxxxxxxx";>sky40912@xxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Aan: 
    </B><A 
    href="mailto:support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
    &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Datum: 
    </B>donderdag 6 juli 2000 8:28<BR><B>Onderwerp: </B>Fw: URGENT reply please 
    !<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Oorspronkelijk 
    bericht-----</B><BR><B>Van: </B>T.E.M. Lockefeer &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:sky40912@xxxxxxxxx";>sky40912@xxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Aan: 
    </B><A 
    href="mailto:support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
    &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Datum: 
    </B>woensdag 5 juli 2000 7:39<BR><B>Onderwerp: </B>URGENT reply please 
    !<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Dear Reader,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I have been on vacation and before that i had a 
    computercrash.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>when i try to download my reutersdatalinkdata (by the 
    downloader</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Metastock for Windows 6.52) i get a :</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Couldnot receive hostname from host table 
    [11001]</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>error message&nbsp; and no data !</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I am sorry but&nbsp; cannot find my customer number 
    (please let me know)</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks for your reply in advance !</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>T.E.M. Lockefeer.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Waterdreef 67</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Wuustwezel</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Belgium.</FONT></DIV>
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From: Dan Cash <dcash@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Please send info on joining.  I have run into dead ends through web search.

Thanks,
Dan

John Manasco wrote:

> I wish some of you guys would get on the Realtraders forum. They recently
> had a fairly lengthy discussion on the optimal f formula and came to the
> conclusion that it was not only worthless it would almost guarantee ruin if
> implemented at the wrong time. But the better conclusion is to join the
> Realtraders discussion forum as they have some very bright professional
> traders who like to share their knowledge.
>
> John Manasco
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Guy Tann <grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 1:38 AM
> Subject: RE: Risk of ruin, amount per trade formula?
>
> > Thanks Glen.
> >
> > While all three of us have backgrounds in math, statistics and economics,
> we
> > really haven't spent the time necessary to dive into Vince's books.  I
> think
> > that's why my brother took the easy way out and went with Balsara's
> charts.
> > :)
> >
> > Guy
> >
> > Paranoia...you only have to be right once to make it all worthwhile!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of Glen Wallace
> > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 6:49 PM
> > To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Risk of ruin, amount per trade formula?
> >
> > To add to Guy's comments, Ralph Vince's first book, "Portfolio Management
> > Formulas," has a comprehensive chapter on risk of ruin.  His second book,
> > "The
> > Mathematics of Money Management," contains a condensed version of his
> first
> > book in the first chapter, but glosses over risk of ruin.  Both are
> > excellent
> > books and easily the most important books in my bookshelf.  They are not,
> > however, for the mathematically challenged.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Guy Tann" <grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 5:20 PM
> > Subject: RE: Risk of ruin, amount per trade formula?
> >
> > > Sonny and Mike,
> > >
> > > I made an error here.  We bought the following books from Amazon.com:
> > >
> > > The new Money Management by Vince
> > > The Mathematics of Money Management by Vince
> > > Money Management Strategies for Future Traders by Balsara
> > >
> > > The "Risk of Ruin" chart we're using came from the Balsara book
> (according
> > > to my brother).  I'm ordering my own copy.
> > >
> > > I'm sorry if I misled anybody.
> > >
> > > Guy
> >
> >
> >