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----- Original Message -----
From: metastock-digest <owner-metastock-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 11:30 PM
Subject: metastock-digest V1 #735


>
> metastock-digest       Thursday, October 7 1999       Volume 01 : Number
735
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:37:50 -0500
> From: "Frank McClendon" <fmcclen1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Pinnacle Data and CSI Unfair Advantage - opinions?
>
> Guy-
>
> 1) Futures Magazine just published an article stating CSI had the
> overall cleanest data of 10 vendors tested.
> Of people I've talked too about "clean data" all have leaned towards
> CSI being the best.
>
> 2-5) Imo, UA makes data maintenance almost effortless after the
> initial setup. Getting and maintaining good data today is a vastly
> easier, cleaner, quicker process than even 5-10 years ago. UA builds
> almost any sort of continuous contract you want, it has enormous
> flexibility. You can build all sorts of export routines.
>
> Imo, it's worth giving it a shot just to try it out for 1-3 months. If
> you can spend a lot of time with it early on I think you will be
> impressed enough to switch, but choosing a data vendor is something
> that for many comes down to 1) something very personal about trading
> style and 2) getting over the inertia of changing providers. I have a
> few trader acquaintances who just don't want to put the time into
> changing, but complain about this gripe or that with their current
> provider. We're all human. <g>
>
> I've used CSI for a long time, so maybe some others will chime in. I
> also have a high speed cable modem with direct internet access so my
> downloads take about 15 seconds or less. Distribution takes a couple
> of minutes or more depending on which night (which routines I am
> running). This is a far cry from the time I used to spend dealing with
> and maintaining data.
>
> I've read this list for a while but haven't posted. It is quite a bit
> cleaner (which I am glad to see) than the Omega list.
>
> Frank
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:00:27 +0100
> From: "A.J. Maas" <anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Windows 2000 + Intel's 64-bit Itanium (was Merced)
>
> FWIW.
>
> Regards,
> Ton Maas
> ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying and
> note the new address change. Also for my Homepage
> http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas
>
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> WinInfo: Windows news and information -- Copyright (c) 1995-9 Paul
Thurrott
> Visit WinInfo on the Web at WUGNET: http://www.wugnet.com/wininfo
>
___________________________________________________________________________
>
> Today's WinInfo:
>   Alert: WUGNET server down
>   Merced no more: Intel names IA-64 as 'Itanium'
>   Microsoft announces Exchange Server 2000 Beta 3
>   Microsoft hits the road with Windows 2000
>   Microsoft announces PhotoDraw 2000 version 2
>
>                        --------shortened version---------------
>
>
> Merced no more: Intel names IA-64 as 'Itanium'
>
> Intel Corporation on Monday announced that its upcoming 64-bit IA-64
> microprocessor, code-named "Merced," would be marketed under the name
> "Itanium." The company also announced that five different operating 64-bit
> systems, including Windows 2000 and Linux, have already booted on the
> processor, which is currently being beta tested.
>
> "The Intel Itanium processor represents a new level of processor
capability
> that will be the driving force for the Internet economy," said Jami Dover,
> vice president of Intel's Sales and Marketing Group. "The Itanium brand
> represents the strength and performance of the unique processor features
> that provide customers with a reliable and responsive foundation for
> e-Business in the future."
>
> Processors that follow Itanium will retain the Roman numeral scheme Intel
> used with the Pentium line, so the processor code-named "McKinley" will
> likely be named Itanium II when it debuts in 2001. Merced is slated for a
> mid-2000 release.
>
>
>
> Microsoft hits the road with Windows 2000
>
> Microsoft Corporation and Windows NT Magazine on Monday launched a 40-city
> tour to promote Windows 2000 at computer user groups around the United
> States. Dubbed the Windows 2000 Customer Preview Tour, the goal is to let
> people get hands on experience with Windows 2000 while meeting with
members
> of the Windows 2000 engineering team.
>
> "We have learned that the best way for people to understand the benefits
of
> a product like Windows 2000 is to see it and use it," said Jim Allchin,
> senior vice president of the Platforms Division at Microsoft. "The Windows
> 2000 Customer Preview Tour is a great opportunity for us to solicit
feedback
> on our product and give customers the tips, tricks and tools they need to
be
> successful with Windows 2000."
>
> At each stop on the tour, a 90-minute presentation will be used to
> demonstrate Windows 2000. Members of the engineering team, such as product
> managers, program managers, and technology specialists will be on hand to
> answer questions. If you're interested in attending the tour, you can see
> whether your city is on the schedule at the Windows 2000 Customer Preview
> Tour Web site:
>   http://www.microsoft.com/windows/server/beta/support/usergroups.asp
>
>
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>
> Visit WinInfo on the Web at WUGNET: http://www.wugnet.com/wininfo
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:17:18 +0100
> From: "A.J. Maas" <anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: F1 me:  UK historical and EOD quotes
>
> 1. Market Eye(DataStream) Data Services - LSE, International Indexes and
>     Commodities quotes
>     = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
> From the main page you can choose (requires registration, Premium is
fee-based)
>
> http://www.market-eye.co.uk/scripts/DataDownLoad.dll?HandleClosingPrices
>
> Standard services is Close only, eg current + historical Closes(C).
>
> http://www.market-eye.co.uk/pscripts/search/IndicesRes.asp?Service=Premium
>
> This is the Premium services, eg current + historical O-H-L-C-V data.
>
>
> 2. Interactive Charting - Try Free for a Week
>     = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
> Market-Eye is pleased to announce that it is about to launch a
sophisticated
> new charting service. This service allows you to plot multiple instruments
on
> a single graph, apply technical indicators to them and specify the exact
> date range for the graph.
> You can try the full Premium version of this service for a week for free
at
> http://charting.marketeye.co.uk
> Instructions on using this charting facility can be found on the page.
>
>
> Regards,
> Ton Maas
> ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying and
> note the new address change. Also for my Homepage
> http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas
>
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: Indy <Indy@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: maandag 4 oktober 1999 21:33
> Subject: F1 me: UK historical and EOD quotes
>
>
> > is there any web site to download U.K. market historical quote for some
> > companies also free or feeBased eod quotes providers?
> >
> > thx in advance
> >
> > indy
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:16:44 +0100
> From: "A.J. Maas" <anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Company Names & Symbols
>
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> 12a. Merge
>        After going through Step 11, use the Downloader's Merge-Tool to
have
> any current names/tickers
>        also get new security names, eg Merge the old files with the new
> (from the .Sym file) created
>        securities(see DL-Help|Index|Merge).
> or
> 12b. Convert
>        Export, (eg Convert to ASCII or Excel) your historical data to
> separate files (txt,csv,xls,asc), eg
>        files that can than (or later) always be Converted back into your
new
> (Downloader Data Files) security-files.
>        Multi-select the ASCII files and click Convert.
> or
> 12c. ASCII
>        In ASCII files, you are allowed to have a Name column, eg use the
> correct ASCII Millenium proof header
>        in a file, before using the DL's Convert-tool. The proper header
is:
> (eg convert a standard MetaStock
>        security-file to Ascii for the proper example).
>
>
<TICKER>,<NAME>,<PER>,<DTYYYYMMDD>,<OPEN>,<HIGH>,<LOW>,<CLOSE>,<VOL>,<OPENIN
> T>
> or
> 12d. Use Excel's Copy & Paste functions
>         a. from Downloader, either back and forth to an opened Spreadsheet
> or
>         b. from Downloader, to an opened Spreadsheet and click Save As
> (Excel 4.0 sheet), and use the
>             DL's Convert-tool to "import" the data back into the new
> (Downloader Date Files) securities
>
> 13. Automate previous steps by using programs like ScriptIt or AutoIt, eg
> especialy for multiple
>      tickers/names/securities.
>
> - -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The above is a follow up on previous mail.
>
> See my homepage(below) for info+examples on the programs+their
> script/language.
> If you can (easy) relate to the Metastock-formula language, than it is a
> piece of cake to
> automate anything else (thus also anything in Windows' OS).
> Use these programs too for automating any other (Windows or
> Windows-program's) tasks.
>
> You'll be truly amazed to find out how "comfortable" this all is & can be,
> when working on
> repeat-a-tive tasks, eg by just using ScripIt or AutoIt.
>
> Regards,
> Ton Maas
> ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying and
> note the new address change. Also for my Homepage
> http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Richard Harms
>   To: Metastock
>   Sent: woensdag 29 september 1999 3:13
>   Subject: Company Names & Symbols
>
>
>   Thanks AJ.  That worked fine for creating new charts.  What I'm
wondering
> though, Is there a way that you know of to add the company names to charts
> that I've already created or do I have to go through and recreate all the
> charts from scratch if I want them to have the company name attached as
> well.  Thanks
>
>   Richard H
>
>   Too many times we confuse motion with progress.  Cyclops
>
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> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>12a. Merge</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; After going =
> through Step=20
> 11, use the Downloader's Merge-Tool to have any current=20
> names/tickers</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; also&nbsp;get =
> new=20
> security names,&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=3D2>eg Merge the old files with =
> the new=20
> (from the .Sym file) created</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;securities(see=20
> DL-Help|Index|Merge).</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>or</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>12b.&nbsp;Convert</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT =
> size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Export,&nbsp;(eg=20
> Convert to ASCII or Excel) your historical&nbsp;data to&nbsp;separate =
> files=20
> (txt,csv,xls,asc), eg</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;files&nbsp;</FONT><FON=
> T=20
> size=3D2>that can&nbsp;than (or later)&nbsp;</FONT><FONT =
> size=3D2>always&nbsp;be=20
> Converted back into your&nbsp;new (Downloader Data Files)=20
> security-files.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Multi-select =
> the ASCII=20
> files and click Convert. </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>or</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>12c. ASCII</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In ASCII =
> files, you=20
> are allowed to have a Name column, eg use the correct ASCII Millenium =
> proof=20
> header</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; in a file, =
> before using=20
> the DL's Convert-tool.&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2>The =
> proper header=20
> is: (eg convert a standard MetaStock</FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
> &nbsp;security-file to Ascii for the proper&nbsp;example</FONT><FONT=20
> size=3D2>).</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D2>&lt;TICKER&gt;,&lt;NAME&gt;,&lt;PER&gt;,&lt;DTYYYYMMDD&gt;,&lt;O=
> PEN&gt;,&lt;HIGH&gt;,&lt;LOW&gt;,&lt;CLOSE&gt;,&lt;VOL&gt;,&lt;OPENINT&gt=
> ;<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
> size=3D2>or</FONT></DIV></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>12d. Use Excel's Copy &amp; Paste =
> functions</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; a. from =
> Downloader,=20
> either back and forth to an opened Spreadsheet or</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; b. from =
> Downloader,=20
> to an opened Spreadsheet and click Save As (Excel 4.0 sheet), and use=20
> the</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=

> p; DL's=20
> Convert-tool&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=3D2>to "import" the data back into =
> the new=20
> (Downloader Date Files) securities</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>13. Automate previous steps by using&nbsp;programs =
> like=20
> ScriptIt or AutoIt, eg especialy for multiple</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
> tickers/names/securities.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D2>-------------------------------------------------------------</F=
> ONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>The above is a follow up on previous =
> mail.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>See my homepage(below) for info+examples on the =
> programs+their=20
> script/language.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>If you can (easy) relate to the Metastock-formula =
> language,=20
> than it is a piece of cake to</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>automate anything else (thus also anything in =
> Windows'=20
> OS).</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Use these programs too for automating any other =
> (Windows or=20
> Windows-program's) tasks.</FONT>&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>You'll be truly amazed&nbsp;to find out how =
> "comfortable" this=20
> all is &amp; can be, when working on</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>repeat-a-tive tasks, eg </FONT><FONT size=3D2>by =
> just using=20
> ScripIt or AutoIt.</FONT></DIV></FONT><BR>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas<BR><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Di=
> smiss the=20
> ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying and<BR>note the new =
> address=20
> change. Also for my Homepage<BR><A=20
> href=3D"http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas<=
> /A></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
>   <DIV=20
>   style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
>   <A href=3D"mailto:Richard_Harms@xxxxxxxxxxx"=20
>   title=3DRichard_Harms@xxxxxxxxxxx>Richard Harms</A> </DIV>
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
>   href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"=20
>   title=3Dmetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Metastock</A> </DIV>
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> woensdag 29 september =
> 1999=20
>   3:13</DIV>
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Company Names &amp;=20
> Symbols</DIV>
>   <DIV><BR></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks AJ.&nbsp; That worked fine for =
> creating=20
>   new charts.&nbsp; What I'm wondering though, Is there a way that you =
> know of=20
>   to add the company names to charts that I've already created or do I =
> have to=20
>   go through and recreate all the charts from scratch if I want them to =
> have the=20
>   company name attached as well.&nbsp; Thanks</FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Richard H</FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Too many times we confuse motion with =
>
>   progress.&nbsp; Cyclops</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 19:35:41 -0400
> From: "MB" <marekbilinski@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Copying layouts
>
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> List:
>
> I had to re-install everything on my hard drive recently. What I want to
> know (if this ever happens again) is, Is it necessary to re-create all my
> layouts in order for me to have access to them or is there a way to use
> those that I had backed up?
>
> I am asking this because after I re-installed all my software, I copied my
> data onto my drive (using the same folder and partition names I used
before)
> and when I tried opening my Metastock layouts, it gave a me a "can't find
> file" message(or something like that). I received that message for every
> layout I tried opening, so I gave up and created all new ones.
>
> Is there a way?
>
> Marek
>
>
>
>
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
> class=3D968322523-05101999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D968322523-05101999>I had =
> to re-install=20
> everything on my hard drive recently. What I want to know (if this ever =
> happens=20
> again) is, Is it necessary to re-create all my layouts in order for me =
> to have=20
> access to them or is there a way to use those that I had backed=20
> up?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D968322523-05101999>I am =
> asking this=20
> because after I re-installed all my software, I copied my data onto my =
> drive=20
> (using the same folder and partition names I used before) and when I =
> tried=20
> opening my Metastock layouts, it gave a me a "can't find file" =
> message(or=20
> something like that). I received that message for every layout I tried =
> opening,=20
> so I gave up and created all new ones.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
> class=3D968322523-05101999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D968322523-05101999>Is =
> there a=20
> way?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
> class=3D968322523-05101999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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> class=3D968322523-05101999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:22:45 -0700
> From: "Steve Karnish" <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: In lieu of crash(trash) talk
>
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> List,
>
> From time to time, traders actually discuss "real" trades on this forum =
> (the current sugar debate).  This is a really great "idea" that should =
> be explored on a daily basis.  Think of it:  a place where "realtraders" =
> can exchange "real trading"  ideas.  It's a concept that could catch on.
>
> For those who monitor real trades in the grain market:
>
> 9/29:  Went short: corn (214.75), oats (116.00), & wheat (286.50); =
> (December contracts)
>
> 10/6:  Covered and went long oats (110.50)
>
> 10/7:  A close below 203 in Dec. corn and 262.25 in Dec. wheat triggers =
> long positions tomorrow.
>
> This has little to do with the crash of '29, Alan Green"spun", or all =
> those "politicos" conspiring to make my life miserable in the gold =
> market.  But, guess what?  Real people are in these real trades, making =
> real money, not letting the "news" influence their approach, and they =
> are certainly not sitting around theorizing about the rise and fall of =
> US economy. =20
>  =20
> Steve Karnish
> Cedar Creek Trading
> http://www.stny.rr.com/abbracadabra/cybercast/
>
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>List,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From time to time, traders actually =
> discuss "real"=20
> trades on this forum (the current sugar debate).&nbsp; This is a really =
> great=20
> "idea" that should be explored on a daily basis.&nbsp; Think of =
> it:&nbsp; a=20
> place where "realtraders" can exchange "real trading"&nbsp; ideas.&nbsp; =
> It's a=20
> concept that could catch on.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For those who monitor real trades in =
> the grain=20
> market:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>9/29:&nbsp; Went short: corn (214.75), =
> oats=20
> (116.00), &amp; wheat (286.50); (December contracts)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>10/6:&nbsp; Covered and went long oats=20
> (110.50)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>10/7:&nbsp; A close below 203 in Dec. =
> corn and=20
> 262.25 in Dec. wheat triggers long positions tomorrow.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This has little to do with the crash of =
> '29, Alan=20
> Green"spun", or all those "politicos" conspiring to make my life =
> miserable in=20
> the gold market.&nbsp; But, guess what?&nbsp; Real people are in these =
> real=20
> trades, making real money, not letting the "news" influence their =
> approach, and=20
> they are certainly not sitting around theorizing about the rise and fall =
> of US=20
> economy.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek =
> Trading<BR><A=20
> href=3D"http://www.stny.rr.com/abbracadabra/cybercast/";>http://www.stny.r=
> r.com/abbracadabra/cybercast/</A></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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>
> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:58:40 -0500
> From: "Al Taglavore" <altag@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: In lieu of crash(trash) talk
>
> Thank you..... well said.  A really great idea.
>
> Has anyone else determined that the stock BKS appears to be completing a
> reverse head and shoulders pattern and is trading at the neckline that
> should be a low risk trade?
>
> 10/01 went long 200s at 26.08.  If a close is below 26.06 I will exit 1/2
> the position. A close below 25.04 will close the remainder of the
position.
> A move up to 27.10 will add 100s to the position.
> H&S profit target 32.08.
> Real money was used.  Real money will be made or lost.
>
> Al Taglavore
> - ----------
> From: Steve Karnish <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: List <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: In lieu of crash(trash) talk
> Date: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 11:22 AM
>
> List,
>
> >From time to time, traders actually discuss "real" trades on this forum
> (the current sugar debate).  This is a really great "idea" that should be
> explored on a daily basis.  Think of it:  a place where "realtraders" can
> exchange "real trading"  ideas.  It's a concept that could catch on.
>
> For those who monitor real trades in the grain market:
>
> 9/29:  Went short: corn (214.75), oats (116.00), & wheat (286.50);
> (December contracts)
>
> 10/6:  Covered and went long oats (110.50)
>
> 10/7:  A close below 203 in Dec. corn and 262.25 in Dec. wheat triggers
> long positions tomorrow.
>
> This has little to do with the crash of '29, Alan Green"spun", or all
those
> "politicos" conspiring to make my life miserable in the gold market.  But,
> guess what?  Real people are in these real trades, making real money, not
> letting the "news" influence their approach, and they are certainly not
> sitting around theorizing about the rise and fall of US economy.
>
> Steve Karnish
> Cedar Creek Trading
> http://www.stny.rr.com/abbracadabra/cybercast/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:45:52 -0700
> From: "Steve Karnish" <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: In lieu of crash(trash) talk
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> Earl,
>
> Attached is a graphic representation of my last five wheat trades and my =
> current open position.  Looking at these positions you can see that in =
> each case, there was a strong market move the day before my position was =
> taken (circled in beautiful "magenta").  Every trade was proceeded by =
> market movement that was contrary to the position taken the following =
> day.  So I might ask, "Why wouldn't you want a weak close to trigger a =
> long in wheat"? =20
>
> I'm a mechanical swing trader who relies on momentum oscillators and =
> fibonacci retracements.  This year the mechanical approach (for wheat) =
> has triggered 27 trades (approximately one trade every seven trading =
> days).   It's traded 20 times successfully, and has posted 6 losses.  =
> The "possible 5th wave scenario" and deciding whether a patterns are =
> "terribly bullish" vs. "somewhat bullish" are subjective interpretations =
> of subjective technical approaches.  Nothing wrong with most of the =
> technical disciplines...I'm a student/teacher/cheerleader of many. =20
>
> In any event, I no longer ponder the completion of the fifth wave or =
> whether the stochastic is going trying double back and produce a =
> "failure swing".   I certainly don't care about crop conditions, =
> exports, carry over, etc.  Within each technical discipline there is =
> lots of room for subjective opinion.  Fundamentals were invented to =
> create a "fog" in the traders mind.  Some may feel wonderful about the =
> daily challenge of applying subjective technical analysis to the =
> markets...I gave it up a long time ago and sleep better since that time. =
>  Some may feel that fundamentals are important (good luck my little =
> sheep). =20
>
> When the market bottoms and the fifth wave is completed, I hope to be =
> aboard (on the long side) so that the "Elliot Wavers" will provide =
> upside momentum.  As we carry off the "bottom", I will immediately be =
> targeting my next short position. Whatever tomorrow brings, I can assure =
> you only one thing:  I will trade the market mechanically.=20
>
> Earl, please keep us posted to your decisions in the grain markets.  =
> Your astute comments are always interesting. =20
>
> Steve Karnish
> Cedar Creek Trading
> Featuring: "Cybercast"
> http://www.stny.rr.com/abbracadabra/cybercast/  =20
>
>
> - ----- Original Message -----=20
>   From: Earl Adamy=20
>   To: List=20
>   Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:27 AM
>   Subject: Re: In lieu of crash(trash) talk
>
>
>   I've been monitoring grains for a possible long position. I'm curious =
> as to why you would want a weak close to trigger long in wheat and corn? =
> Corn appears to have completed a possible 5th wave decline with two =
> closes under the 78% retracement which isn't terribly bullish. Of =
> particular note in corn is what (so far anyway) is a very tight double =
> inside day setup. Beans have a clearer wave structure however the 5th =
> wave appears to be incomplete. Meal is interesting looking. Can't make =
> up my mind about wheat.
>
>   Earl
>
>     ----- Original Message -----=20
>     From: Steve Karnish=20
>     To: List ; metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>     Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:22 AM
>     Subject: In lieu of crash(trash) talk
>
>
>     List,
>
>     From time to time, traders actually discuss "real" trades on this =
> forum (the current sugar debate).  This is a really great "idea" that =
> should be explored on a daily basis.  Think of it:  a place where =
> "realtraders" can exchange "real trading"  ideas.  It's a concept that =
> could catch on.
>     =20
>     For those who monitor real trades in the grain market:
>
>     9/29:  Went short: corn (214.75), oats (116.00), & wheat (286.50); =
> (December contracts)
>
>     10/6:  Covered and went long oats (110.50)
>
>     10/7:  A close below 203 in Dec. corn and 262.25 in Dec. wheat =
> triggers long positions tomorrow.
>
>     This has little to do with the crash of '29, Alan Green"spun", or =
> all those "politicos" conspiring to make my life miserable in the gold =
> market.  But, guess what?  Real people are in these real trades, making =
> real money, not letting the "news" influence their approach, and they =
> are certainly not sitting around theorizing about the rise and fall of =
> US economy. =20
>      =20
>     Steve Karnish
>     Cedar Creek Trading
>     http://www.stny.rr.com/abbracadabra/cybercast/
>
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Earl,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Attached is a graphic representation of =
> my last=20
> five wheat trades and my current open position.&nbsp; Looking at these =
> positions=20
> you can see that in each case, there was a strong market move the day =
> before my=20
> position was&nbsp;taken (circled in beautiful "magenta").&nbsp; Every =
> trade was=20
> proceeded by market movement that was contrary to the position taken the =
>
> following day.&nbsp; So I might ask, "Why wouldn't you want a weak close =
> to=20
> trigger a long in wheat"?&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm a mechanical swing trader&nbsp;who =
> relies on=20
> momentum oscillators and fibonacci retracements.&nbsp; This year the =
> mechanical=20
> approach (for wheat) has triggered 27 trades (approximately one trade =
> every=20
> seven trading days).&nbsp;  It's traded 20 times successfully, and has =
> posted 6=20
> losses.&nbsp; The "possible 5th wave scenario" and deciding whether a =
> patterns=20
> are "terribly bullish" vs. "somewhat bullish" are subjective =
> interpretations of=20
> subjective technical approaches.&nbsp; Nothing wrong with most of the =
> technical=20
> disciplines...I'm a student/teacher/cheerleader of many.&nbsp; =
> </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In any event, I no longer ponder the =
> completion of=20
> the fifth wave or whether the stochastic is going trying double back and =
> produce=20
> a "failure swing".&nbsp;&nbsp; I certainly don't care about crop =
> conditions,=20
> exports, carry over, etc.&nbsp; Within each technical discipline there =
> is lots=20
> of room for subjective opinion.&nbsp; Fundamentals were invented to =
> create a=20
> "fog" in the traders mind.&nbsp; Some may feel wonderful about the daily =
>
> challenge of applying subjective technical analysis to the markets...I =
> gave it=20
> up a long time ago and sleep better since that time.&nbsp; Some may feel =
> that=20
> fundamentals are important (good luck my little sheep).</FONT><FONT =
> face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When the market bottoms and the fifth =
> wave is=20
> completed, I hope to be aboard (on the long side) so that=20
> the&nbsp;"Elliot&nbsp;Wavers" will provide upside momentum.&nbsp; As we =
> carry=20
> off the "bottom", I will immediately be targeting my next short=20
> position.&nbsp;Whatever tomorrow brings, I can&nbsp;assure you&nbsp;only =
> one=20
> thing:&nbsp; I will trade the market mechanically.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Earl, please keep us posted to your =
> decisions in=20
> the grain markets.&nbsp; Your&nbsp;astute comments are=20
> always&nbsp;interesting.&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek=20
> Trading</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Featuring: "Cybercast"<BR><A=20
> href=3D"http://www.stny.rr.com/abbracadabra/cybercast/";>http://www.stny.r=
> r.com/abbracadabra/cybercast/</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
> </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
>   <DIV=20
>   style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
>   <A href=3D"mailto:eadamy@xxxxxxxxxx"; title=3Deadamy@xxxxxxxxxx>Earl =
> Adamy</A>=20
>   </DIV>
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
>   href=3D"mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; =
> title=3Drealtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>List</A>=20
>   </DIV>
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 06, =
> 1999 10:27=20
>   AM</DIV>
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: In lieu of =
> crash(trash)=20
>   talk</DIV>
>   <DIV><BR></DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I've been monitoring grains for a possible long =
> position.=20
>   I'm curious as to why you would want a weak close to trigger long in =
> wheat and=20
>   corn? Corn appears to have completed a possible 5th wave decline with =
> two=20
>   closes under the 78% retracement which isn't terribly bullish. Of =
> particular=20
>   note in corn is&nbsp;what (so far anyway) is a very tight double =
> inside day=20
>   setup. Beans have a clearer wave structure however the 5th wave =
> appears to be=20
>   incomplete. Meal is interesting looking. Can't make up my mind about=20
>   wheat.</FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Earl</FONT></DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <BLOCKQUOTE=20
>   style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
>     <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
>     <DIV=20
>     style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
>     <A href=3D"mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; =
> title=3Dkernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve=20
>     Karnish</A> </DIV>
>     <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
>     href=3D"mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx"=20
>     title=3Drealtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>List</A> ; <A=20
>     href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"=20
>     title=3Dmetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
>     <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 06, =
> 1999 10:22=20
>     AM</DIV>
>     <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> In lieu of =
> crash(trash)=20
>     talk</DIV>
>     <DIV><BR></DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>List,</FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From time to time, traders actually =
> discuss=20
>     "real" trades on this forum (the current sugar debate).&nbsp; This =
> is a=20
>     really great "idea" that should be explored on a daily basis.&nbsp; =
> Think of=20
>     it:&nbsp; a place where "realtraders" can exchange "real =
> trading"&nbsp;=20
>     ideas.&nbsp; It's a concept that could catch on.</FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For those who monitor real trades =
> in the grain=20
>     market:</FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>9/29:&nbsp; Went short: corn =
> (214.75), oats=20
>     (116.00), &amp; wheat (286.50); (December contracts)</FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>10/6:&nbsp; Covered and went long =
> oats=20
>     (110.50)</FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>10/7:&nbsp; A close below 203 in =
> Dec. corn and=20
>     262.25 in Dec. wheat triggers long positions tomorrow.</FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This has little to do with the =
> crash of '29,=20
>     Alan Green"spun", or all those "politicos" conspiring to make my =
> life=20
>     miserable in the gold market.&nbsp; But, guess what?&nbsp; Real =
> people are=20
>     in these real trades, making real money, not letting the "news" =
> influence=20
>     their approach, and they are certainly not sitting around theorizing =
> about=20
>     the rise and fall of US economy.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek =
> Trading<BR><A=20
>     =
> href=3D"http://www.stny.rr.com/abbracadabra/cybercast/";>http://www.stny.r=
> r.com/abbracadabra/cybercast/</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><=
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:47:38 -0500
> From: "Bill N." <frt1000@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Excel question.  Help for the simple minded.
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
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>
> List,
>
> Could anyone with expertise in Excel give me advice?
>
> What formula would I use in the case below?  What I want the cells in =
> Col B below to do is to take the value of Col A. and Copy it to B only =
> if it is a positive number.  Just as in the example.  In col A. row 1 =
> the value is "2".  Col. B would show "2".  But in row 2 col A the value =
> is a negative number "-1.3".  So I would want row 2 Col B to remain =
> blank.
>
> Also is there any formula that in the end would count the number of =
> entries in Col B?  I'm not sure right now if I'm going to need to know =
> this but it might be helpful.  Some of these columns are going to be =
> close to 2000 rows long.  (Other than sorting the speadsheet by col B =
> and counting it myself) =20
>
> Since I'm at this I might as well go for broke.  If the above is =
> possible,  would there then be a way to tally column B by number?  An =
> example would be: there are [x] number of rows greater than2 but less =
> than 3, and [y] number of rows greater than 3 but less than 4 etc.  I =
> don't really expect the values to be more than 10.
>
> Thanks for any help.  I'm hoping this project might earn me a buck or =
> two in the markets when I get it done.  What I'm doing is importing =
> continuous data from MetaStock into Excel for this.
>
> Bill N.
> Milwaukee, WI  USA
>
> THE EXAMPLE:
>
>               Col A   Col B
> 1            2                2
> 2            -1.3
> 3            0.4             0.4               =20
> 4            5.2             5.2
> 5            -6.1
> 6            2                 2
> 7            -1.6
> 8            5                 5
> 9            3                 3
>
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> <DIV>List,</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Could anyone with expertise in Excel give me advice?</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>What formula would I use in the case below?&nbsp; What I want the =
> cells in=20
> Col B below to do is to take the value of Col A. and Copy it to B only =
> if it is=20
> a positive number.&nbsp; Just as in the example.&nbsp; In col A. row 1 =
> the value=20
> is &quot;2&quot;.&nbsp; Col. B would show &quot;2&quot;.&nbsp; But in =
> row 2 col=20
> A the value is a negative number &quot;-1.3&quot;.&nbsp; So I would want =
> row 2=20
> Col B to remain blank.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Also is there any formula that in the end would count the number of =
> entries=20
> in Col B?&nbsp; I'm not sure right now if I'm going to need to know this =
> but it=20
> might be helpful.&nbsp; Some of these columns are going to be close to =
> 2000 rows=20
> long.&nbsp; (Other than sorting the speadsheet by col B and counting it=20
> myself)&nbsp; </DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Since I'm at this I might as well go for broke.&nbsp; If the above =
> is=20
> possible,&nbsp; would there then be a way to tally column B by =
> number?&nbsp; An=20
> example would be: there are [x] number of rows greater than2 but less =
> than 3,=20
> and [y] number of rows greater than 3 but less than 4 etc.&nbsp; I don't =
> really=20
> expect the values to be more than 10.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Thanks for any help.&nbsp; I'm hoping this project might earn me a =
> buck or=20
> two in the markets when I get it done.&nbsp; What I'm doing is importing =
>
> continuous data from MetaStock into Excel for this.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Bill N.</DIV>
> <DIV>Milwaukee, WI&nbsp; USA</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000>THE EXAMPLE:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT=20
> color=3D#000000>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
> sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
> Col A&nbsp;&nbsp; Col B</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
>
> 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
> 2</DIV>
> <DIV>2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
>
> - -1.3</DIV>
> <DIV>3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
>
> 0.4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
> p;=20
> 0.4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
> p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
> </DIV>
> <DIV>4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
>
> 5.2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
> p;=20
> 5.2</DIV>
> <DIV>5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
>
> - -6.1</DIV>
> <DIV>6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
>
> 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
> 2</DIV>
> <DIV>7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
>
> - -1.6</DIV>
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> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 19:36:28 -0400
> From: "Gitanshu Buch" <OnWingsOfEagles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Excel question.  Help for the simple minded.
>
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> =3Dif(A2>0,a2," ") for the copy of col a with positive value and space =
> blank if 0 or negative value.
>   Also is there any formula that in the end would count the number of =
> entries in Col B? =20
>
>
>   =3Dcount(b2:b200) should be placed in the cell where you want the =
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> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>=3Dif(A2&gt;0,a2," ") for the copy of col a with =
> positive value=20
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> style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
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>   <DIV>Also is there any formula that in the end would count the number =
> of=20
>   entries in Col B?&nbsp; </DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>   <DIV><FONT size=3D2>=3Dcount(b2:b200) should be placed in the cell =
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:03:32 -0700
> From: "Jim Greening" <JimGinVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Mid Week Pick
>
> All,
>      This is the kind of market I've been waiting for!  It's hard to
> complain when all your stocks are rising <G>.  Actually, looking at my
> indicators, today's action didn't really change anything, but the NASD and
> NDX are close to all time highs and the DJI is right at the top of its
Short
> Term Down Trend Channel (STDTC).  If we can get some follow through we
will
> get all kinds of new bullish signals.
>      AOL has made a good move and is nearing the resistance area of the
top
> of the Intermediate Term Down Trend Channel (ITDTC).  I think it has built
> up enough steam to blow right on through, but the next few days will tell
> for sure.
>      The Internet Group has shown excellent strength the last few days and
I
> think it will continue.  One I've been watching for a good entry point is
> CMGI Inc (CMGI).  It may not be a household name, but CMGI is one of the
> chief architects of the Internet.  What began as a direct marketing firm
has
> become a prolific investor in the future of the Internet.  It's venture
> capital arm, @Ventures, is a savvy trend-spotter boasting a portfolio with
> stakes in more than 40 Internet companies (Lycos, Raging Bull).  It also
> owns 83% of search engine AltaVista, which it plans to grow into its
> centerpiece Web property. CMGI's Internet Group includes a string of
> majority-owned companies (Engage Technologies, Planet Direct) offering
> services such as Web hosting. About 80% of CMGI's revenue comes from
> fulfillment and mailing list services.
>      CMGI at 105 3/4 broke out of its ITDTC today.  It hit an all time
high
> of 165 on 4/13/99 then fell to a low of 66 ¼ on 8/5/99.  Since then it has
> formed a Short Term Up Trend Channel (STUTC) and is now at the top of that
> channel.  The Tema binary is positive and rising.  The Tema Qstick is
still
> negative but rising fast.  That usually means we are close to a good entry
> point.  The conservative approach would be to wait until CMGI falls back
> towards the bottom of the STUTC before entering, but that risks not
catching
> it if it takes off.  Since I believe it may well take off, I'm going to
> enter here.  I'll open a position tomorrow with a target at the all time
> high of 165 and a stop just under the STUTC at 85 ¾.
>      See chart at http://www.geocities.com/jimginva/
>
> JimG
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 05:52:58 -0500
> From: "Bill N." <frt1000@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Excel question.  Help for the simple minded.
>
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> Thanks,
>
> Sometimes some of this stuff is so simple I overlook the obvious.
>
> But what has me stumped now is how to count the occurrences of a certain =
> value in a column of figures.  Say col. B contained the following =
> values: 3.7, 9.1, 4.8, 3.2, 0.6, 7.0, 2.1.  Now I would like to be able =
> to count the number of rows that have values greater than 3 but less =
> than 4.  Obviously the correct answer to the above would be "2" as we =
> have 3.7 and 3.2 as values.
>
> I've tried using the "count", "countif", and even "dcount" functions but =
> keep getting errors.  And if I don't get an error the formula generates =
> a "true" or "false" statement.
>
> If this could be done it would really cap off my study.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Bill N.
> Milwaukee, WI USA
> - -----Original Message-----
>     From: Gitanshu Buch <OnWingsOfEagles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     Date: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 07:45 PM
>     Subject: Re: Excel question. Help for the simple minded.
>    =20
>    =20
>     =3Dif(A2>0,a2," ") for the copy of col a with positive value and =
> space blank if 0 or negative value.
>     Also is there any formula that in the end would count the number of =
> entries in Col B? =20
>        =20
>        =20
>         =3Dcount(b2:b200) should be placed in the cell where you want =
> the result.
>
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> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Sometimes some of this stuff is so simple I overlook the =
> obvious.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>But what has me stumped now is how to count the <FONT=20
> color=3D#000000>occurrences </FONT>of a certain value in a column of=20
> figures.&nbsp; Say col. B contained the following values: 3.7, 9.1, 4.8, =
> 3.2,=20
> 0.6, 7.0, 2.1.&nbsp; Now I would like to be able to count the number of =
> rows=20
> that have values greater than 3 but less than 4.&nbsp; Obviously the =
> correct=20
> answer to the above would be &quot;2&quot; as we have 3.7 and 3.2 as=20
> values.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>I've tried using the &quot;count&quot;, &quot;countif&quot;, and =
> even=20
> &quot;dcount&quot; functions but keep getting errors.&nbsp; And if I =
> don't get=20
> an error the formula generates a &quot;true&quot; or &quot;false&quot;=20
> statement.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>If this could be done it would really cap off my study.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Thanks again,</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Bill N.</DIV>
> <DIV>Milwaukee, WI USA</DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: =
> 5px">
>     <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
> Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
>     </B>Gitanshu Buch &lt;<A=20
>     =
> href=3D"mailto:OnWingsOfEagles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>OnWingsOfEagles@xxxxxxxxxxx=
> om</A>&gt;<BR><B>To:=20
>     </B><A =
> href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>=20
>     &lt;<A=20
>     =
> href=3D"mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<B=
> R><B>Date:=20
>     </B>Wednesday, October 06, 1999 07:45 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: =
> Excel=20
>     question. Help for the simple minded.<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
>     <DIV><FONT size=3D2>=3Dif(A2&gt;0,a2,&quot; &quot;) for the copy of =
> col a with=20
>     positive value and space blank if 0 or negative value.</FONT></DIV>
>     <BLOCKQUOTE=20
>     style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
>         <DIV>Also is there any formula that in the end would count the =
> number of=20
>         entries in Col B?&nbsp; </DIV>
>         <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>         <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>         <DIV><FONT size=3D2>=3Dcount(b2:b200) should be placed in the =
> cell where you=20
>         want the =
> result.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 06:39:40 -0700
> From: "Steve Karnish" <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: In lieu of crash(trash) talk
>
> "But I don't tell the others to stop talking about sugar. On the contrary,
> if you want to share your knowledge about
> what makes this market tick I am all ears... Maybe I can learn something
> there."
>
> Gwen,
>
> Maybe you should learn to read.  I'm anything but "angry" and if you read
> "carefully" below you will (maybe not) see that I encourage people to talk
> about sugar and then make specific recommendations about the grains.
Since
> you admit that:
> "really I have no clues about it", I think your choice to "stay quiet on
> this" is an excellent one.
>
> Steve Karnish
> CCT
> http://www.stny.rr.com/abbracadabra/cybercast/
>
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gwenael Gautier <ggautier@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: 'Steve Karnish' <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; List
<realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 1:37 AM
> Subject: AW: In lieu of crash(trash) talk
>
>
> > Hi Steve, why such anger? Different people different interests! In
> addition
> > what you do displaying your sugar trades is no different from debating
> about
> > the direction of rates, currencies, and asset valuations or is it?
> >
> > I have traded sugar myself and even made money in it, but really I have
no
> > clues about it, why it should do this or that, I just looked at patterns
I
> used
> > in stocks and hence stay quiet on this. But I don't tell the others to
> stop
> > talking about sugar. On the contrary, if you want to share your
knowledge
> about
> > what makes this market tick I am all ears... Maybe I can learn something
> there.
> >
> > Gwenn
> >
> >
> > | -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > | Von: Steve Karnish [SMTP:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > | Gesendet am: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 5:23 PM
> > | An: List; metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > | Betreff: In lieu of crash(trash) talk
> > |
> > | List,
> > |
> > | From time to time, traders actually discuss "real" trades on this
forum
> (the
> > | current sugar debate).  This is a really great "idea" that should be
> explored
> > | on a daily basis.  Think of it:  a place where "realtraders" can
> exchange
> > | "real trading"  ideas.  It's a concept that could catch on.
> > |
> > | For those who monitor real trades in the grain market:
> > |
> > | 9/29:  Went short: corn (214.75), oats (116.00), & wheat (286.50);
> (December
> > | contracts)
> > |
> > | 10/6:  Covered and went long oats (110.50)
> > |
> > | 10/7:  A close below 203 in Dec. corn and 262.25 in Dec. wheat
triggers
> long
> > | positions tomorrow.
> > |
> > | This has little to do with the crash of '29, Alan Green"spun", or all
> those
> > | "politicos" conspiring to make my life miserable in the gold market.
> But,
> > | guess what?  Real people are in these real trades, making real money,
> not
> > | letting the "news" influence their approach, and they are certainly
not
> > | sitting around theorizing about the rise and fall of US economy.
> > |
> > | Steve Karnish
> > | Cedar Creek Trading
> > | http://www.stny.rr.com/abbracadabra/cybercast/
> > |  << Datei: ATT00007.html >>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:55:21 -0400
> From: dllabarre@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Excel question. Help for the simple minded.
>
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>
> Bill,
>
> The way I've done this is to set up a query on a new sheet.  The query has
> parameters that allows you to include cells from the previos sheet for a
> specific range (between 3 and 4).  Then you just apply the counter to this
> column of data.
>
> Don L.
> WebMaster/Software developer
> http://www.stny.rr.com/abbracadabra/Cybercast
>
>
>
>
>
> "Bill N." <frt1000@xxxxxxxxxx> on 10/07/99 06:52:58 AM
>
> Please respond to metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> To:   metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> cc:    (bcc: Donald L. LaBarre)
> Subject:  Re: Excel question.  Help for the simple minded.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sometimes some of this stuff is so simple I overlook the obvious.
>
> But what has me stumped now is how to count the occurrences of a certain
value
> in a column of figures.  Say col. B contained the following values: 3.7,
9.1,
> 4.8, 3.2, 0.6, 7.0, 2.1.  Now I would like to be able to count the number
of
> rows that have values greater than 3 but less than 4.  Obviously the
correct
> answer to the above would be "2" as we have 3.7 and 3.2 as values.
>
> I've tried using the "count", "countif", and even "dcount" functions but
keep
> getting errors.  And if I don't get an error the formula generates a
"true" or
> "false" statement.
>
> If this could be done it would really cap off my study.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Bill N.
> Milwaukee, WI USA
> - -----Original Message-----
>     From: Gitanshu Buch <OnWingsOfEagles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     Date: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 07:45 PM
>     Subject: Re: Excel question. Help for the simple minded.
>
>
>     =if(A2>0,a2," ") for the copy of col a with positive value and space
blank
> if 0 or negative value.
>     Also is there any formula that in the end would count the number of
entries
> in Col B?
>
>
>         =count(b2:b200) should be placed in the cell where you want the
result.
>
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