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<DIV><FONT size=2>< Just a suggestion, try changing 33.3 to 37.50 and 66.7 to
62.50</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Why not :"try changing 33.3 to 27.50 and 66.7 to
72.50" ?????</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>All these suggested Floating levels is not what is required
here, makes a hell of a $ difference and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>besides, they just won't match !!. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Correct is a lot different than just
"a-grasp-from-the-sky" substitution, especialy when defined for a
level.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>ONLY correct Decimal-levels for Fractals ARE :</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>12.5 = 1/8 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>25 = 1/4 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>33.3 = 1/3
<---- </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>50 = 1/2 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>66.7 = 2/3
<----</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>75 = 3/4 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>87.5 = 7/8 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>100 = 1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>112.5= 1 1/8</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>125 = 1 1/4</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>133.3= 1 1/3 <----</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>150 = 1 1/2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>etc. </FONT></DIV></FONT>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Since MSK is well advanced + ahead of its time(in this
department), </FONT><FONT size=2>have</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>this ONLY correct </FONT><FONT size=2>Decimal/Fractal set up
</FONT><FONT size=2>already </FONT><FONT size=2>(as a Customizer) WRITTEN
</FONT><FONT size=2>for</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>indicator, eg </FONT><FONT size=2>see previous mail (Fractal
Retracements), </FONT><FONT size=2>eg thus no need for try-outs either
!!.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas<BR><A
href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Dismiss the
".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.<BR>Homepage <A
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SteveZ
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:technifilter@xxxxxxxxxxx";
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> dinsdag 15 februari 2000
17:55</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [technifilter] Fibonachi
Lines</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><TT>From:</TT> <TT>"SteveZ" <<A
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For my preferences then, I would like to enable
it to give lines @ the Decimal-levels:
<DIV> 0 12.5 25 33.3
50 66.7 75 87.5
100 112.5 125
133.3 150 etc.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><FONT face=Arial size=2> Just a
suggestion, try changing 33.3 to 37.50 and 66.7 to 62.50</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Like I
said, I know nothing about Wade Cook other than what my friend George has told
me.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>George’s trades last about 30
days and he locks in his profits (pending market action) when he takes his
position.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>He does 5 or 6 trades
each month.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>George did tell me
that he is very conservative with his own trading insofar as he didn’t have a
lot of capital to start with (<$100k).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</span>He told me that you have to determine how to apply the techniques as
there are many ways to apply the system he learned in the seminar he attended.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I don’t know how much or how little he’s
making other than he was a blue collar employee before he got laid off and he
is now buying a new BMW for cash.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>With
regard to Wade Cook or any of these gurus, I take them all with a grain of
salt.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>The last seminar I attended
was in the 60s run by Larry Williams, FWIW.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span>That’s why I noted that maybe his techniques only works when
you’re in the end of a monster bull market when most securities are priced
beyond reason. </span></font></span><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2
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class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>My
philosophy is slightly different because I’m not sure that any of the
prepackaged indicators in MS are worth a dime.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span>I think you have to develop your own (either group some of
the packaged ones with your own or totally develop your own system as we have
done) otherwise anybody will be able to eventually duplicate your work with the
published indicators. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Remember the
old addage about 10,000 monkeys and 10,000 typewriters and Shakesphere.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We look at
Bollinger Bands and the RSI just to give ourself an idea where we might be in
the move, but use neither in our trading.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</span>We are constantly working on fine tuning our indicators insofar as we
have found that nothing lasts forever.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</span>We monitor several different trading systems (all based on our basic
indicators) to see which one might be working better at the current time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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original post had to do with a conservative system with trades lasting 30 to 60
days.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I was just passing along
information about one a friend of mine uses quite successfully and the trades
are all in the 30 day range.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>For
the type of trading I do, I would suggest taking the next two years off and try
to develop your own system and trade on paper for at least 2 years (that’s the
way I started).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>After you develop
a “feel” for your market, then you can risk some of your capital.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Other than that, Jim Greening has been
quite open about his methodology as have a couple of others.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Shawn Andrews<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 15, 2000
9:09 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Trading goals &
Wade Cook</span></font></p>
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style='color:black'> <br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [<a
href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>]On</span></i>
<br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>Behalf Of URNMOR@xxxxxxx</span></i> <br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 7:01 PM</span></i>
<br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</span></i> <br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>Subject: Trading goals</span></i> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-right:1.0in;margin-left:1.5in'><i><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;font-style:
italic'>To be very successful as a trader what should one expect for a yearly
return</span></font></i><font color=black><span style='color:black'> <br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>on their trades. I am not referring to
a day trader or a florr trader but</span></i> <br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>one whose philosophy is to buy and sell a
position normally within 30 to 60</span></i> <br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>days. I am trying toestablish a goal
but I am also looking for a benchmark.</span></i> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-right:1.0in;margin-left:1.5in'><i><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;font-style:
italic'>Thanks for any assistance</span></font></i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><br>
In my opinion you are making a two fold mistake. Seeking consensus on
what a sucessful trader should expect is like following the wallstreet
herd mentalitiy of "Relative Performance", (Comparing ones
performance to others.). This is in stark contrast to "Absolute
Performance", (Comparing your own performance to yourself) which pioneers
of Hedge Funds follow. </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I would in your case purchase a software
system that analyzes you (Rina Management Systems for example), and actually do
some TA work on your own performance. From there you should be able to make
reasonable predictioins of what kind of performance to expect. </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>And as to Wade Cook. Remember Livemore's
words "IF there was any easy money lying arround, no one will force it
into your pocket." If this Guy indeed has a system that works, why on
earth is he making his money by selling. (Maybe is the matyr or Phylanthropist
from Wallstreet.) Chances are he went broke, and is selling his new would be
toy to the next suckers for the slaughter house. less than 2 years ago he was
under a bunch of lawsuits from people who lost money. <br>
</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>-- <br>
"It is not how right or how wrong you are that matters, <br>
But how much money you make when right and how much <br>
money you do not lose when wrong" .... </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> Quaerendo Invenietis <br>
</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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