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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Ton, I don't have that message and I even don't
have that file.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Mvg Jan</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Oorspronkelijk
bericht-----</B><BR><B>Van: </B>A.J. Maas <<A
href="mailto:anthmaas@xxxxxx";>anthmaas@xxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Aan: </B><A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> <<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Datum:
</B>woensdag 10 februari 1999 1:34<BR><B>Onderwerp: </B>Re: Error message
using the Downloader<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Do you have a file by the name "Conrept.dta"
stored in your C:\Equis\Dlwin folder? <FONT size=2>(see
att.)</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT size=2>It summarises the latest conversion report
(partly printed below). </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Gr./Reg.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Ton Maas</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><A
href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxx";>ms-irb@xxxxxx</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>
<P align=left>Data Converted And StoredD:\MS\AexOptie\U</P>
<P align=left>BDDGR10YLDD:\MIJN
DOCUMENTEN\D:\MS\AexOptie\MS990208.TXT 10yr/yield Dutch Guilder
RateD</P>
<P align=left>BDYEN10YLDD:\MIJN
DOCUMENTEN\D:\MS\AexOptie\MS990208.TXT10yr/yield Japan Yen RateD</P>
<P align=left>BDUS$10YLDD:\MIJN
DOCUMENTEN\D:\MS\AexOptie\MS990208.TXT10yr/yield US $ RateD</P>
<P align=left>A$INDU-AVED:\MIJN DOCUMENTEN\D:\MS\AexOptie\MS990208.TXT(Dow
Jones Industrial Average (Vol x .100D</P>
<P align=left>A$TRAN-AVED:\MIJN DOCUMENTEN\D:\MS\AexOptie\MS990208.TXT*Dow
Jones Transportation Average (Vol x .1D</P>
<P align=left>A$UTIL-AVED:\MIJN DOCUMENTEN\D:\MS\AexOptie\MS990208.TXT(Dow
Jones Utilities Average (Vol x .100)D</P>
<P align=left>ESXEZUEW50D:\MIJN DOCUMENTEN\D:\MS\AexOptie\MS990208.TXT</P>
<P align=left>EURO STOXX 50D</P>
<P align=left>EGERFRADAXD:\MIJN DOCUMENTEN\D:\MS\AexOptie\MS990208.TXTGer
Frankfurt DAXD</P>
<P>PHKHANGSEND:\MIJN DOCUMENTEN\D:\MS\AexOptie\</P></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>----------cut</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>*******"REPORT GOES ON AND ON TILL IT REACHES THIS
LAST BIT BELOW"********</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>
<P align=left>MS990208.TXTzUS $ / Poland SLOTYD</P>
<P align=left>VUS$/RURUBD:\MIJN DOCUMENTEN\</P>
<P align=left>D:\MS\zIndex\MS990208.TXTzUS $ / Russia Ruble RURD</P>
<P align=left>VUS$/SAURLD:\MIJN DOCUMENTEN\</P>
<P align=left>D:\MS\zIndex\MS990208.TXTzUS $ / Saudi Arabia RIYALD</P>
<P align=left>VUS$/SARNDD:\MIJN DOCUMENTEN\</P>
<P align=left>D:\MS\zIndex\MS990208.TXTzUS $ / Sth Africa RANDD</P>
<P align=left>VUS$/KOWOND:\MIJN DOCUMENTEN\</P>
<P align=left>D:\MS\zIndex\MS990208.TXTzUS $ / Sth Korea WOND</P>
<P align=left>VUS$/SWKROD:\MIJN DOCUMENTEN\</P>
<P align=left>D:\MS\zIndex\MS990208.TXTzUS $ / Sweden KRONAD</P>
<P align=left>VUS$/SWFRAD:\MIJN DOCUMENTEN\</P>
<P align=left>D:\MS\zIndex\MS990208.TXTzUS $ / Switzerland FRANCD</P>
<P align=left>VUS$/TAIW$D:\MIJN DOCUMENTEN\</P>
<P align=left>D:\MS\zIndex\MS990208.TXTzUS $ / Taiwan $D</P>
<P align=left>VUS$/TBAHTD:\MIJN DOCUMENTEN\</P>
<P>D:\MS\zIndex\MS990208.TXTzUS $ / Thailand BAHTDU</P></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>*********THE ABOVE THEN IS THE LAST LINE IN THE
REPORT*************</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>--------------------------/////////////////////////-----------------------</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:klpdmozo@xxxxxx"; title=klpdmozo@xxxxxx>klpdmozo</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Metastock list</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> dinsdag 9 februari 1999 20:13</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Error message using the Downloader</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>When I have finished converting data
from ASCII to Metastock and I want to exit the Downloader I get the
message "Unable to open output file to save status
report".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Converting data is no problem. In the help file I
can't find the message. I work with DL 6.52. Who knows what the problem
is ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Greetings,
Jan</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: "Lionel and Gail Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: Bill Williams' Profitunity Indicators
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:06:18 -0600
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Ron:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks for your thoughtfull posting.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>There are other vendors of books and systems that also need to
be studied very carefully before we can have confidence in them. If you
can verify that Williams is either a charlatan or a genius, or even a bit of
both, you will have done us all a favor.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Occasionaly I have looked at published systems,
too many of them are nowhere near as good as those developed by members of
this and the FastTrack listservers. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I looked at Bill Williams first book. I was a bit turned
off by his misuse of the chaos terminology, as this sort of thing sometimes
indicates that the person does not know what he is talking about or he is being
patronizing. If Williams' system is any good, he doesn't have to make unprovable
or incorrect claims.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks again for sharing your research with us.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Lionel Issen</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>Rod Daniels <<A
href="mailto:rodney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>rodney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Tuesday, February 09, 1999 10:02 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Bill
Williams' Profitunity Indicators<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>When Mark Brown speaks, I will listen. His
knowledge and authority are unquestionable. He scares me. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>However, I too have been intrigued with the
Profitunity approach for quite some time. It is simplistic and compelling.
Both Bill Williams books I thought were a good read and I have been trying
to figure out for some time now if the approach will work for me. My
backtesting of the software "Investors Dream" is showing mixed
results: taking the pyramiding signals in the false breakouts is seeming to
be a problem that I haven't been able to overcome yet. These losses are what
is keeping my testing from being profitable. These are not to be confused
with the "low rent district" losses. According to the book, the
answer lies somewhere in developing an "educated
intuition".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>This is either the greatest trading approach ever, or Mr.
Williams is a more prolific liar than the antichrist. I VOW TO GET TO THE
BOTTOM OF THIS IF I HAVE TO TEST THIS SOFTWARE AND EDUCATE MY INTUITION
UNTIL I AM DEAD !!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>If this system is a farce, then the world is truly full of
unscrupulous and evil system vendors. Those two books are among the most
enjoyable and lucid books I have ever read in my life. Every and all the
right buttons are pushed in the traders psyche. Of course, this guy is a PhD
in psychology as is his wife. Who knows how to push buttons better than a
psychotherapist right?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>And....John Hill of Futures Truth on the books' backcover
quotes: "The principles are sound as we have tested them with our
software." But when I send an inquiry to Futures Truth asking for test
results, they say they don't have any. WTF?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>From my internet inquiries, I've received no positive
confirmation about this system vendor, only confirmation that this Bill
Williams guy is to be watched. That that is the result of disgruntled
persons who refused to make the psychological adjustments to make the system
work is possible. But logically one has to assume that at least one person
might have come forward PUBLICLY to confirm that Mr. Williams is a genius or
at least a stand-up guy. UNLESS: the approach is such a breakthrough idea
that the Profitunity players making a bundle are keeping it quiet and to
themselves.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Now, Mr. Williams claims in his book that he was offered
seven figures to not reveal this approach to other traders (page 5) by a guy
of George Soros calibre. How can a person make these claims if they are not
true and look in the mirror at himself? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I don't know how yet, but I'm gonna figure out a way to
get to the bottom of this.There has to be a way to verify statistically the
viability of this simple system and I will find it. The educated intuition
part must be quantifiable to some extent as well. Since I just retired from
the submarine service (where BS wasn't tolerated), I feel this new mission
is worthwhile. These books could be the highest and most insidious form of
SPAM known to mankind. Or, they may hold the key to the Holy Grail and Mr.
Williams gets a noble prize.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Good Trading All</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Rod </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>9 Feb 1999 13:56:35 -0800<BR>From: "Glen Wallace" <<A
href="mailto:gcwallace@xxxxxxxx";>gcwallace@xxxxxxxx</A>><BR>Subject: Re:
Bill Williams' Profitunity indicators<BR><BR>I read that article, too.
Unfortunately I didn't keep it and now I can't<BR>find it at Futures
Magazine's website, so if anyone else has it, please post<BR>it.<BR><BR>The
criticisms were valid. I recall one was that Bill Williams blasted
the<BR>$3,000 trading system and black-box vendors, and then made sure to
mention<BR>his Investor's Dream software. I think the other criticism
was an example<BR>of a 3-month Dell trade using his system that produced a
$35,000 profit.<BR>Williams did not mention that the capital required to
execute all the buy<BR>signals was $180,000. In fairness to Bill
Williams, this was just an<BR>illustration of how the trades are
executed. That kind of capital allocated<BR>to a single security is
not required to trade the system.<BR><BR>I would add a couple more
criticisms, myself. First, he repeatedly (and<BR>annoyingly)
refered to the formula for calculating a price midpoint as<BR>(H-L)/2 rather
than (H+L)/2. Second, some of his descriptions of his<BR>indicators
were less than precise and it took some work to accurately
define<BR>them. I must say, though, that his trading group in Texas
City, Texas were<BR>helpful in clarifying this for me.<BR><BR>To call Bill
Williams a scammer, however, I think is a bit
harsh.<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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I was also double-billed by Prophet and had to complain
to Visa to straighten it out, after giving Prophet 3 months to
straighten it out. I dumped them and went to
Quote Plus.
It's also virtually impossible to reach a live person
at Prophet- all voice mail and email.
---Mjack59@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> Mr Taglavore,
> I do not know about primate, But have had
experience with
> prophet, and it was all bad, thier accounting department really
sucks, so
> please be careful with your Credit/debit cards.... I Was billed
250.00 for one
> month of service plus each month i was billed twice then at last of
the month
> was credited for the mistake ,sounds like an interest scam. I never
was
> credited back the 250.00. twas last Nov.
> So if you do change providers pay by check...NOT
by AUTO
> deduct.
>
>
> Mjack59@xxxxxxx
>
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