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-Microsoft Update servers aren't just "slow", but are so because of the trafficing through their
very security tight meassured proxy servers and cause of the users IE browser's security thight
settings and browser's build-in security precautions features
-Downloads using Netscape, will therefore NOT be a (by MS) quaranteed virus-free download
{eg you are at your own FULL RISK: than BEING largely exposed to the everywhere around "Internet crime"},
i.e. program misses out on the above advanced browser security features
-You should have upgraded to IE5.1 (minimum 40 min) which minor upgrade(for old 5.0 users)
includes most security patches {instead of 45 min downloading Critical 'security' updates} as well
as lot more advanced stuff {for example my 5.5beta has got a Printer's Preview window}
-The Temporary Download Folders will be created "depending on the Update site you download from"
{here Microsoft did NOT change any previously used folder procedures}, i.e. downloading/updating from
the Windows Update site for Win95 is not the same as from the Win98 or Win98SE or the IE5x or
from the OfficeUpdate sites.
-It is advised to wait for the SP-1 CdRom release (usualy 6-8 weeks after Official 'web' release)
-The referenced CD here is "the previous program version" {and not a change in 'fuzzy" copyright policies,
since this is done so for "ages"}, of which the minor versions are already always baked on the CdRom
{but there is no need for the CdRom, since you can always refere to the installed main program folder
on your Disk}
Regards,
Ton Maas
ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.
Homepage http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Martinez" <DanM@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: donderdag 23 maart 2000 19:02
Subject: MicroSoft Office 2000 Service Release 1
All,
I read on a computer PC tech review/news site that MicroSoft Office 2000 Service Release 1 just
came out. You can find it at:
http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/
I tried using Internet Explorer v4.01 SP2 to get the Office Products catalog but it didn't work.
If you click on the Product Updates link on the above page and it doesn't work in IE, use
Netscape to get to the download link. MicroSoft's servers are incredibly slow. I suggest you
download the Office SR1 after midnight. SR1 is 26-40 MB's. For those of us unfortunate souls
who still have a 56K modem, it can take up to TWO (2) HOURS to download, even at top speed.
Still, I was able to download a 51 MB file in about 2 hours from another, much smaller, site.
You'd be surprised what a person can do with a 56K modem. That is, of course, if you download at
2 am. ;^)
A word of WARNING. I noticed on the information page this notice:
"To ensure the integrity of your Office 2000 installation, the SR-1 Update requires access to the
Office 2000 CD or your network installation location during the installation process."
MicroSoft's gettin' real fussy about illegal copying. If you don't have the CD, you can't
install it.
Before you try to install SR1, you should use the Windows 98 Update Internet page to at least
update your Internet Explorer update folder. MicroSoft recently changed the folder for
downloading updates from the 'Net. There are other "Critical" updates on the Windows 98 Update
Internet page which are also important. These "Critical" updates are mostly security updates. I
just got through installing all 5 or 6 listed on my page. It took about 45 minutes. I had put
it off for about 5 months. While you're at it, also update your Windows Media Player v6.4.
Daniel.
Daniel Martinez wrote:
> A.J.,
> I purchased MS Office Pro 97 after they stopped making it and during the free upgrade period
> to Office Pro 2000 MS was offering. That's why the Pro 97 was so cheap. The 97 package I
> purchased was a new and unopened retail box. I sent the box top to a MicroSoft address and
> they sent me the Office Pro 2000 upgrade package. The upgrade was actually free. The only
> thing I had to pay for was the shipping, which was $8 (yes, that's eight dollars [$8] hehe).
> It was a damn good deal. So good in fact, I purchased another 97 package for $130 so I could
> get another family member the free upgrade to Pro 2000.
>
> Sorry, the free upgrade offer ended last year. This is the old URL to the MicroSoft Office
> Pro 2000 upgrade page:
> http://www.microsoft.com/office/order/techguar.htm
>
> Because I purchased the second retail Office Pro 97 at the last minute (for the free Pro 2000
> upgrade), it was very difficult obtain at EBAY at a reasonable price. I had to bid on many
> packages before I found the right seller. Since the MS free upgrade period is over, the
> value of all MS Office 97 packages is essentially nil. You can probably purchase MS Office
> Pro 2K packages at a good price at EBAY.
>
> I agree, the Office Pro 2000 packages are EXPENSIVE. I went to Best Buy and their full
> retail version is nearly $600. The MS Office 2000 packages are so expensive, Best Buy stocks
> each of them in heavy locked plastic boxes. Whether or not Excel is worth the price and time
> to learn (VBA) is debatable. I'd rather have RadarScreen and a realtime eSignal datafeed.
> Unfortunately, this costs $1300 and another $3024/year. Plus, you need a high speed
> connection to the 'Net, such as cable modem or DSL, to fully utilize RS (not to mention a
> fast computer with plenty of memory).
>
> Daniel.
>
> "A.J. Maas" wrote:
>
> > Off Pro97 to Pro2000 Upgrade for $8?? Isn't that a typo?
> >
> > If one was to (here, localy) Upgrade from Off97 to Off2000, the nice sum of :
> > - â,¬175 (U$175) is minimaly charged for the basic Standard Edition(upgrade only)
> > - â,¬375 (U$175) is minimaly charged for the basic PRO Edition(full program)
> > and
> > - â,¬375 (U$375) is minimaly charged for the business Standard Edition(upgrade only)
> > - â,¬575 (U$575) is minimaly charged for the business PRO Edition(full program)
> >
> > -Daniel's buy is than Top ranked
> > ("buying MS Office Pro 97 last year on EBAY for a total of $75 (shipping included) and
> > through MicroSoft to upgrade to Pro 2K for $8)".
> > -Guy's buy is than second best
> > ("buying Office 2000 Professional at eBay for about $130.00" (and obviously was
> > already in the possesion of OfficePro97)).
> > -Joe's suggestion than fits somewhere in the (lower?) middle halve ranking
> > ("To try a used software store or web site" (obtaining the Off97-Standard Edition and
> > than to Upgrade to Off2000 Pro or Standard, basic or business, from there onwards)).
> > -The "locals" than lists the lowest-bottom-bleeders-rank (S..t).
> >
> > So remainder is to end this mail with the inivetible questions for you guys:
> >
> > 1. Daniel, what was that Microsoft $8 website, eg can you please explain more+in detail?
> >
> > 2. Joe, what 2nd-hand site/store suggestions can you please make?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ton Maas
> > ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.
> > Homepage http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Daniel Martinez" <DanM@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: woensdag 22 maart 2000 17:39
> > Subject: Re: Excel
> >
> > > I'm running MS Office Pro 2000 on my Windows 98 (original) and it runs fine. I
> > > believe the differences between Pro 97 and Pro 2K are 'Net and VBA
> > > enhancements. I haven't had the suite that long and I don't know it that well.
> > > The only reason why I purchased it was because I wanted to use the OLE2.0 in
> > > Excel for MetaStock. Since Jan. '97, I used Corel Office Pro 7. I still have
> > > both suites on my system. I purchased MS Office Pro 97 last year on EBAY for a
> > > total of $75 (shipping included). Through MicroSoft, I was able to upgrade to
> > > Pro 2K for $8 (hehe).
> > >
> > > Daniel.
> > >
> > >
> > > Arsk0jn@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > Look for someone who is updating their software or try a used software store
> > > > or web site. Microsoft Office 2000 is designed to be run on Windows NT.
> > > > Although it will run on other versions of Windows, probably it is very much
> > > > overkill for your needs.
> > > > Good luck,
> > > > Joe Nemecek
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