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Re: Can I keep my 'ems'??


  • To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: Can I keep my 'ems'??
  • From: "A.J. Maas" <anthmaas@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:17:50 -0700
  • In-reply-to: <LMBBKJCLKIJIBBJLAEIJGEJGCHAA.nkormanik@xxxxxxxxxx>

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Nicholas,

>Don't you just hate when they do that!!!  Nasty little critters adding lines
>and not telling me about it!

Some will "tell" you about it, in a hypothatic way, by automaticaly creating
back-up files ("Config.001" or "Config.bak" or "Config.program extension"
etc. etc............... ). Furthermore for my own records here, do I rely heavaly on
2 programs to monitor any changes made to disk/system/files/registry, eg
when any program gets installed (eg that run a setup-type for exe).

The 2 monitor-programs are:
-Remove-It
-CleanSweep

One cannot do without the other, eg these 2 programs are complimentary to
one another, for neither one can do a 100% trustworthy monitoring/reporting
of an (complete) installation by itselve, tho combined, both these programs
will get you well on the way for recording any changes made by self-installing
programs.

However, installing some DOS-programs (and especially when in DOS-Mode,
thus not from a Windows DOS-box), these then will be omitted by the above
two (Windows-Comp.) programs.
(Then again, nowadays, who does still work with "DOS-only" programs.........).

Also, some Windows Compatible Programs can still, internaly, rely on ancient
from the DOS-era stemming (system) settings.

Therefore, Microsoft developed a Windows 9.x own version of the EMM386.EXE file,
which file can be recoqnised by its build date and by its location, eg it is installed
(by Win-Setup) to the C:\Windows-folder instead of the older build dates that got/
were usualy installed to the C:\Windows\Command-folder(Win3.11) or the
C:\DOS-folder (DOS6.x).

>I had no idea I could just go ahead and delete those lines (keeping a backup,
>of course) in Win 98.

This was already so in Win95 and/but be also warned that not all lines are/will be
placed there without due couse, eg be carefull not to delete lines holding
information required by some Windows Compatible Programs.
Also, remember that your Cd-Rom drive/Sound Card might not function anymore,
if/when you want to boot from the DOS-Mode. For this creating a seperate
"Config.dos"-file will be sufficiant (in combination with a seperate Autoexec.dos),
and both to be placed in the root C: -folder.

>Do you think that having these lines in there all this time has been in any way
>degrading system performance?

>From here this is hard to tell, but I do not think so. The mem-page assignment
doesn't look as though it "was in the way" of anything and not using the EMS
only means just that, eg if it was called upon than the EXS's Extended Mem
Manager (the HIMEM.SYS) would have taken care of it (with your PC only loosing
a few kB's for Mem).

Any line placed in the Config.sys or Autoexec.bat can consume up (base) memory.
Even the Rem-ed out lines.
Any device loaded can consume even more memory. The LH and DeviceHigh
functions used per older DOS-versions and later in the Win3.11 OS did help (a bit)
eg for not running out of memory-problems, but that is also been the reason why
Microsoft made Windows 9.x to start  -standard-  with blanc files, only later to
occasionaly be (perhaps) filled by users' own preferences (and items).

Regards,
Ton Maas
ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Nicholas Kormanik <nkormanik@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: dinsdag 3 augustus 1999 0:21
Subject: RE: Can I keep my 'ems'??


> 
> Ton Maas,
> 
> "One can tell that your Config.sys line originates from a program (source)
> other than that of your OS, eg Windows 98...."
> 
> Don't you just hate when they do that!!!  Nasty little critters adding lines
> and not telling me about it!  I had no idea I could just go ahead and delete
> those lines (keeping a backup, of course) in Win 98.  Do you think that
> having these lines in there all this time has been in any way degrading
> system performance?  (Though I'll probably be able to see for myself once
> they are out.)
> 
> Thanks again for your help, and sorry to have been so off-topic.
> 
> Nicholas
> 
> 
>