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Well Mr. MAAS,
It seems that you have created a new set of Vodoo - The Maas Retracement
Levels.
I can't wait to read the article in Stocks and Commodities Magazine and I'm
sure you have a book in the works to follow. Fractal What? did those
Fractals 1/4 MAs or whatever show a hit on that big day in October of 1987.
Pick a market, any market,
DJIA, or Nikkei or Kangaroo Index.
However, with Equis's promised interface coupled with your favorite Power
Basic, you should be able to develop a loop for calculating fractals with
sufficient quantity to find something that worked on that funny little
statistic in Oct of 87. The Do Loop you program should eventually converge
to the fib retracement that was hit on that day.
A 3% raise, that Much. And in a land where they virtually tax everything
away, I suppose a raise isn't worth very much anyway.
Question to ponder:
If the internet has made trading accessible anywhere in the world, why don't
we traders all move to a country, or even create a new country on a rock
somewhere, where there is no Capital Gains Tax?
Kevin Campbell
In a message dated 1/12/00 6:25:59 PM Central Standard Time,
anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx writes:
> Subj: Re: Fib MA's and the S&P
> Date: 1/12/00 6:25:59 PM Central Standard Time
> From: anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx (A.J. Maas)
> Sender: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Reply-to: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (RTList), metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
(Metastock-
> List)
>
> Sorry, Steve, could not resist.
>
> Which of the following is true:
> Gann has got someting to do with the stock-exchanges, Elliott has got
> something to do with the stock-bourses,
> the fib-fantasy-theory has got something to do with the stock-market ?????
>
> Being related means (bloodlined/hooked/connected), doesn't that make your
> indicators very ancient
> (800 years ago), eg at a time that they might have worked and provided for
> the miracles on the exchanges
> back then ?
> Shit, they hadn't even started back than, eg the first historical evidence
> of people trading and betting
> (taking options) on shipped cargo loads + their arrival times (eg the birth
> of the first public outdoor held
> exchange markets) appeared 'only' in the very recent history, eg in the
late
> Golden Century
> (still some 300 years ago), and some well over 500 years later than when
Fab
> saw his holy Maria ?
> Oh well.
>
> Since modern times has revealed itself in that the historical witch-hunts
> and other ku-klux-clan alike stuff
> was due to mankind itself by some men starting out hoaxes, eg by word of
> mouth, eg one man
> -out of anger swearing- would give another person(woman) a nick-name, and
> than suddenly all men believed
> the hoax and than made out that that person(woman) was also what that name
> comprised and that
> therefore that person(woman) was also to be put on the burning staple?
> Eg, ain't it time you outgrow this childish parroting stuff, that was
> thought to you by your master parrots
> at the CMT-course?
>
> As of Jan 1st, 2000 my wage's paycheck got a 3% rise, does that make (the
> rise/my employer/me) also
> ancient + fib related, eg is (he, my employer/it, the rise/me) therefore
> also a now a modern day version of
> the fib(ulous) natural miracle story ?
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Back to the markets:
>
> What near future forcast can I get from these ave's? How should I interpret
> them on your picture?
> That is what was not so very clear.
>
> If any, I can see that there is a great bending arch-movement bowing
> downwards by Mr SPX , and
> done so within the horizontal trading ranges and is further moving
> (sideways/down) in smaller up+down waves.
> And since these ave's are not put on a 'simple + plain bar' chart also
> (bloom/hide) the fact that
> the 7/8 fractal ma solidly resides on a much lower level, eg on a level
than
> cannot be seen on your
> 'exponental + volume candled' chart.
> Let alone shows where the also present and solid 3/2 fractal ma support (eg
> the SMA150) resides.
>
> Here are the moves:
>
> near Nov end - hitted the 1/8 fractal ma (12.5)
> on Nov end - hitted the 1/4 fractal ma (25)
> mid Dec - hitted the 1/3 fractal ma (33.3)
> early Jan - hitted the 2/3 fractal ma (66.7)
> now solidly - due to hit the 7/8 fractal ma (87.5)
> near future - eventualy out to hit the solid 3/2 fractal ma
> (150)
>
> This is the stuff you will not get thought and will not ever learn by
> continue fib-parrot-ing, eg this is
> home-brewed self-a-steam-ed financial cooking working for you.
> This is, like your ma's, also not ever usefull stuff to ever build a
(solid)
> mechanical trade-system on.
> Only eye-balling can help the reader determine, this also mostly
afterwards,
> what the correct level
> was/has been to (do/get out of) a trade.
>
> Above are projections(targets) only, (and/but) only history will tell if
> they shall all come true.
> For that I kinda like your "Momentum play" signals better. My mechinical
> momentum IMT/ST system
> for that matter generated only for today (0112) many sell signals, of which
> was one.........Mr SPX.
> And the buy signal got only generated last
> Oct99..............................
>
> Knowing too, you to be a serious trader, and that my scepticism towards
that
> mediocre so called
> 'natural wonders" based fib-theory is also known to you, know that you will
> not (be/get) offended by my
> at the top made (silly/humorous/evidential) remarks.
>
> Regards,
> Ton Maas
> ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying and
> note the new address change. Also for my Homepage
> http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Karnish
> To: RTList ; metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: dinsdag 11 januari 2000 2:38
> Subject: Fib MA's and the S&P
>
>
> List,
>
> Sometimes weeks fly by and I don't always get around to looking at all my
> 297 indicators, templates and layouts. As a mechanical, contrarian,
> oscillator trader, I'd prefer not to be influenced by the subjectivity of
> interpretive approaches (Gann, Elliot, etc.). Thinking hurts my head. I'm
> all "thunk" out. I spent thousands of hours refining my love: momentum
> oscillators (and it took it's toll on my brain). Having said that...I do
> enjoy the "dance of the fib averages". They offer great support and
> resistance areas...(or is this just another hairy coincidence?).
>
> Steve Karnish
> Cedar Creek Trading
> http://www.cedarcreektrading.com
>
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> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV>Sorry, Steve, could not resist.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Which of the following is true:</DIV>
> <DIV>Gann has got someting to do with the stock-exchanges, Elliott
> has got something to do with the
> stock-bourses,</DIV>
> <DIV>the fib-fantasy-theory has got something to do with
> the stock-market ?????</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Being related means (bloodlined/hooked/connected), doesn't
> that make your indicators very ancient</DIV>
> <DIV>(800 years ago), eg at a time that
> they might have worked and provided for the miracles on
> the exchanges</DIV>
> <DIV>back then ?</DIV>
> <DIV>Shit, they hadn't even started back than, eg the first
> historical evidence of people trading and
> betting</DIV>
> <DIV>(taking options) on shipped
> cargo loads + their arrival times
> (eg the birth of the first public
> outdoor held</DIV>
> <DIV>exchange markets) appeared 'only' in the
> very recent history, eg in the late
> Golden Century</DIV>
> <DIV>(still some 300 years ago), and some well over 500 years later
> than when Fab saw his holy Maria
> ?</DIV>
> <DIV>Oh well.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>
> <DIV>Since modern times has revealed itself in that the
> historical witch-hunts and other ku-klux-clan alike stuff</DIV>
> <DIV>was due to mankind itself by
> some men starting out hoaxes, eg by word of mouth, eg one man</DIV>
> <DIV> -out of anger swearing- would give
> another person(woman) a nick-name, and
> than suddenly all men believed</DIV>
> <DIV>the hoax and than made out that that
> person(woman) was also what that name comprised and that</
> DIV>
> <DIV>therefore that person(woman) was also to
> be put on the burning staple?</DIV>
> <DIV>Eg, ain't it time you outgrow this childish
> parroting stuff, that was thought to you by your master
> parrots</DIV>
> <DIV>at the CMT-course?</DIV></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>
> <DIV>As of Jan 1st, 2000 my wage's paycheck got a 3% rise, does
> that make (the rise/my employer/me) also</DIV>
> <DIV>ancient + fib related, eg is (he, my employer/it, the rise/me)
> therefore also a now a modern day version of</DIV>
> <DIV>the fib(ulous) natural miracle story ?</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>--------------------------------------------------------------------</
> DIV>
> <DIV>Back to the markets:</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>What near future forcast can I get from these ave's? How
> should I interpret them on your picture?</DIV></DIV>
> <DIV>That is what was not so very clear.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>If any, I can see that there is a great bending arch-movement
> bowing downwards by Mr SPX ,
> and</DIV>
> <DIV>done so within the horizontal trading ranges and is further
> moving (sideways/down) in smaller up+down waves.</DIV>
> <DIV>
> <DIV>And since these ave's are not put on a
> 'simple + plain bar' chart also (bloom/hide) the fact
> that</DIV>
> <DIV>the 7/8 fractal ma solidly resides on a much lower level,
> eg on a level than cannot
> be seen on your</DIV>
> <DIV>'exponental + volume candled' chart.
> </DIV>
> <DIV>Let alone shows where the also present and solid 3/2
> fractal ma support (eg the SMA150) resides.</DIV></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Here are the moves:</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV> near
> Nov end - hitted the 1/8 fractal ma
> (12.5)</DIV>
>
<DIV>
>
> on Nov end - hitted the 1/4 fractal ma (25)</DIV>
>
<DIV>
>
> mid Dec - hitted the 1/3 fractal ma (33.3)</DIV>
>
<DIV>
>
> early Jan - hitted the 2/3 fractal ma (66.7)</DIV>
>
<DIV>
>
> now solidly - due to hit the 7/8 fractal ma (87.5)</DIV>
>
<DIV>
>
> near future - eventualy out to hit the solid 3/2 fractal ma
> (150)</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>This is the stuff you will not get thought and will not ever
> learn by continue fib-parrot-ing, eg this is</DIV>
> <DIV>home-brewed self-a-steam-ed financial cooking working for you.</DIV>
>
> <DIV>This is, like your ma's, also not ever usefull stuff to ever
> build a (solid) mechanical trade-system on.</DIV>
> <DIV>Only eye-balling can help the reader determine, this also
> mostly afterwards, what the correct level</DIV>
> <DIV>was/has been to (do/get out of) a
> trade.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Above are projections(targets) only,
> (and/but) only history will tell if they shall all come true.</DIV>
> <DIV>For that I kinda like your "Momentum play" signals better. My
> mechinical momentum IMT/ST system</DIV>
> <DIV>for that matter generated only for today
> (0112) many sell signals, of which was one.........Mr SPX.</DIV>
> <DIV>And the buy signal got only generated last
> Oct99..............................</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>
> <DIV>Knowing too, you to be a serious trader, and that my
> scepticism towards that mediocre so called</DIV>
> <DIV>'natural wonders" based fib-theory is also
> known to you, know that you will not (be/get) offended by my</DIV>
> <DIV>at the top made
> (silly/humorous/evidential) remarks.</DIV></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Regards,
> Ton Maas
> ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying and
> note the new address change. Also for my Homepage
> <A HREF="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas</
A></DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><
> BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-
> RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt
> arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND:
#e4e4e4;
> FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: <A
HREF="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>Steve Karnish</A> </DIV> <
> DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A
HREF="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>RTList</A> ; <A
HREF="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: dinsdag 11 januari 2000 2:38</DIV> <
> DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Fib MA's and the S&P</DIV> <DIV>
> </DIV> <DIV>List,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sometimes weeks fly
> by and I don't always get around to looking at all my 297 indicators,
> templates and layouts. As a mechanical, contrarian, oscillator
trader,
> I'd prefer not to be influenced by the subjectivity of interpretive
> approaches (Gann, Elliot, etc.). Thinking hurts my head. I'm
> all "thunk" out. I spent thousands of hours refining my love:
> momentum oscillators (and it took it's toll on my brain). Having
said
> that...I do enjoy the "dance of the fib averages". They offer
> great support and resistance areas...(or is this just another hairy
> coincidence?).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Steve Karnish
> Cedar Creek Trading
> <A HREF="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com
</A></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
>
>
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