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MOOSE Approach?&nbsp; Mein Gott!&nbsp; What's that?&nbsp; Looked at the
website but didn't see any antlers?&nbsp; Will you be posting the new MOOSE
signals, or just driving the greedy, anal-retentive members of the group
out of their minds with hints?
<p>Philip
<p>P.S.&nbsp; How's the test prep going?
<p>Steve Karnish wrote:
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<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>List,</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Here's
a "freebie".&nbsp; I know it's not the my deeply guarded secrets about
"Cybercast" and my new and improved "MOOSE" approach, but hey, it's free
and simple.&nbsp; This is the "loss leader".&nbsp; All those that profit
"wildly" from this approach are obligated to buy "mondo expensivo" proprietary
systems that I will market in 2000.&nbsp; Yes, Mark Brown, I have nasty
motives behind my posts. First you give your work away for a couple of
years and then you "screw" everyone by "forcing" them to buy your software.&nbsp;
But before I put the "screws" to everyone.&nbsp; I challenge the list to
post a credible system that has a better return than the attached approach.&nbsp;
I'm all "eyes".&nbsp; Many are quick to ridicule, few actually disclose
any formulae or approaches.&nbsp; The BB Histogram that I use has slightly
different numbers substituted in the formula than the "off the shelf" one
that I present.&nbsp; This shouldn't affect the profits.</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>BB
Histogram:</font></font>&nbsp;
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>((C+2*Std(C,20)-Mov(C,20,S))/(4*(Std(C,20)))*100)</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Sell
the opening days after the BB Histogram penetrates 100 and buy when it
penetrates zero.&nbsp; Add to positions when the BB Histo leaves "above
100" or "below zero" and then "repenetrates" the trigger levels (see attached
charts).</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I believe
this approach has recorded 11 straight S&amp;P winners, with 700+ points.&nbsp;
"But Steve, this system must not be working any more because it is losing
the last trade you put on".&nbsp; Right!</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>My
only disclaimer is that I guarantee that I will sell software, charting
services and anything else that I can think of to make a "buck" in 2000.&nbsp;
In the meantime, suck all the free stuff from me you can copy.&nbsp; And
most of all, please note, the biggest antagonists on the list provide absolutely
"zero" when it comes to helping you trade.&nbsp; Seek the answers from
"within" (with some shortcutting help from people that are willing to share).</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Steve
Karnish</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Cedar Creek Trading</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>http://www.abbracadabra.com/cybercast/</font></font></blockquote>

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What are the titles of these two books.  I havn't read them yet.

Mark

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> In a message dated 12/11/1999 6:11:18 PM Central Daylight Time,
> lissen@xxxxxxx writes:
>
> << Joe Granville >>
> I remember that statement, Lionel, as I was a fan of Joe Granville back in
> those days. His comment was: Half of the people that bought it (his book)
> wouldn't read it; of the half that read it, half wouldn't understand it;
of
> that half that understood it, most wouldn't apply the information
correctly;
> of the few that did, most already knew most of what he said; the few
> remaining wouldn't make any difference.
> I still have that book and you're right, it's the best of the books that
he
> wrote. In later years, he got away from what he wrote in that book and
that's
> when he started getting into trouble. I think his second book on OBV was
his
> next best. Both rank in the top ten of the almost 160 books I've read over
> the years.
> Good trading,
> Joe Nemecek
>