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RE: Risk of ruin, amount per trade formula?



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Jean Jacques

Based on all of our history (many years), we have a fairly good idea as to
the probability of success or failure of our trades.  Using these numbers,
we do, in fact, put 33% of our capital into initial margin when trading S&P
futures.

Now, my brother used the Balsara book and applied our historical trading
results, and came up with a recommended level of investment (33%), which
will keep the risk of ruin at 0% (which is all I'm prepared to risk).
Again, I'm ordering my own copy of the book so that I might sound a little
more enlightened. :)

We are prepared to lose 100% of our initial margin in any trade, and in fact
our trade ending in early April did just that plus a little.

Now I have a couple of questions.

Why do you say that initial margin is irrelevant in calculating risk of
ruin?  What other number would you use?  In trading futures, and knowing you
have a historical tract record over many years so you're not dealing with a
strictly random sequence of events, how would you determine risk of ruin?

Again, I'll have to refer to one of my other posts where I delineated my
thoughts in more detail.


Guy

Paranoia...you only have to be right once to make it all worthwhile!

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From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
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Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 5:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Risk of ruin, amount per trade formula?

Guy,

I don't get it: what do you mean when you say that you used to be "investing
50% of our capital" and now that you are investing only 30%? Do you mean
that
on each tarde you were ready to lose 50% of you capital? or you were putting
50% of your capital in initial margin (which is irrelevant to calculate the
risk of ruin).

Jean Jacques