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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
href="mailto:jeyassoc@xxxxxxxxxxx"; title=jeyassoc@xxxxxxxxxxx>James E. Young</A> 
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:ensign@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
title=ensign@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Howard Arrington</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A href="mailto:EnsignList@xxxxxxxxxxx"; 
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 17, 1998 7:19 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: HEA: Pivot Point clarification</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>EnsignList - <A 
href="http://www.ensignsoftware.com";>http://www.ensignsoftware.com</A> Howard 
and Earl <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thank you both for the explanation of the 
difference. <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; regards <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; James Young 
<P>Howard Arrington wrote: 
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">&nbsp;EnsignList - <A 
  href="http://www.ensignsoftware.com";>http://www.ensignsoftware.com</A><FONT 
  color=#000000><FONT size=-1>Hi James,</FONT></FONT> <FONT size=-1>The support 
  and resistance levels that the floor trades use are already built into Ensign 
  Windows as a draw tool.&nbsp; It is found on the Draw Tools panel, and 
  involves marking three points in its construction.&nbsp; As you point out, the 
  three primary points to mark would be yesterday's high, low and 
  close.&nbsp;&nbsp; From those values, the three support price levels and the 
  three resistance price levels are plotted on the chart as colored horizontal 
  lines.</FONT> <FONT color=#000000><FONT size=-1>The Pivot Point procedure that 
  Earl posted is totally different.&nbsp; His routine is marking the tops and 
  bottoms of swings, where each turning point is called a pivot point.&nbsp; 
  Part of the criteria for deciding if a bar is a high or low pivot is to 
  examine the neighboring bars on both the left and right sides.&nbsp; The 
  number of adjacent bars on each side to examine is referred to as the 
  Strength.&nbsp; In simple terms, for a bar to be a high pivot it must be 
  higher than its neighbors on the left, the bars to the right cannot be higher, 
  and the right most neighbor must be lower.&nbsp; For a strength of 2, two bars 
  on the left are tested, and two or more bars on the right are 
  tested.</FONT></FONT> <FONT size=-1>I described this in simple terms because 
  there are additional rules that tell what to do if several bars in a row all 
  have the same value.&nbsp; This condition is called a Flat, and the rules get 
  too complicated to describe here.</FONT> <FONT color=#000000><FONT size=-1>If 
  you would like to see Pivot Point in action, click on the Color Bar drop 
  down.&nbsp; Small Trend is a Pivot Point of strength 1. Minor Trend is a Pivot 
  Point of strength of 2, and Major Trend has a strength of 4.&nbsp; As color 
  bar study, the bars from a low swing point to a high swing point are colored 
  as an up trend, and the opposite as a down trend.&nbsp; These trends go from 
  one pivot point to the next pivot point.&nbsp; You can use these Color Bar 
  studies without having to write any ESPL code.</FONT></FONT> <FONT 
  color=#000000><FONT size=-1>Sincerely,</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT 
  color=#000000><FONT size=-1>Howard Arrington</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT 
  color=#000000><FONT size=-1><A 
  href="http://www.ensignsoftware.com/";>http://www.ensignsoftware.com/</A></FONT></FONT> 

  <BLOCKQUOTE 
  style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    I have been following your discussions about the the PP procedure <BR>that 
    was initially in TradeStation. This function/indicator seems to a <BR>bit 
    different from an Indicator that was presented by Joe Duffy this <BR>fall at 
    the annual seminar of the Canadian Society of Technical Analysts <BR>(CSTA). 
    The differences of the two and their objectives, in my mind <BR>needs some 
    clarification. <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Could someone please provide a 
    reference source that would explain <BR>the concept and objectives of the PP 
    procedure that Earl was so kind to <BR>post to the DG. 
    <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The other piviot Point functioin that Joe presented is 
    listed below <BR>completed with a diagram. Joe had explained that this 
    concept was used <BR>by floor traders to identify the potential support and 
    resistance. Since <BR>they use them in futures trading it imparative that we 
    know about them <BR>as well.. 
    <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    R3------- 
    <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    R2------ 
    <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    R1------ 
    <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; x&nbsp; &lt;--- High 
    <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; x 
    <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; x&nbsp; &lt;-- 
    Close&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; O = pp 
    <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; x 
    <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; x 
    <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; x 
    <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; x&nbsp; &lt;--Low 
    <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    S1----- 
    <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    S2----- 
    <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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Nick,
Dahl Trend:= Mov(C,50,S) - Ref(Mov(C,50,S),-15)
I wonder if Richard still reads this list?  He'd be howlin'.

Like the name says, it's a trend finder, a qualifier.
Moving up from below 0 (sometimes), 
Crossing above 0 (a little better), 
Pivots from above 0 (a little less so).

Test it out with your other stuff and see what's what.
CP


Nicholas Kormanik wrote:
> 
> On the Silicon Investor MetaStock thread some people have spoken well of
> Dahl's Primary Trend indicator.  I believe the following is the formulation:
> 
> Mov(c,13,S) - Ref(Mov(c,34,S),-89)
> 
> Questions:  Have you folks found this particular indicator to be of value?
> What other parameters in the formula would you recommend?  What indicator
> value is the buy signal?
> 
> Thanks,
> Nicholas