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Hi Marvin,

".il" means Israel.

I live in a town on top of a mountain in Northern Israel, about 14 km 
from Lebanon. If you can trade from here, you can trade from almost 
anywhere.

I don't know Bridge trading, but I'll look at their web site now. It 
sounds like a 64K lease line will be a lot better than ordinary Internet 
access. 

Right now I'm trading over the internet temporarily. Another trader in 
the same room with me has been experimenting and when he finds a good 
solution, we'll all sign up. He has tried ISDN (not a big improvement, at 
least not in Israel), frame-relay, and now he has some kind of connection 
through S&P Israel's office which is leasing a 256k line to America. This 
last solution has been the best so far. I'll find out the details from 
him.

If he weren't in the same room, I would find it impossible to trade. 
Sometimes I get no data at all and when I'm in a trade, I would be in big 
trouble if I couldn't call out to him and get a picture of the market 
until my data feed returns. The plain vanilla internet is not really 
viable.

I'll let you now when I get more details.

Gila


>Hello Gila,
>
>Does ".il" mean Ireland?
>Your post is very imformative, especially for forigners to US.
>I trade spot forex and index futures, mostly daytrading, by the
>traditional phone-broker way. I'm looking for online FCM & equity
>broker to trade futures and stocks online. But the Internet stability
>is a serious concern, especially for foreigners to US.
>
>Do you have any knowledge of the Bridge Trading? I'm to lease
>BridgeStation which is delivered to my desktop via 64K lease line,
>allowing access to the Internet (not as Reuters 3000 which is confined to
>Reuters own network). So if I can place orders via Bridge's network,
>it will be the most reliable and efficient vehicle for e-trading US stocks.
>Besides, from Bridge's web I learned that Bridge Trading is capable 
>of trading European, Asia-Pacific Rim & Latam stocks, an edge to
>the other US-based online brokers.
>
>I live in Taipei, Taiwan. Not comfortable in spoken English and much
>limited to the e-trading world. You mentioned the frame-relay connection
>and non-US setup, I'm very curious about this, and appreciate with your
>share of information and experience.
>
>Marvin Lin
>marvlin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>Winthorpe,
>>
>>There are 3 daytrading software packages that I know of currently popular 
>>in the U.S. which do what you want. They are Real Tick III, Cybertrader, 
>>and Tradecast. Some have other names but are really private label 
>>versions of these three. 
>>
>>First you open an account with a daytrading firm that supports remote 
>>traders (this is not an "online brokerage" such as Etrade, Datek, etc.). 
>>Many have web pages, such as AB Watley, MB Trading, Investscape, Harbor 
>>Securities, Polar Trading, and many others. The firm you sign up with 
>>will give you their software. This software is directly linked to the 
>>order execution system with one keystroke. That is, you configure your 
>>keyboard such that one key means, e.g., "Buy 1000 shares at the market" 
>>Other keys might mean "Bid 1/16 higher than the inside bid for 1000 
>>shares." The stock is whatever you clicked on last. You don't need to 
>>enter an account number because that is in your setup. When you press the 
>>order entry key, you will see your order on the screen and then see the 
>>execution. It takes 1-2 seconds for a market order. Sometimes it seems 
>>instantaneous. 
>>
>>Your quote feed is part of this software package. These packages provide 
>>Level II quotes, intraday charts and historical charts all of which can 
>>be displayed at the same time. Each software package has its own 
>>"extras." The ticker you mentioned is also standard. I use Real Tick III 
>>and several basic indicators are available in it as well. You cannot 
>>input any custom formulas or indicators. All of this should be run from 
>>one computer, with 2 monitors. Windows 98 will give you this ability.
>>
>>The software and commission costs vary from brokerage to brokerage, but 
>>they are approximately $300 per month for the software plus exchange 
>>fees. Some firms will annul the software fees when you do a certain 
>>number of trades per month. You might want to bypass the internet 
>>altogether and get a frame-relay connection direct to the server. This is 
>>more reliable. You'll have to look into the costs for yourself. I'm not 
>>in the U.S., so my setup is different. Your brokerage firm should be able 
>>to advise you.
>>
>>I am also running Signal/Metastock on a separate computer. I am probably 
>>going to stop this. It adds significantly to the cost of trading. I am 
>>paying the cost of Signal, plus another open phone line. I also find the 
>>Metastock RT setup too awkward to work with in light of real daytrading. 
>>For example, in Metastock, you must create a security to collect data on 
>>that security. Then, the data starts only when you started. So if someone 
>>suggests you quickly take a look at XYZ, in Real Tick, I type in XYZ and 
>>get my 5-min chart setup the way I preconfigured it, going back 3 days, 
>>and a daily chart next to it, going back 200 days. In Metastock, I 
>>"create security," then open the chart, then the data starts collecting 
>>at that moment. I don't know what happened earlier in the day and the 
>>chart is totally out of context and meaningless.
>>
>>If you're serious about daytrading, I don't think Metastock RT or 
>>Tradestation is the way to go. Of course, other people might have had a 
>>different experience, and it would be interesting to hear from them.
>>
>>I hope I've answered your questions. Write again if you have more. 
>>
>>Gila
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