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<DIV><FONT size=2>Give it to them - Steve</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Want me to give them a visit?</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve 
  Karnish</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:sptrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=sptrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>sptrader</A> 
  ; <A href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> ; <A 
  href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 17, 2000 11:25 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: equity play-AMAT</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>List,&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sarcasm seems to escape many on the list (I guess 
  it's offensive to anyone who didn't grow up in Detroit).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1.&nbsp; Yes my eod vendor can adjust splits on 
  the chart.&nbsp; The problem is that the "Amerikan public" has difficulties 
  understanding the price movement unless you leave the splits in the price 
  charts.&nbsp; I used to get emails that told me my prices where wrong 
  because:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"AMAT was trading at 170 a few days ago and you 
  chart is wrong because you don't have it any higher than 90".</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2.&nbsp; Internally I do adjust the splits and 
  then apply my mechanical indicators (whaddya think I am, dumb and educated in 
  the Detroit Public Schools systems...holy moly).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3.&nbsp; It seems that a number of astute(?) list 
  members think that my signal was generated simply because the stock split and 
  suddenly the stock gapped down 50%.&nbsp; Duh, the "gap down opening" humor 
  was just that...humor (sarcasm).&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>4.&nbsp; You cowboys out there that think you 
  know momentum oscillators I'm applying to the markets or what rules constitute 
  a buy or sell signal should "choke" back your subjective opinions.&nbsp; 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm more than willing to share trading ideas and 
  exchange formulae (less willing lately...too many&nbsp;parasitic leaches), but 
  when folks are calling shots to the list about what does or does not 
  constitute a signal for me....it makes me giggle.&nbsp; I will continue to 
  "lay it on the table" (as I do everyday of my trading career), but before 
  anyone tells the forum that the only reason I triggered a trade is because of 
  a split...it might behoove you to first totally understand the math behind the 
  positions.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Actually, I have a pet monkey and the proverbial 
  dart board.&nbsp;&nbsp; That's my real secret.&nbsp; Maybe, the subjective 
  reviewers of my positions can speculate about what type of ape I'm 
  using.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So, I've been so busy this morning trading 
  futures, I haven't looked at AMAT.&nbsp; Did it fill the 80 point gap that it 
  created on the opening yesterday?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dripping with sarcasm and good 
looks,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A 
  href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    <A href="mailto:sptrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    title=sptrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>sptrader</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve 
    Karnish</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 17, 2000 10:42 
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: equity play-AMAT</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Looks like a stock split- don't you have to adjust for the 
    split , then re-apply the system ?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Steve</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
      <DIV 
      style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
      <A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve 
      Karnish</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
      href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
      title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> ; <A 
      href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 16, 2000 8:45 
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> equity play-AMAT</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>List,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My mechanical&nbsp;trading approach has been 
      very accurate with AMAT this year.&nbsp; The attached chart shows the 
      buying signals generated during the past twelve months.&nbsp; Tomorrow is 
      the first buying signal since early in the year.&nbsp; The five star 
      rating is my highest buying recommendation and is based on underlying 
      strength of trend.&nbsp; The buying signal is generated with a simple 
      momentum oscillator.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A 
      href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: "John Sellers" <ay286@xxxxxxxx>
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Subject: RE: Sharing My Plotting Answers From Equis
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Status:   

My plan is to copy the composite data of Cumulative Advances minus Declines
generated by the Metastock Downloader to a new file which should appear as
index file with the one value each day and no volume or other inputs.

This data can be I believe compressed to weekly but it will only occur on
Friday each week. It may then be used in weekly charts. It is not precisely
the same as the weekly values obtained in Barons weekly but it should
reflect the market actions viewed weekly.

The weekly update I plan to manually enter the end of each week.

Please comment and new suggestions are welcome.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Daniel Martinez
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 8:05 PM
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Sharing My Plotting Answers From Equis


I would also like to obtain weekly advance/decline data.
Unfortunately, Quotes-Plus doesn't offer this.  If anyone knows
where I can download this data, please LMK.  From what I
understand, the daily advance/decline line is less important than
the weekly.

If you want to keep track of market breadth and you only have
daily adv/dec data, it's best to use the McClellan Oscillator/McC
Summation index.

Daniel



John Sellers wrote:

>  These were responded to by:
>
> George
>
> Equis Customer Support
>
> http://www.equis.com
>
> George's response is below the following line.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 1.  Compressing daily to weekly will not work for advance
> decline data.
>
> Advance Decline is a total and weekly compression chart is not
> a total.
>
> To create a weekly advance decline you would have to total the
> number of
>
> advances for the week and total the number of declines for the
> week and
>
> manually enter those numbers into a new weekly data file.
>
>
>
> 2.  Compressed charts use Friday as the date. If you enter your
> values
>
> into your weekly data file and use Friday for the date you will
> be able
>
> to plot this in your daily compressed/weekly chart.
>
> Date : 3/13/00 9:25 PM
>
>   _____
>
> MY EMAIL QUESTION:
>
> Note I am expecting that Equis may be the only knowledgeable
> source but
>
> am including this request in the group in case someone else may
> wish to
>
> learn from what information I obtain.
>
>
>
> FIRST QUESTION:
>
> I am using Metastock 6.5 with a Windows 98 platform. I have
> been
>
> plotting a chart showing an index or security versus the New
> York
>
> Advance Decline composite values successfully on a daily chart
> using
>
> daily data files.
>
>
>
> I have been trying to compress the this daily chart to a weekly
>
> chart but the Advance Decline data does not look right. Are the
>
> composite data files compressible? What algorithm do you use
> for this
>
> function?
>
>
>
> SECOND QUESTION:
>
> If I log index data by the week can I plot it with a daily
> security that
>
> has been compressed to weekly in the same chart. Of course I
> wish for
>
> both components to start at the same date and finish on the
> same date.
>
>
>
> Please explain how I should proceed to accomplish the above two
>
> functions.