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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Guy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp; I agree with you when you said: 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp; "<EM>It&#8217;s too easy for the players to keep 
the run going a little further than necessary in order to trigger signals for 
various charting systems."</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;I have come to rely on the false signals as 
much as the true signals.......what do I mean&nbsp;by this?</FONT><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;I believe these levels&nbsp;still have 
great&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>significance......If the market fails 
to&nbsp;validate a signal at the breaking of a support level (such as a neck 
line) then immediately reverse</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>position and go long! These false signals can be 
very reliable.</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2> I am also&nbsp;experimenting with 
a&nbsp;time/price confirmation method that involves</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>either a close to remain below/above the 
signal</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp; for 3 consecutive days&nbsp;OR the 
price to move greater than the Average True Range below/above</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the signal, but this is still under observation and 
I haven't validated if this is beneficial yet.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;As for this particular chart,</FONT><FONT 
face=Arial size=2> my short term momentum is close to the oversold area, so we 
could see a move up, but if the close remains below</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>this neck line through next week, (especially if 
the price closes 25+ points lower on Monday), then I would start looking at this 
neck-line</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>as resistance. This is all the "classic"&nbsp; John 
Murphy&nbsp; trend - following style..........but Guy, I have been watching you 
post your "Contrarian" trades </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>for </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>several years 
with great interest. I started messing around with some code many months back, 
wanting to develop an overbought/oversold</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>system......but just couldn't seem to get anywhere. 
Recently I have made a little progress in this direction (see chart below) and I 
am slowly</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>gaining confidence and familiarity with it. It sure 
is hard to adjust to a "Contrarian" mind-set, when your used to waiting for 
confirmation of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the trend!! This may all seem like a baby step 
compared to your method...but this is a BIG LEAP for some one who usually just 
follows</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the crowd (trend following) instead of stepping out 
in the lead (contrarian)..........(why do I feel like I am stepping out in front 
of a bus?)&lt;g&gt;.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If&nbsp;you will noticed, there are price bands 
based on daily, weekly and monthly periods. I view the bands&nbsp;similar to 
support and resistance, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>in that if the price is outside of the bands I will 
wait until it moves inside before taking a position (notice blue arrows....I 
still need some confirmation)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I also use short and long term momentum in these 
decisions. The pink arrows are signals from a true contrarian system, I use them 
to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>give early warnings on my weekly bands. I placed 
the yellow arrow on the 13th marking a "paper trade", and I have a price target 
around the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1230-1240 range based on the weekly and monthly 
band.&nbsp; It seems the best signals come when the price is near two or more 
time frames.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp; Guy, thanks for your comments, I always look 
forward to your post.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp; Adam</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
href="mailto:grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Guy Tann</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 15, 1999 10:55 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: S&amp;P500</DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">This is 
one of the reasons we don&#8217;t rely on charts, etc.<SPAN 
style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It&#8217;s too easy for the players to keep 
the run going a little further than necessary in order to trigger signals for 
various charting systems.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Anyway, 
I haven&#8217;t completed my calculations yet, but it&#8217;s possible we might have a buy 
signal for Monday morning.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Like I 
said, I won&#8217;t know until I complete my calculations, but we&#8217;ll 
see.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Glad we 
didn&#8217;t have that big spike down on Thursday (enough to get me to take my profits 
and hope for a key reversal), so we kept all of our 
shorts.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">We had 
an Intermediate Term Buy Signal as of 10/13/99 and are waiting for the 
confirmation of our Short Term Buy Signal.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; 
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">It&#8217;s 
possible that we might have some margin calls this weekend due to the S&amp;P 
activity, which would mean a negative opening on Monday.<SPAN 
style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>If you had some big cajones, that might 
be the time to go long.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> 
owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B><SPAN 
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>vonhef<BR><B><SPAN 
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, October 15, 1999 3:25 
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> MetaStock<BR><B><SPAN 
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> S&amp;P500</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=black face=Arial 
size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Well, as 
most of you have probably noticed, the S&amp;P 500 has dropped below the 
neck-line.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN 
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=black face=Arial 
size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In the 
classic technical analysis this is a very bearish signal. My long term trend has 
also </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN 
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT color=black face=Arial 
size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">turned 
down today......this is the first time since October of 98. </SPAN></FONT><FONT 
color=black><SPAN 
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size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">As 
always....comments welcome.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN 
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Adam Hefner</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN 
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