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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Songyun, I like your style.........Good 
work</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi my name is Rick. I was wondering if you could 
help me with a little problem I seem to be having with the Bressert Cycle 
download file. Teresa sent me the file as an attachment. I then entered the data 
into Meta stock but it wont do an exploration because the formulas are not in 
the indicator builder. The formula is in the Explorer but how do I get the date 
into the indicator builder?? Walter and Teresa are gone on a 2 week vacation as 
of last night so I cant get&nbsp;in touch with them until they return. I was 
hoping maybe you could help me get this thing up and running. </FONT><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>Your Help would be Much Appreciated</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thank You Very Much</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rick</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  Songyun Fox </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 30, 2000 10:17 
AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: From Songyun - ref. Bressert 
  Cycle 5</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><B><FONT 
  face="Arial Narrow Special G1">HELLO.</FONT></B><B><FONT 
  face="Arial Narrow Special G1"></FONT></B> 
  <P><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1">I wish to thank you for all of your 
  hard work.&nbsp; I can see you did alot of research on the subject of "Cycles" 
  and the other things you got carried away with.</FONT></B><B><FONT 
  face="Arial Narrow Special G1"></FONT></B> 
  <P><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1">But here are a few 
  facts.</FONT></B><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1"></FONT></B> 
  <P><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1">[1] I'am a devoted Metastock fan, 
  have been for years.</FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT 
  face="Arial Narrow Special G1">[2] I don't work for Walt Bressert,&nbsp; but I 
  found this free stuff</FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT 
  face="Arial Narrow Special G1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; on his web 
  site.&nbsp; I tried it,&nbsp; in Metastock;&nbsp; and it "improved"</FONT></B> 
  <BR><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; my 
  trading accuracy and account balance. Use $4,000 per</FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT 
  face="Arial Narrow Special G1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; month start 
  money and I walk away in July with $2,200</FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT 
  face="Arial Narrow Special G1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and I still have 
  my original $4K.&nbsp; So you see.&nbsp; Call it</FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT 
  face="Arial Narrow Special G1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; an Oscillator, 
  Cycle, or anything else.&nbsp; <FONT color=#ff0000>I say if it 
  works</FONT></FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1"><FONT 
  color=#ff0000>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; for me,&nbsp; that is what's 
  important.&nbsp; </FONT><FONT color=#330033>And that's the bottom 
  line.</FONT></FONT></B><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1"><FONT 
  color=#330033></FONT></FONT></B> 
  <P><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1"><FONT color=#330033>Now, why don't 
  you take all your energy.&nbsp; Write a new tech tool</FONT></FONT></B> 
  <BR><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1"><FONT color=#330033>so that all of 
  us can be proud of you.&nbsp; You know, when a tech tool</FONT></FONT></B> 
  <BR><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1"><FONT color=#330033>or software 
  program is not wining.&nbsp; People are smart,&nbsp; they won't buy 
  it.</FONT></FONT></B><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1"><FONT 
  color=#330033></FONT></FONT></B> 
  <P><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1"><FONT color=#330033>That's the 
  end.&nbsp; I don't want to have this conversation 
  again.</FONT></FONT></B><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1"><FONT 
  color=#330033></FONT></FONT></B> 
  <P><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1"><FONT color=#330033>Songyun 
  Fox</FONT></FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1"><FONT 
  color=#330033></FONT></FONT></B>&nbsp; <BR><B><FONT 
  face="Arial Narrow Special G1"><FONT color=#330033></FONT></FONT></B>&nbsp; 
  <BR><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1"></FONT></B>&nbsp; 
  <P>"A.J. Maas" wrote: 
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    <FONT size=-1>Aren't you fooling everyone by sending out that old hat stuff 
    from a mixed up duplicating (CMT) parrot?</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=-1>The site 
    contains nothing more than that what can be found in other "simple" TA 
    books, but of which</FONT><FONT size=-1>their (hype) validity in TA is 
    heavely been debated, doubted &amp; uncovered: i.e. the cycles, fibinionacy 
    and the likes.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=-1>Further you also do not seem to be 
    that familiar with the MetaStock program.</FONT><FONT size=-1>Stochastics, 
    RSI's and EMA's etc.etc have been explained and used and put into many 
    variaties.</FONT><FONT size=-1>Even the switch to Weekly data (eg the "big 
    catch" in your master's Charts) has in length been 
    debated.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=-1>Also in program there is the option for 
    users (thus also for website+software entreponeurs) to write any</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>Expert Advisors themselves, eg this is so since at least v6.0 and 
    also there is nowhere near the obligation</FONT><FONT size=-1>for the Equis 
    Int. firm, to start writing them, wether for any of its casual users nor for 
    businesses, let alone</FONT><FONT size=-1>for any fool that wants to run a 
    software package+website, eg thus also not for sites containing 
    any</FONT><FONT size=-1>simple TA books replications.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT 
    size=-1>Wave-, trend- &amp; market-moves are not Cycles.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT 
    size=-1>Cycles are repetative economical dips(recessions) that are also to 
    be found in the much longer time</FONT><FONT size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    frames, i.e. &gt;1 year, but mainly more, and are envoked by the economical 
    rises &amp; falls in the</FONT><FONT size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    over+over-again re-creation of efficienct operating by world's largest 
    companies in major industrial sectors,</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and therefore later, by the inevitable rises of 
    Prices(inflation) and therfore the bonds Yields(Intrest Rates).</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; E.g. where then a continuous snowballing process 
    is undergone by many of the important economic</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; sectors: when one sector comes down, it drags 
    another related sector with it in the downcollapse,</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and than that 2nd sector will drag a third with 
    it, and so on and so on, until the recession levels are</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; been met, marking the finishing end: the bottom 
    (that's when it is easier for companies to lay of</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; workers and shutdown factories without predicise: 
    the owners + unions + the general public by then</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; will have all been bashed that much and become 
    familiar with the harsh but fair "will to survive, and</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; therefore offerings will have to be made" and are 
    by then thus the (otherwise not) "excepted solutions".</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Heavy Industries(just as an example) first go 
    through a mild-then-heavy phase of lower turnovers,</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; therefore also getting lower revenues, therefore 
    will also have to restructure and eventialy will have</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; to massively lay off workers (to be able to 
    survive) : i.e. the true example of a cyclic stock.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Examples of cyclic stocks are :</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    -the Steel &amp; Iron (Heavy Metal) Industries</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    -the Mining &amp; Resources Industries</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    -the Oil Industry</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    -the Transportation Industry (Freight: Airliners, Sea-containers + 
    Road-trucking)</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    -the Chemical+Pharmacy Industry</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    -the Financial Industry</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    -and of late the Chip Industry etc. etc.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Examples of these cycles are the ones that have 
    occured recently and in the deeper farther past:</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - 1991-1992 (mild and envoked by first the 
    economic tide and second: fired up by the Gulf-war)</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - 1980-1982 (mild and envoked by first the 
    economic tide and second: the drop of the Gold +</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    the collapse of the Housing prices)</FONT><FONT size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - 
    1970-1978 (strong and envoked by first the economic tide and second: fired 
    up by the Oil-crises price rise)</FONT><FONT size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - 
    1929-1945 (heavy and envoked by first the economic tide and second: by the 
    collapse of the</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    stockmarkets and by the continious 2nd WorldWar)</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT 
    size=-1>What's in a name you say? (eg cycles or waves or moves)</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>It is were your basics starts. And were one is easy to be uncovered, 
    could be as a hoax too.</FONT><FONT size=-1>In computer-life this can also 
    be witnessed, eg type in the wrong name, give an enter and the wrong 
    program</FONT><FONT size=-1>gets started. On the web, type in a space or 
    other digit(visable or invisable) and the address will return only 
    errors.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=-1>In efficiency &amp; in accuracy is too 
    were you will find the Top notch of the large bunch of (too simple) 
    offerings.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=-1>Get cracking at the program's default 
    Stochastics and now ALSO switch to Weekly data, like</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>your friend the parrot did, and you will soon find your beloved 
    "discovery".</FONT><FONT size=-1>There has been a discussion a few years 
    ago, the oldies here on the List will remember this, about</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>how to write that Weekly version of the program default Stoch(5,3) 
    into an Daily version, and</FONT><FONT size=-1>thus far no-one has ever 
    succeeded.(The Weekly performs its indicator line+buys&amp;sells 
    signals</FONT><FONT size=-1>always so SMOOTHLY).</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>Eventualy a SuperStochastics version came out 2nd best, I 
    believe.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=-1>Do not take this personaly, Songyun, I am 
    not discusioning your tremendous input, but am merely</FONT><FONT 
    size=-1>uncovering that what could easely set of to be the start of yet 
    another hype (see at the top for more</FONT><FONT size=-1>examples of 
    man-made hypes).</FONT>&nbsp; <BR>Regards, <BR>Ton Maas <BR><A 
    href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
    <BR>Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying. 
    <BR>Homepage&nbsp; <A 
    href="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas</A>&nbsp;&nbsp; 

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      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
      <DIV 
      style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
      <A href="mailto:songyun@xxxxxxx"; title=songyun@xxxxxxx>Songyun 
      Fox</A></DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
      href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
      title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A></DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> zaterdag 29 juli 2000 
      16:04</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> From Songyun - ref. Bressert 
      Cycle 5</DIV>&nbsp;<B><FONT 
      face="Arial Narrow Special G1">Hello...</FONT></B> 
      <P><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1">I have attached 2 pic's of the 
      Cycle 5 indicator at work.</FONT></B> 
      <P><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1">I think this is an easy 
      indicator to use,&nbsp; and should be</FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT 
      face="Arial Narrow Special G1">part of Equis/Metastock Quick Indicator 
      List.</FONT></B> 
      <P><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1">I offer this not to sell you 
      something,&nbsp; just you another easy</FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT 
      face="Arial Narrow Special G1">and free way to pick short term 
      tops/bottoms.</FONT></B> 
      <P><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1">I also use the Envelope, 
      located on the indicator list.</FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT 
      face="Arial Narrow Special G1">You can see how nicely it defines recent 
      tops and likely</FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT 
      face="Arial Narrow Special G1">future bottoms....</FONT></B> 
      <P><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1">Kindest regards,</FONT></B> 
      <P><B><FONT face="Arial Narrow Special G1">Songyun</FONT></B> 
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