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Re: MARK BROWN BANNED FOR LIFE FROM REALTRADERS FORUM!



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I am not "pissy" of anyone on the List. For that I cannot be hit.
What I realise is only setting <bend "records"> straight.
If my Data Provider provides me with inadequate data, they too will receive the storm.

I have put lots of time into all this library + its maintnance that I am holding, and
as you will remember from the many posts over the years, also in forwarding most
of it <in the widest sence> on to the List.
Too, maintaining a DB, starts out with a simple correct record base for data.

Also to me the info received via lists should hold content, valuable true correct content,
for it to be of a value, easy maintainable and for me also to be an inrichment to what
is already present here. Otherwise, being listed, is a simple waisted record
(of time, effort, space + money).

I can appriciate & value your trade-signals, as I would appriciate & value those send
by others. Perhaps I will even anticipate on them, who knows. Perhaps I can use them
as a mirror-bench for my own trade-signals' "performance", who knows.
Therefore, and as these signals are of a high standard, I urge you not to stop sending them.

And for whatever the fellow, the "pissy" artist is writing, I cannot, eh I will not alow to be put
onto the same con-pile as him. There are already that many differences in the quality of
my posts and the non-sence <straightout crap> written by that underdeveloped +
uneducated chappy.

A drawdown = a drawdown one can only receive once & only when that serie expires or
prior, on disposal of that serie. 
Whatever happens in the mean time is straighout highly irrellevant <theoretical only> info,
not ever to be used in/for practise/practical calculations results. IOW, if you're still holding
onto a trade then the exact moment you do get out, will decide if you have had a profit or
have had a drawdown. It either has or it hasn't, without any but's or if's.
Moneymanagement too is irrelevant here, for you should not have entered that trade if you're
moneymanagement does not alow you to take in unprofitable positions, else you should
revise your initial management, eg the base of a risk of welfare strategy.  

Simply setting the records straight +....................uncrapping manmade created chaos.

Regards,
Ton Maas
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Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.
Homepage  http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Karnish"
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: woensdag 9 augustus 2000 21:11
Subject: MARK BROWN BANNED FOR LIFE FROM REALTRADERS FORUM!


> Mark,
> 
> Could your next post address why you are the only person I know that has
> been
> "BANNED FOR LIFE" from the realtraders forum?
> 
> My clients didn't blink an eyelash at the drawdown...they seem to be quite
> satisfied riding the current winning string and the "fraction of the action"
> that was at risk in this trade.  You don't know shit about my money
> management approaches and applications.
> 
> Gee, maybe Ton and you are getting pissy because of that 1/4 pager (my I'm
> pretty) in the Investors Business Daily yesterday.  Or maybe it is my
> recurring presence on CNBC during the past six months.
> 
> Your best friend,
> 
> Steve Karnish
> Cedar Creek Trading
> http://www.cedarcreektrading.com
> 
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> contained herein is obtained from sources believed to be reliable but is not
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> be made that recommendations will be profitable, or that they will not
> result in losses. This information is neither an offer to sell nor
> solicitation to buy any of the commodity futures mentioned herein. The
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> executed, the results may have under-or-over compensated for the simulated
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> any account will or is likely to achieve profits or losses. Futures trading
> involves financial risk, lots of it!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Brown <markbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Steve Karnish <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 11:15 AM
> Subject: Re[2]: Bollinger Bands & Formula Monkeys
> 
> 
> > Hello  Steve,
> >
> > so is this the way a metastock dog and pony show analysis handles risk
> > when he go's long the sp and then next day it plummets over 30 points
> > against  him?   over the next few days his recommended position is over
> > 50 points against him and he has no money management risk advice?
> >
> > yea Steve you DA MAN!
> >
> >   Best regards,
> >   Mark Brown
> >
> >
> 
>