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I don't think that this is correct.  It looks like plain OBV.  TSV as per
TC2000 is distinctly different to OBV
Lionel Issen
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From: j seed <jseed_10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 2:51 PM
Subject: Time Segmented Volume


> Eric,
> Here's a TSV that was posted on this list some time back.
> J.
>
> {Time Segmented Volume}
> {TSV..plot with MA of 9}
> (Sum(If( C, >,Ref(C,-1), +V*C-Ref(C,-1),
> If(C,<,Ref(C,-1),-V*C-Ref(C,-1),0)),18{18}))
>
>
> >From: Eric Duchesne <ericduchesne@xxxxxxxx>
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> >To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: M. Prings discounted MetaStock's CDs.
> >Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:29:31 -0400
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> >You are stating TSV from TC 2000. Do you have the formula in order to put
> >it into Metastock or better the formula in order to put it into Excel.
> >Any help or hint will do.
> >
> >thank you
> >
> >eric
> >
> >On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:02:52 -0500 "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxx>
> >writes:
> > > TC2000 recommends using OBV with TSV (time segmented volume), when
> > > they are both insync its a good signal.  This sort of confirms my
> > > experience with OBV, that is don't use it by itself.
> > >
> > > If your referring to the change about a month ago, several other
> > > indicators also gave signals to sell, macd, stoch, and mov.
> > > Lionel Issen
> > > lissen@xxxxxxxxx
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Songyun Fox
> > >   To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 12:50 PM
> > >   Subject: Re: M. Prings discounted MetaStock's CDs.
> > >
> > >
> > >   Hello.
> > >   I use OBV on DJIA and stocks.  BBY gave a great Sell signal using
> > > Granville OBV.
> > >
> > >   If you'd like to see the chart I'd be happy to send it.
> > >
> > >   Songyun
> > >
> > >   Lionel Issen wrote:
> > >
> > >     Joe:
> > >     I have tried several versions of OBV, most of them don't give
> > > very different
> > >     or better/worse signals than Joe Granville's method. The only
> > > one I've seen
> > >     that may be better is the Time Segmented Volume used by TC2000.
> > >
> > >     Lionel Issen
> > >     lissen@xxxxxxxxx
> > >     ----- Original Message -----
> > >     From: <Arsk0jn@xxxxxxx>
> > >     To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >     Cc: <Arsk0jn@xxxxxxx>
> > >     Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 5:45 PM
> > >     Subject: Re: M. Prings discounted MetaStock's CDs.
> > >
> > >     > Lionel, in addition to the points you make there was a serious
> > > flaw in the
> > >     > way Granville determined OBV. He applied all of the daily
> > > volume either to
> > >     > the up-volume or down-volume depending on whether the stock
> > > closed up or
> > >     down
> > >     > for the day. Thus a stock closing up 1/8 point on one million
> > > shares would
> > >     > have the same increase in OBV as a stock moving up 2 points on
> > > one million
> > >     > shares. I read an article in the early '70's that calculated
> > > the up-volume
> > >     > as: ((High - Open) + (Close - Low))/2(High - Low). The reverse
> > > for
> > >     > down-volume. This gives a much more accurate evaluation of
> > >     > accumulation/distribution.
> > >     >
> > >     > The first edition of Perry's book was published in 1978. Based
> > > on its
> > >     > success, Perry was asked by Conti Commodity in St. Louis to
> > > manage a
> > >     > commodity account ($10,000 minimum to join). It did not do
> > > well in the
> > >     1980
> > >     > swing and was closed some time later. Which just goes to show
> > > that just
> > >     > because you can write a good cookbook doesn't necessarily mean
> > > you're a
> > >     good
> > >     > cook.
> > >     >
> > >     > Joe Nemecek
> > >
> >
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