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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your description of the FFT in Metastock sadly is
accurate..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You mention TAS. How well does this run with V
6.52?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Lionel Issen<BR><A
href="mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxx";>lissen@xxxxxxxxx</A></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
A.J. Maas
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Metastock-List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 27, 2000 3:23
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: === Looping
constructs.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face="Times New Roman"><STRONG><EM>Ton : I plotted it
and it is invisible ?</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT color=#008080
face="Times New Roman"></FONT></EM></STRONG> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>It's the result of the simplicity of how the basic FFT
Function works in the program. The program's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>formula limitations </FONT><FONT size=2>for the FFT Function
will only have it being </FONT><FONT size=2>calculated and have it being
displayed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>only </FONT><FONT size=2>"at the beginning left of the
Chart". </FONT><FONT size=2>See point 2 on how to get </FONT><FONT size=2>the
Function visable, and than later,</DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2>eventualy get a tryout version visable (of the formula
that was given for the </FONT><FONT size=2>ITL).</DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The limitations and </FONT><FONT size=2>other items
mentioned(see point 1) has also stopped me (for the moment)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>to look further </FONT><FONT size=2>into the ITL. This
all did stop me back than as well. </FONT><FONT size=2>Perhaps one other
day...................</DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2><BR>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas<BR><A
href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Dismiss
the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.<BR>Homepage <A
href="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT
size=2>----------------------------------------</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> 1.- First a few remarks on why I will stop with
further looking into the Fourier
Transform:<BR> a. The
Equis' TA from A to Z book by Steve Achellis (p. 141-143) of which an
electronic<BR>
version is freely available on the Equis website) shows a picture
graph<BR>
example of the 'working indicator', but doesn't mention anything on
how<BR>
to get to it/this far when using it in the program. The graph
reveals<BR>
indicator's uselessness in full, though. That's also why the knickname
BIMBO.<BR> b. Since this
is just another one of the BIMBO indicators (eg see c, thus
jet<BR>
anotherone of the Fibionancy/GANN/KAGI and alike useless set of
B-indicators)<BR> c.
Since there are no fixed cycle
lengths<BR> d. Since the
Program's Formula
limitations<BR> e. Since
a+b+c+d making it a pure waste of precious time
<BR> f. Therefore
all I have done here is sum up the facts(+defacts) known
up<BR>
till now (1+2+3a+3b+4).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>----------------------------------------<BR> 2.- Equis
Support writes: {for better readability have adjusted the text}</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-The FFT() function does not plot data for all the bars in a
chart.<BR>-The data values should be measured against the Y-axis scale on the
side of the Chart(right)<BR> and represent the days of each cycle, eg
determined by the numeric value of the indicator. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-Try plotting the following formula as an indicator in your
chart:<BR>FFT(C, 100, 1, DETREND, POWER)<BR>-Then scroll back to the 1st date
that's plotted in Chart's most Left side.<BR>-You will now see a short plot in
only the first section of the chart.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-This is NOT the calculation for the whole plot, eg its
based on PERIOD, and therefore</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> the indicator only examines the 1st 100 periods
of data loaded, eg it will leave any other</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> data unexamined. <BR>-Since the explorer only looks at
the last bar of data, it does not see these values.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT size=2>-If you enclose the above formula inside other
functions, you can carry its values<BR> on to the last bar for the
examined PERIOD. For example:</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Highest( FFT(C, 100, 1, DETREND, POWER)
)</FONT><BR></FONT><FONT size=2>-This will report on the 100th day, the
highest value the FFT() function returned on the data</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> it examined.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-For example:<BR></FONT><FONT
size=2>LastValue(Highest( FFT(C, 100, 1, DETREND, POWER) )<BR>-This will
transfer over the last report's value, reported on the 100th day,
onto the last bar in the Chart.<BR></DIV></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-This data however, is only (in the above example) the
HIGHEST value of the<BR> first 100 periods loaded in the Chart (eg the
Chart's 1st 100 day's of data records) and useless</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> when a much later period needed to be
examined.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-Additional parameters to set a specific time period for
when data needs to be examined are</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> not available in program. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>----------------------------------------<BR>For a better
comparison, do 3a and 3b:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> 3a.-Drag the Fourier Tansform ind from the Indicator
Builder onto the Chart<BR> -choose for
parameters:<BR>
Interpreted: RAW {since we don't want to use
MSK's
defaults}<BR>
TimePeriods:
300<BR>
Length :
1<BR>
PriceField :
Close<BR>
Method : Spectrum
{Power}<BR>
Smoothing : Detrend</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> 3b.-Drag the FastFourierTransform ind (eg the custom)
onto the Chart<BR> -the standard build-in
FFT function is written as
follows:<BR>
FUNCTION(ARRAY,PERIODS,LENGTH,SMOOTHING,METHOD)<BR>
-for creation of the cutom ind, this should be read
as:<BR>
FFT(DA,PRDS,LEN,DETRENDorMEAN,POWERorAMPLITUDE)<BR>
where:
<BR>
Interpreted: FFT {the
function}<BR>
TimePeriods: Prds {examend PERIOD
periods}<BR>
Length : Len {1=dly,
5=wkly}<BR>
PriceField : DA {data
array}<BR>
Method : POWERorAMPLITUDE {Spectrum(Pwr)
or
Amplitude}<BR>
Smoothing : DETRENDorMEAN {Detrend(LinReg) or
Mean(MovAve)}<BR> -now used with the same
parameters as for the standard ind would
read<BR>
TimPrds:=300<BR>
FFT(C,TimPrds,1,DETREND,POWER)<BR>Notes:<BR>The settings used for the Chart's
OPEN|OPTIONS, eg on Open-ing are
here standard:<BR> -Load 25000
periods<BR> -Display 250 periods.<BR>It
will not have much effect on calculations, if you have other settings,
but<BR>a minimum Load of say 350 periods is required.<BR>For the above
comparison the DowINDU was used (eg since its holds records<BR>back to
19800101, what better way to test "some"
indicator!).<BR>----------------------------------------<BR>The FFTCycles
indicator (see the TAS formulas below) in MetaStock is not present,
eg<BR>plain missing, and will therefore have to be
created(custom).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> 4.-Have printed the FFTCycle attempts(converting the
TAS version into a MSK version)<BR> as additional
notes below the original TAS version.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>===================================================<BR>Fast
Fourier Transform and Cycle formulas as can be found in the TAS
program.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>23.1.17 FFT Fast Fourier
Transform</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
Usage: FFT( Array1
)<BR> Returns:
Array<BR> Description :
<BR> FFT(Array1) "Fast
Fourier Transform" function to calculate
the<BR> detrended power
spectrum of the array Array1. The detrended
power<BR> spectrum is an
array [1..n] where the value of each entry is
the<BR> amplitude of the
power at the i/n'th frequency. This
is<BR> essentially
equivalent to the 'raw' power spectrum shown
by<BR> MetaStock 3.5 and
later FFT indicator.<BR>
Example:<BR> Array X =
FFT(CLOSE);<BR> would
place the detrended power spectrum in array X.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>23.1.18 FFTCycle Cycle via Fast Fourier
Transform</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
Usage: FFTCYCLE( Array1
)<BR> Returns:
Array<BR> Description
:<BR> FFTCycle performs
a detrended FFT on array Array1 and
then<BR> creates an
array containing cycles found in order from
most<BR> dominant to
least dominant.<BR> The
0th entry of the result array contains the dominant cycle.
If<BR> the dominent
cycle length is longer than the number of
data<BR> points in the
array, no cycle was
found.<BR>
Example:<BR> Array X =
FFTCycle(CLOSE);<BR> IF
X[0] < QUOTE_COUNT
THEN<BR>
Writeln(`Dominant cycle is
`,X[0]);<BR>
ELSE<BR>
WriteLn(`No dominant cycle found');</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>===================================================<BR>Fast
Fourier Transform as it cannot be found in MetaStock, eg the Fourier
Transform<BR>indicator is only present in program, is basicaly the FFT
Function and therefore limited<BR>in use, since the Cycles formula indicator
is not present, eg the Cycles will<BR>therefore have to be created as a custom
indicator.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><BR>FFTCycles indicator (Predominate cycles for
FastFourierTransform)<BR>(version for MetaStock 6.5+)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Name: FFTCycle </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Formula:<BR>{The indicator will always return the
total<BR>amount of days a cycle has lasted. If the<BR>dominent cycle length is
longer than the<BR>number of data points in the array,<BR>no cycle was
found.<BR>The 0th entry of the result array contains<BR>the dominant cycle, eg
indicator will start<BR>at day1 of the
Chart.}<BR>=================================================<BR>{attempt
1}<BR>TiPrds:=300
{QUOTE_COUNT};<BR>FFTind:=FFT(C,TiPrds,1,DETREND,POWER);<BR>FFTtot:=Sum(FFTind,TiPrds);<BR>FrrHtot:=FFTind>(FFTtot/2)<BR>
{Most Predominate
Cycle};<BR>FrrLtot:=FFTind<(FFTtot/2)<BR> {Least
Predominate Cycle};<BR>FrrAtot:=FFTtot-(FrrHtot+FrrLtot)<BR>
{Average Predominate
Cycle};<BR>CycMstSig:=HighestSince(1,C>0,FFTind);<BR>CycLstSig:=LowestSince(1,C>0,FFTind);<BR>CycPlot:=
{= Array X = FFTCycle}<BR>
If(BarsSince(C>0)<=FrrHtot,CycMstSig,<BR>
If(BarsSince(CycMstSig)>=FrrHtot,CycLstSig,<BR>
FrrAtot));<BR>If(CycPlot<TiPrds,CycPlot,-1)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>{this will only plot a small single dot on the TiPrds
day in the
Chart}<BR>===================================================<BR>{finding the
total amount of available Records in the data file, eg</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>to overcome the error:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>"This variable or expression must contain only constant
data"}<BR>Rcrds:=Cum(C>0);<BR>{Rcrds results are
5098}<BR>===================================================<BR>{attempt
2}<BR>TiPrds:=300
{QUOTE_COUNT};<BR>FFTind:=FFT(C,TiPrds,1,DETREND,POWER);<BR>FFTtot:=Sum(FFTind,TiPrds)<BR>
{total summed values after TiPrds
days};<BR>FFTHtot:=Sum(Highest(FFTind),TiPrds)<BR> {total
summed H values after TiPrds
days};<BR>FFTLtot:=Sum(Lowest(FFTind),TiPrds)<BR> {total
summed L values after TiPrds
days};<BR>FFTAtot:=FFTHtot-FFTLtot<BR> {total summed Ave
values after TiPrds days};<BR>FrrHtot:={Most Predominate
Cycle}<BR>
If(FFTHtot>=((FFTtot/3)*2)=1,FFTHtot/TiPrds,<BR>
{Least Predominate Cycle}<BR>
If(FFTLtot<=((FFTtot/3)*2)=1,FFTLtot/TiPrds,<BR> {Average
Predominate Cycle}FFTAtot/TiPrds));<BR>FrrHtot</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>{this will only plot a small single dot on the TiPrds day in
the
Chart}<BR>====================================================</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:sky40912@xxxxxxxxx"; title=sky40912@xxxxxxxxx>Theo E.M.
Lockefeer</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> vrijdag 25 februari 2000
16:41</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: === Looping
constructs.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080><STRONG><EM>Helo Friend Ton and other
friends........</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2>From: A.J. Maas <<A
href="mailto:anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx";>anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx</A>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>To: Metastock-List <<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Sent: February 24, 2000 12:08 AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Subject: Re: === Looping constructs.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>> 1. Yes<BR>> <BR>> 2. Yes : give user definable
program control back to its program users<BR>> <BR>> 3. -see previous
FFT mailings below (incl. a reply by Equis Support on simular
question)<BR>> -MESA-John Ehlers: I have created a
test formula for the ITL, but cannot recall if it was<BR>>
also a succes(anyone get back to the List with your results or
findings).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080><STRONG><EM>Ton : i plotted it and it it is
invisible ?</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080><STRONG><EM>Regards Theo
L.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><BR>> -website of Dennis Meyers,
Ph.D. :<BR>> <A
href="http://www.meyersanalytics.com/";>http://www.meyersanalytics.com/</A><BR>>
TASC April 1999 article (p.16) by Dennis Meyers,
Ph.D. :<BR>> " The
Discrete Fourier Transform Illustion "<BR>>
<A
href="http://www.traders.com/Abstracts_new/Meyers/Meyers9904.html";>http://www.traders.com/Abstracts_new/Meyers/Meyers9904.html</A><BR>>
TASC May 1999 article (p.26) by Dennis
Meyers, Ph.D. :<BR>>
" The Endpoint Fast
Fourier Transform System "
<BR>> <A
href="http://www.traders.com/Abstracts_new/Meyers/Meyers9905.html";>http://www.traders.com/Abstracts_new/Meyers/Meyers9905.html</A>
<BR>> TASC July 1999 Letters to S&C -
2x replies by the Editor<BR>> <A
href="http://www.traders.com/Letters/Letters.html";>http://www.traders.com/Letters/Letters.html</A><BR>>
<BR>> test<BR>> INSTANTANEOUS TREND LINE - JOHN EHLERS (Mesa version
for MetaStock)<BR>> <BR>> DCPL:=Input("Dominant Cycle Periodical
Length",1,100,30);<BR>> DCPLP:=Input("Dominant Cycle PerLength
Period",1,1000,1);<BR>> DA:=MP();<BR>> SINDA:=Sin(DA)/DA;<BR>>
DCSIN:=FFT(SINDA,DCPL,DCPLP,MEAN,AMPLITUDE);<BR>>
ITLlong:=MP()+Mov(DCSIN,DCPL,S);<BR>> ITLlong <BR>> <BR>>
Regards,<BR>> Ton Maas<BR>> <A
href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>>
Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.<BR>>
Homepage <A
href="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas</A><BR>>
<BR>>
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----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Kolade, Adeniyi"<BR>> To:
<<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>>
Sent: dinsdag 22 februari 2000 17:14<BR>> Subject: === Looping
constructs.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > Hi all<BR>> > <BR>> >
Do you not think that Equis should <BR>> > <BR>> > 1
Include looping constructs in the Metastock formula language<BR>> >
<BR>> > and<BR>> > <BR>> > 2 Make the tiny screen
area for programming in the Explorer, the System<BR>> > Tester and the
Expert Builder expandable to one page at least<BR>> > <BR>>
> Further can anyone tell me how to make the FFT function works in
an<BR>> > exploration. I've tried it out but it returns N/A<BR>>
> <BR>> > Thanks<BR>> > ade Kolade<BR>> <BR>>
================================================<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "A.J. Maas"<BR>> To: <<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>>
Cc: "Walter Lake"<BR>> Sent: woensdag 4 november 1998 0:42<BR>>
Subject: Re: Fast Fourier Transform and FFT<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >
MESA + John Ehlers(see futher below) <BR>> > <A
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>> >
are now using the Instantanious Trendline wich uses the FFT and<BR>> >
VAR etc(Adaptive) for MAs.<BR>> > <BR>> > He has just recently
published it to his MESA Users Group.<BR>> > To join send an email
with the word "subscribe" as subject to<BR>> > <A
href="mailto:users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>> >
Subject: subscribe<BR>> > <BR>> > Regards,<BR>> > Ton
Maas<BR>> >
------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>>
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Van: John Ehlers <<A
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>>
Aan: undisclosed reciepients<BR>> Onderwerp: Instantaneous
Trendline<BR>> Datum: zondag 25 oktober 1998 23:19<BR>> <BR>> To
MESA Users Group:<BR>> Here is a set of new indicators that
you can program yourselves. The<BR>> first of these indicators I
call an INSTANTANEOUS TRENDLINE. It works<BR>> because it
completely removes the dominant cycle from a smoothing average.<BR>> For
the mathematically inclined, the Fourier Transform of a rectangular<BR>>
window (formed by a simiple average) is a Sin(X)/X distribution.
The<BR>> objective is to place the first null of this distribution
exactly at the<BR>> dominant cycle. For the intuitively inclined,
what we are doing is taking<BR>> a simple average over the full dominant
cycle period. In such an average,<BR>> there are as many sample
points above the midpoint as below the midpoint<BR>> with the result that
the sum of all these sample points is zero.<BR>> OK, so all
we have to do to get an Instantaneous Trendline is to take a<BR>> simple
average whose length is exactly the period of the dominant cycle.<BR>>
For those of you who have TradeStation and MESA96, you just insert the
dc<BR>> variable for the length of the simple moving average. For
those of you who<BR>> have MetaStock or other toolbox packages, you just
have to estimate the<BR>> length of the dominant cycle and insert that
estimate as your moving<BR>> average period. Of course, this
estimate is fixed across your entire<BR>> screen, but the dominant cycle
length can be varying. So watch out for<BR>> that problem.<BR>>
The next indicator is created by taking a moving average over
half the<BR>> period of a dominant cycle. In this case, the
amplitude of the dominant<BR>> cycle is attenuated by exactly 2/PI.
Our objective is to restore the full<BR>> amplitude of the cyclic
portion. So we take this latest moving average,<BR>> subtract the
"Instantaneous Trendline", multiple the difference by PI/2<BR>> (1.57
approximately), and then add the Instantaneous trendline back.
Since<BR>> the lag of a moving average is about half the moving average
window length,<BR>> this modified half dominant cycle moving average will
still lag the realy<BR>> cyclic swing by a quarter cycle.<BR>>
Now, when we look at these two moving averages, we can
make two<BR>> assessments. First, we now solve the age-old problem
of what is the<BR>> trendline. We have create an adaptive
trendline. Secondly, we can see the<BR>> cyclic swing relative to
this trendline so that we can assess the amplitude<BR>> of the cyclic
movement. If this cyclic amplitude is not several times that<BR>>
average daily bar range, then getting an entry and exit for a
profitable<BR>> cyclic move becomes a crapshoot. In other words,
the signal to noise ratio<BR>> is so low that even though we have
identified a good cycle, it is not large<BR>> enough to trade profitably
without relying on an intraday fill.<BR>> Good
Trading!!!<BR>> John<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>>
<BR>> On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:19:00 -0600, you wrote:<BR>> <BR>>
>Since the movements in the stockmarket are not truely periodic, is there
any<BR>> >evidence that linear or non-linear Fourier analysis can be
applied to the<BR>> >stockmarket?<BR>> <BR>> Imo, FA can answer
this question: If we do some appropriate kind of<BR>> windowing, we get
as a result the "amount of periodic content" vs<BR>> time,
including information about the accompanying frequencies. And if<BR>>
periodic content is high, FA can do some kind of meaningful<BR>>
extrapolation.<BR>> <BR>> mfg rudolf stricker<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Lionel and Gail
Issen"<BR>> To: <<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>>
Sent: dinsdag 3 november 1998 23:19<BR>> Subject: Re: Fast Fourier
Transform and FFT<BR>> <BR>> > CCollins:<BR>> > <BR>> >
The so called FFT in MS is a loser. The dominant cycle always comes up
as<BR>> > the length of the time period of the data. The so
called cycles bear little<BR>> > resemblance to anything
useable. Excel spreadsheets supports FFT.<BR>> > Parenthetically
I have never come across anyone who uses MS FFT for trading.<BR>> > I
have met many people who collectively use almost all the rest of the<BR>>
> functionality of MS,<BR>> > <BR>> > Since the movements in
the stockmarket are not truely periodic, is there any<BR>> > evidence
that linear or non-linear Fourier analysis can be applied to the<BR>>
> stockmarket?<BR>> > <BR>> > Lionel Issen<BR>>
><BR>> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<BR>> > Van: C
Collins<BR>> > Aan: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>>
> Datum: dinsdag 3 november 1998 21:27<BR>> > Onderwerp: Re: Fast
Fourier Transform and FFT<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
> Having recently upgraded to 6.5 and being a multiyear
user of Metastock<BR>> > >2.5, 3, 5, etc, there is a part of this
function which I have never been<BR>> > >able to coax into
functioning. The INTERPRETED choice produces the findings<BR>> >
>of long waves from 89 to 500 . Nothing I have done will show the
smaller<BR>> > >waves. Also, if the choice of RAW data is made and
other reasonable choices<BR>> > >(such as 100, 1, mean,
amplitude) are made the result is a window with an<BR>> >
>"Y-value" axis, but there is no graph of any type. Has anyone succeeded
in<BR>> > >using this function. Also, has anyone ever had there
hands on software<BR>> > >called "Epoch Pro" developed by John
Ehlers.<BR>> > ><BR>> > >From: Manoj Abraham<BR>> >
>> To: <A
href="mailto:support@xxxxxxxxx";>support@xxxxxxxxx</A><BR>> > >>
Cc: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>>
> >> Subject: RE: Fast Fourier Transform and FFT<BR>> >
>> Date: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 6:17 AM<BR>> > >>
<BR>> > >> Hi,<BR>> > >> If Metastock can interpret
the Cycles and display it I cant understand<BR>> > >> why it
cannot output the value to explorer or into a custom indicator.<BR>> >
>> and what is the use of FFT function built into metastock.<BR>>
> >> <BR>> > >> Manoj Abraham<BR>> > >>
<BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> There
is not a way to create the interpreted FFT in The Explorer.
The<BR>> > >> Explorer uses individual formulas and Fast Fourier
Transform Interpreted<BR>> > >> is actually a long series of Raw
calculations, and each Raw calculation<BR>> > >> is analyzed to
determine 3 dominant cycles.<BR>> > >> <BR>> > >>
Raw is only one calculation of the series. To manually calculate
Raw<BR>> > >> like interpreted would have to run many Raw
calculations and analyze the<BR>> > >> Raw number results in a
database to determine dominant values. This<BR>> > >>
series of calculations is not possible in an Exploration.<BR>> >
>> <BR>> > >> Equis Support<BR>> > >> <A
href="http://www.equis.com/";>http://www.equis.com/</A><BR>> > >>
<A
href="http://www.equis.com/customer/support/";>http://www.equis.com/customer/support/</A><BR>>
> >> Please include previous email answers and questions in your
response.<BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> Equis and MetaStock
and MetaStock Professional are registered trademarks<BR>> > >>
of Equis International. Achelis Binary Wave, The DownLoader,
Expert<BR>> > >> Advisor, OptionScope, Quotecenter, and Smart
Charts are trademarks of<BR>> > >> Equis International.<BR>>
> >> <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> >
-----Original Message-----<BR>> > >> > From: Manoj
Abraham<BR>> > >> > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 3:11
AM<BR>> > >> > To: <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>>
> >> > Cc: <A
href="mailto:support@xxxxxxxxx";>support@xxxxxxxxx</A><BR>> > >>
> Subject: Fast Fourier Transform and
FFT<BR>> > >> > <BR>> > >> > Hi
everybody,<BR>> > >> > <BR>> > >> > Does
anybody know how to get the interpreted FFT value in explorer.<BR>> >
>> > When the interpreted Fourier transform is loaded the function
says<BR>> > >> > Fourier
Transform(Close,-1,-1.0000,Detrend,Amplitude)<BR>> > >> > Put
the same as a new function It gives error messages.<BR>> >
>> > <BR>> > >> > Manoj Abraham<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>As you can see from the older mails below, there are quite a
few CC indicators around.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The
Curves: Indicators,Momentums,Oscillators,SysTests.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The one I am using is a 3-week tradable version of the one I
had already written in the top mail:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Name: Coppock Curve - LT Momentum</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Formula:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>{1). Calculate the % change in value from 14 months
ago.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>2). Calculate the % change in value from 11 months
ago.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>3). Add 1 + 2.
</FONT><FONT size=2>4). The Coppock indicator is </FONT><FONT size=2>the
10-month</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>(220days) weighted </FONT><FONT size=2>average of
3. 4). </FONT><FONT size=2>Original Modified</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>t</FONT><FONT size=2>o a 3-week version for trading
purposes. 5). Overlay for</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>trigger </FONT><FONT size=2>with a 14-day
SMA, AJM.}</DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2> </DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>Mov((CLOSE-Ref(C,-300))/(Ref(C,-300)*0.01)+<BR>(CLOSE-Ref(C,-240))/(Ref(C,-240)*0.01),15,W)</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas<BR></FONT><A
href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT
size=2>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><BR><FONT size=2>Dismiss the ".nospam"
bit (including the dot) when replying.<BR>Homepage </FONT><A
href="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";><FONT
size=2>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas</FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2>From: "j seed" </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>To: <</FONT><A href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT
size=2>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT size=2>></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Sent: zondag 27 februari 2000 14:42</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Subject: RE: B.. contrarian...Coppock Curve</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>> Ton,<BR>> <BR>> Would you be so kind as to post the
formula for the Coppock Curve?<BR>> <BR>> Thanks,<BR>>
J.<BR>====================================================</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2>From: "A.J. Maas"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>To: <</FONT><A href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT
size=2>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Sent: vrijdag 23 oktober 1998 0:38</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Subject: Re: Coppock Indicator</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><BR>I think from Equis excellent article, that you have
"filled" the last alineas<BR>missing in the longer term Coppock Curve - LT
Momentum indicator.<BR>Sure looks like a TRUE curve, if you ever have the chance
to send a copy<BR>of the article, I'd be much
obliged.<BR><BR>1.
(Close-Ref(C,-300))/(Ref(C,-300)*0.01)<BR>2.
(Close-Ref(C,-240))/(Ref(C,-240)*0.01)<BR>3.
Mov((Close-Ref(C,-300))/(Ref(C,-300)*0.01)+<BR>
(Close-Ref(C,-240))/(Ref(C,-240)*0.01),220,W)<BR><BR>Thanks for
posting,<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><BR></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<BR>Van: Andrew J.
Kornberg</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Aan: Metastock <</FONT><A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT
size=2>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT size=2>><BR>Datum: donderdag
22 oktober 1998 14:26<BR>Onderwerp: Coppock
Indicator<BR><BR>>Hi,<BR>><BR>>My understanding of the Coppock
Indicator is that is is calculated as<BR>>follows:<BR>><BR>>1.
Calculate the % change in value from 14 months ago<BR>>2. Calculate the %
change in value from 11 months ago<BR>>3. Add 1 + 2<BR>>4. The Coppock
indicator is the 10-month weighted average of 3.<BR>><BR>>This is from
Temby, Technical Analysis For Trading Index Warrants.<BR>>The formulae
presented do not appear to calculate it in the same way.<BR>>Please correct
me if I'm wrong.<BR>><BR>>Thanks,<BR>>Andrew J.
Kornberg<BR>><BR>>============================================<BR>>Coppock
Curve<BR>><BR>>NAME: Coppock Curve - E.S.C. Coppock<BR>>{As published
in TAM-mag Apr97 p.15<BR>>Article by J van
Gemeren}<BR>><BR>>Formula:<BR>>Mov(Mov(C,22,S)/Mov(Ref(C,-250),22,S),150,E)-1<BR>>=============================================<BR>>CoppockMomentum
- Edwin Coppock<BR>><BR>>Formula:<BR>>{As published in TAM-mag Feb97
issue p10<BR>>Mid-Term Indicator with 0 crosses as buy/sell<BR>>signals
and divergence as "correction indicator"<BR>>see also Coppock Trade
System-indicator}<BR>><BR>>((Mo(14)*1)+<BR>>(Mo(13)*2)+<BR>>(Mo(12)*3)+<BR>>(Mo(11)*4)+<BR>>(Mo(10)*5)+<BR>>(Mo(9)*6)+<BR>>(Mo(8)*7)+<BR>>(Mo(7)*8)+<BR>>(Mo(6)*9)+<BR>>(Mo(5)*10)+<BR>>(Mo(4)*11)+<BR>>(Mo(3)*12)+<BR>>(Mo(2)*13)+<BR>>(Mo(1)*14))/14<BR>><BR>>NAME:<BR>>CoppockMomentum
Trade System - Edwin Coppock<BR>><BR>>Formula:<BR>>{As published in
TAM-mag Feb97 issue p10<BR>>Mid-Term Indicator with 0 crosses as
buy/sell<BR>>signals and divergence as "correction indicator"<BR>>see also
Coppock-indicator}<BR>><BR>>(If(<BR>>fml( "CoppockMomentum - Edwin
Coppock" )><BR>>Ref(fml( "CoppockMomentum - Edwin Coppock"
),-1)AND<BR>>Ref(fml( "CoppockMomentum - Edwin Coppock"
),-1)><BR>>Ref(fml( "CoppockMomentum - Edwin Coppock"
),-2),+1,0))<BR>>AND<BR>>(If(<BR>>fml( "CoppockMomentum - Edwin
Coppock" )<<BR>>Ref(fml( "CoppockMomentum - Edwin Coppock"
),-1)AND<BR>>Ref(fml( "CoppockMomentum - Edwin Coppock"
),-1)<<BR>>Ref(fml( "CoppockMomentum - Edwin Coppock"
),-2),-1,0))<BR>>=============================================<BR>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT size=2>>-----Original Message-----<BR>>From:
SectorBets</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>><BR>>Well, here is the Coppock Curve formula for MetaStock...sorry
it is so long,<BR>>but that's life sometimes. I don't display a scale
and I also set a horizontal at<BR>>"zero" just for better
visualization. If you want to set a scale that makes
sense,</DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>>you should probably multiply the whole formula by maybe
10000 or 100000</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>>to have a set of numbers that make sense.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>><BR>>(ROC( CLOSE,14 ,percent )*10 +
ROC(CLOSE,11,percent)*10
+<BR>>ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-1),14,percent)*9+ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-1),11,percent)*9+<BR>>ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-2),14,percent)*8+ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-2),11,percent)*8+<BR>>ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-3),14,percent)*7+ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-3),11,percent)*7+<BR>>ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-4),14,percent)*6+ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-4),11,percent)*6+<BR>>ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-5),14,percent)*5+ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-5),11,percent)*5+<BR>>ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-6),14,percent)*4+ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-6),11,percent)*4+<BR>>ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-7),14,percent)*3+ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-7),11,percent)*3
+<BR>>ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-8),14,percent)*2+ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-8),11,percent)*2+<BR>>ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-9),14,percent)+ROC(Ref(CLOSE,-9),11,percent))/2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>><BR>>The formula, however, is only of academic interest
unless it is used with either<BR>>Coppock's original intent (I don't like it
since it usually gets out far too early in trending<BR>>markets/stocks)
or with a slight modification that I developed over the last couple
of<BR>>years and will be publishing in the Market Technicians Association
Journal sometime<BR>>over the next few months. Without getting into too
much verbiage, you can set up a<BR>>system test that uses my modifications as
follows:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>><BR>>Let's assume that you have called the above
formula "Coppock Curve."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>> Signal Formulas<BR>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>>Enter Long:<BR>>Fml("Coppock Curve") >
Ref(Fml("Coppock Curve"), -1)<BR>>AND<BR>>((Close > Ref(Open,-1) AND
Ref(Black(),-1))<BR>>OR<BR>>(Close > Ref(Close,-1) AND
Ref(White(),-1)))<BR>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>>Close Long:<BR>>Fml("Coppock Curve") <
Ref(Fml("Coppock Curve"),-1)<BR>>AND<BR>>((Close < Ref(Open,-1) AND
Ref(White(),-1))<BR>>OR<BR>>(Close < Ref(Close,-1) AND
Ref(Black(),-1)))</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>><BR>>Enter Short:<BR>>Fml("Coppock Curve") <
Ref(Fml("Coppock Curve"),-1)<BR>>AND<BR>>((Close < Ref(Close,-1) AND
Ref(Black(),-1))<BR>>OR<BR>>(Close < Ref(Open,-1) AND
Ref(White(),-1)))</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>><BR>>Close Short:<BR>>Fml("Coppock Curve") >
Ref(Fml("Coppock Curve"),-1)<BR>>AND<BR>>((Close > Ref(Close,-1) AND
Ref(White(),-1))<BR>>OR<BR>>(Close > Ref(Open,-1) AND
Ref(Black(),-1)))</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>><BR>>This approach works well with monthly, weekly,
daily, hourly etc charts. Visually, I like <BR>>to use candlestick charts
since it is easier to "see" the trading signals as they appear<BR>>on the
chart. Try this out on several of your favorite stocks and you will be
pretty<BR>>amazed at how well it works, particularly versus a buy-and-hope
strategy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>><BR>>Good luck.<BR>>SectorBets<BR>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>>>-----Original Message-----<BR>>From: Greatelto
<FONT size=2><BR>>To: </FONT><A
href="mailto:metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT
size=2>metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT size=2><BR>>Date:
Thursday, December 11, 1997 10:08 PM<BR>>Subject: Momentum
Index<BR>><BR>><BR>>>Has anybody heard of or know where to find info
on the Coppock Curve? I<BR>>>understand it is a momentum index based
on a combination of two rate of<BR>>change<BR>>>measures and has a very
good record of identifying bottoms and new advance<BR>>>phases when the
index itself moves from an oversold condition. It recently<BR>>>did
just that, suggesting strength into the year end and early
1998.<BR>>><BR>>>If anyone can help, please advise.
Thanks....<BR>>><BR>>>Jerry<BR>>></FONT><BR>>=============================================<BR>>Coppock
Curve<BR>><BR>>rev. 01/06/97<BR>><BR>><BR>>The Coppock Curve was
developed by Edwin Sedgwick Coppock in 1962. It was<BR>>featured in the
November 94 issue of Technical Analysis of Stocks &<BR>>Commodities, in
the article "The Coppock Curve", written by
Elliot<BR>>Middleton.:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Taken from Stocks &
Commodities, V. 12:11 (459-462): The Coppock Curve by<BR>>Elliott
Middleton<BR>><BR>>"We are creatures of habit. We judge the world relative
to what we have<BR>>experienced. If we're shopping for a mortgage and rates
have been in the<BR>>teens (as they were in the early 1980s) and then drop to
10%, we are elated.<BR>>If, however, they've been at 8% and then rise to 10%,
we are disappointed.<BR>>It all depends on your
perspective.<BR>><BR>>The principle of adaptation-level applies to how we
judge our income levels,<BR>>stock prices and virtually every other variable
in our lives.<BR>>Psychologically, relativity
prevails..<BR>><BR>>SIMPLEST FORMS<BR>><BR>>The moving average is
the simplest form of adaptation-level. Moving average<BR>>crossover rules
accurately signal the onset of periods of returns outside<BR>>the norm,
whether positive or negative. This makes moving average crossovers<BR>>useful
to traders who want to get a boost on entering or exiting stocks
or<BR>>funds.<BR>><BR>>The oscillator is also based on
adaptation-level, although in a slightly<BR>>different way. Oscillators
generally begin by calculating a percentage<BR>>change of current price from
some previous price, where the previous price<BR>>is the adaptation-level or
reference point. The mind is attuned to<BR>>percentage changes because they
represent returns. If you bought Microsoft<BR>>Corp. stock (MSFT) at $50 and
it goes to $80, you make 60% before dividends.<BR>>If you bought Berkshire
Hathaway (BRK) at $4,000 and it rises to $4,030, the<BR>>same dollar gain,
you make 0.75% before dividends. It's the percentage<BR>>change that counts.
Relativity again.<BR>><BR>>Coppock reasoned that the market's emotional
state could be determined by<BR>>adding up the percentage changes over the
recent past to get a sense of the<BR>>market's momentum (and
oscillators are generally momentum indicators ). So<BR>>if we compare prices
relative to a year ago - which happens to be the most<BR>>common interval -
and we see that this month the market is up 15% over a<BR>>year ago, last
month it was up 12.5% over a year ago, and 10%, 7.5% and
5%,<BR>>respectively, the months before that, then we may judge that the
market is<BR>>gaining momentum and, like a trader watching for the upward
crossover of the<BR>>moving average, we may jump into the
market."<BR>><BR>>The MetaStockT formula for the Coppock Curve
is:<BR>><BR>>(MOV(ROC(MOV(C,22,S),250,%),150,E))/100<BR>><BR>><BR>></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle17><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle17><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Depending
on our indicator, we use 3 day, 10 day, 12 day, 14 day, 20 day, 22 day and 50
day periods, comparing the indicator to itself back n days.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Again, these are the time periods that
we have found applicable for our own indicators and they may or may not work
for anybody else.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Our final
indicator (the one we call “SP39”) is a sum of SP33 through SP38 that falls in
the range of +10 to –10.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>The SP39 components
are binary waves and result in 1, 2, or in one case 3 being added algebraically
to come up with SP39. <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle17><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The main
difference between our time periods and yours (why we don’t look at anything
longer than 50 days) is that we’re dealing in futures as opposed to individual
stocks.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>As an example, we use time
periods of 14 days on the short side and 50 days for our momentum indicators.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle17><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Again,
there was nothing fancy here other than long hours and hard work testing these
time periods out by hand.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Following
that up with weighting factors that were applied to each individual indicator
(determined by profitability of that particular indicator) and ultimately
building a set of trading rules.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</span>The final result being one indicator, that when combined with our “contrary”
(a representation of the strength of that days trading), provided us with an
indication of the direction the market would take based upon prior history.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle17><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I might add
one more thing to my comments.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>We
derived and tested all of our indicator components MANUALLY!<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Even though I will have been in the
computer industry for 40 years next year (starting as an IBM SE in 1961), and prefer
to crank out the tests using Systems Tester (or Excel or TAS or whatever), we
feel that this preliminary stage MUST BE DONE BY HAND.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span><u>Sorry for the emphasis, but this is
something we feel quite strongly about.</u><span style="mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span>The reason for this is that working with the numbers will give
you a feel for how they move and what they represent in the price movement.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>More than once, we changed components
or time periods based on the “feel” we developed testing out our individual
indicators.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>These individual
components were then combined into the six indicators that comprise SP39.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Once we reach this stage, we will use
automation to test our system, using the Open for both entry and exit points
(this eliminates any wishful thinking about picking a price).<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Mechanical testing also eliminates any
bias or wishful thinking on our part in determining whether we should make a
trade or not.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>In the past. we
have, more than once, selected the wrong entry and/or exit point based on
wishful thinking or a wishful interpretation of the trading rules. </span></font></span><span
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color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>This is
how we built our basic system.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>For
the last several years we have been testing it, working with the weights,
adding or substracting a bullish bias, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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Trading,<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>A.J. Maas<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, February 27, 2000
4:53 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Metastock-List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: B..
contrarian...Coppock Curve</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>As you can
see from the older mails below, there are quite a few CC indicators around.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>The
Curves: Indicators,Momentums,Oscillators,SysTests.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>The one I am
using is a 3-week tradable version of the one I had already written in the top
mail:</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Name: Coppock
Curve - LT Momentum</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Formula:</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>{1).
Calculate the % change in value from 14 months ago.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>2). Calculate
the % change in value from 11 months ago.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>3). Add 1 +
2. 4). The Coppock indicator is the
10-month</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>(220days) weighted average
of 3. 4). Original Modified</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>to a 3-week
version for trading purposes. 5). Overlay for</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>trigger with
a 14-day SMA, AJM.}</span></font><font size=2 color=black><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Mov((CLOSE-Ref(C,-300))/(Ref(C,-300)*0.01)+<br>
(CLOSE-Ref(C,-240))/(Ref(C,-240)*0.01),15,W)</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>Regards,<br>
Ton Maas<br>
</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><a
href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</span></font></a><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when
replying.<br>
Homepage </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><a
href="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";><font size=2><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas</span></font></a></span></font><font
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I have formatted my disk and lost all my custom formulas for
metastock. Can you please send me the exploration for 60 day high,
where today's 60 day high is bigger than yesterday?
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