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MetaStock Users:
There is a problem I noticed today while using this ListServ I think you should be aware of. If you set
your Netscape, and probably IE, email client "not to download any message larger than" a certain size and
someone on the list sends a large chart, you will only receive a "preview" of that email. You will only
receive the full email, with the chart, after you specifically download that email. If you do not
download the full email with the chart, it will stay in your ISP's email server. This applies only to
regular ISP's and not online services such as AOL. How long that email stays in your server space is up
to your ISP. However, you should know most ISP's place a limit as to how much space you are allowed.
Some ISP's may not have any time limit as to how long an email stays in your server space. If you
continue to get large emails which you do not download, eventually your server space may fill up and you
will not receive any new email.
There are 2 ways to solve this problem. The first and easiest is to remove your email download limit.
The other is to get an email checker. There are several free ones at
http://on134th.com/freeware/Mail_Utilities.htm . SpamEater 2.20 is free. Cyber-Info E-Mail Notify costs
$20 (it is no longer free). Both allow you to preview and delete email directly in your ISP server space.
I have a limit of 4,000KB and had 72KB in one email which was over my download limit. The only way to
find out what's in your ISP email server space is to log-on to their email web site, which most of you
probably don't know how to use, or use one of the above programs.
Daniel Martinez
A.J. Maas wrote:
> All emails used, no matter what mailprogram you are using, can be stored to disk
> as ASCI TXT files, with the extension " .txt ".
> If you store as " .eml " or some other mail extension, then just rename that extension
> into " .txt ". Then open with Notepad(TXT 's default program).
> Now you can get rid of all the mails inner mumbo jumbo, like its header etc. or join with
> other mails into one big file.
> Then by using WinZip, you can compress store the asci file, and what was 300kB before
> gets then 90% compressed, reduced to 30kb into a zipfile. A zipfile you can treat as any other file.
> In such a zipfile, you can store more and more of the "same subjects" emails as txt and then
> also throw this zip(1.36Mb) on Floppy or ZipDisk.
> Charts too can be also compressed saved in zips, usualy at a lesser compression rate like
> 50-80 % and is without any loss of data. Provided you use good zip progams, of wich WinZip
> is the easiest and very fast in usage.
> You'ld be suprised how many zips will fit on a floppy, and how many big files will fit in a zip, and
> how many emails will fit in a big file or in a zip.
>
> I for one can't be bothered to go out on the net to check on someone else's charts. Have especialy
> joined the List as Metastock is a program about and on charts and how it factory produces these.
> If charts aren't possible on the List, making it pure an administrative List, why bother joining
> the List as there are plenty of administrative programs around with their own List or News groups.
> Joining the Digest, textmails only, will stop you from recieving any of the valueble charts, but then,
> do not start to wonder on how formulas or patterns etc. do look like, as physical FREE examples
> are not available.
>
> If I can get them home delivered, why bother going shopping. Thats modern email technology for
> you, and with the HTML mails it will even get 'worse' as you can send along 'moving animating
> charts', much like sending the playable gifs(as can be seen on the web and also a few times
> lately on the List). It is not that many charts are received as there are "empty" emails.
> Emails do take up 'x'kB in space too.
>
> The Great Picture tells it all. You should see them as receiving free instructive demo's.
> There can be as much learned from a chart as there can be from thousends of words.
> Don't drive people away from an very informative List, getting it automaticaly right delivered
> at your doostep as soon as you log on to send out your other mails and info.
> Who then needs the web?
>
> And why are you still using old hat Netscape? Internet Explorer these days is just as fast
> as Netscape, but in handling is a lot pleasurable, has made Win95 much more pleasurable, is
> implemented in Win98 and this is also very important, comes with very handy Outlook Express,
> in wich you can contain your own email-warehouse/library, compressed and all.
>
> Regards,
> Ton Maas
> Ms-IRB@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Daniel Martinez <DanM@xxxxxxxx>
> Aan: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Datum: zaterdag 17 oktober 1998 20:19
> Onderwerp: Re: MetaStock Update Requests
>
> >Richard:
> >because I have a scanner, I received free software which loads in and then
> >converts different formats. I think this method is better than screen capture.
> >This way, you won't get any extra objects in your chart which you don't want
> >such as your cursor, toolbars, menus, etc... Your PIC's will also come out
> >smaller. Because I have my own 5 MB's of personal web space, I can simply
> >upload charts to it and then provide a link in my email. The best FTP software
> >for uploading to your web space is FTP Explorer. http://www.tucows.com It's
> >free. If your ISP didn't provide any personal web space, and most give at least
> >2 MB's, you can get a free account at GeoCities or Tripod. You can even provide
> >commentary with your PIC. All you need is one of the 3 top wordprocessors.
> >Just write your commentary, embed your GIF, save in HTML format and upload.
> >
> >I think it would be more convenient if you used this method. Otherwise, you
> >will be sending copies of your chart to 500 people. I personally don't mind the
> >charts. However, because I now use Netscape v4.04, all charts and even
> >attached files are embedded in my email (Netscape uses MIME format). I can no
> >longer separate them. This means unless I completely delete the email, I'm
> >stuck with an extra 50K chart or other attached files. Some of these have been
> >up to 2 MB's in size. My Netscape folders have already exploded to 80 MB's and
> >I won't be surprised if they grow to 200 MB's.
> >
> >Daniel.
> >
> >
> >Richard Estes wrote:
> >
> >> I have capture software and post to other lists, it was a 43k chart, I use
> >> color and numerous lines. I can't see that being a problem. Not like the jpg
> >> charts formed in mswin that would run about +170k. Just trying to get Equis
> >> to tell me what rules are.
> >>
> >> Richard Estes
> >> ICQ#402160
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Steve Karnish <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 8:12 PM
> >> Subject: Re: MetaStock Update Requests
> >>
> >> >Richard,
> >> >The charts you see are usually gifs or jpegs reduced in size to under 20k.
> >> >Download a utility program like HyperSnap to "screen capture" your charts
> >> >and life will go easier for you.
> >> >http://www.hyperionics.com
> >> >
> >> >Steve Karnish
> >> >CCT
> >> >
> >> >----------
> >> >> From: Richard Estes <rtestes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Subject: Re: MetaStock Update Requests
> >> >> Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 2:53 PM
> >> >>
> >> >> I would like to know why I can't post charts to this list. Have you set a
> >> >> size limit? I tried fooling the program by embedded in html message,
> >> >still no-go 5 hours later. I see other charts here.
> >
> >
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