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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Ken,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Thanks for the feedback. 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed Middleton</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>Ken &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:divenfish@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>divenfish@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
    </B>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>October 18, 1998 4:43 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: MSPro 
    6.51<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>&nbsp; 
    <P>Ed Middleton wrote: 
    <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE>Ken, 
        <P>I am looking in to whether to upgrade to 6.51 and really appreciated 
        the <BR>information and experience that you supplied in your posting. 
        <P>Since you are using Signal (I assume by the price that it is Online 
        and not <BR>Stockedge) does it supply EOD data as well or are you 
        getting that from a <BR>separate supplier? <BR></P></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't know 
    what you get in the way of EOD data with Signal OnLine.&nbsp; You can get 
    some historical stock data, but I'm not sure what else.&nbsp; I never 
    checked into it because I'm more than happy with my current supplier. (At 
    least for commodities.) 
    <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE>&nbsp; <BR>How well does the Signal interface 
        with your broker work?&nbsp; What I am getting <BR>at is 2-fold.&nbsp; 
        One, the Signal software has a trade button that I assume <BR>lauches or 
        opens the window for your broker software.&nbsp; Which does it 
    do?</BLOCKQUOTE>Sure...make <U>me</U> be the guinea pig!&nbsp; You just had 
    to go and make me try something new.&nbsp; Ok... it launches your 
    browser.&nbsp; No, make that <I>my</I> browser.&nbsp; It takes you/me to the 
    DBC Trading Center, which seems to be simply a web page with about half a 
    dozen links to various brokerages.&nbsp; I don't see DATEK, but I'm sure 
    Signal would&nbsp; like to have their link.&nbsp; &lt;g&gt;&nbsp; I clicked 
    on Web Street Securities, and ended up at&nbsp; <A 
    href="http://www.webstreet.com/";>http://www.webstreet.com/</A>.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    Amazing.&nbsp; &lt;g&gt; 
    <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE>Second, does this interface with the broker work 
        smoothly and efficiently?</BLOCKQUOTE>If you use DATEK w/o problems now, 
    should be smooth sailing.&nbsp; I access my accounts both thru my browser 
    and thru broker supplied software. 
    <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE>Let me throw you my proposed set-up for your 
        comments: 
        <P>I would get EOD data from either Signal (if available) or my present 
        EOD <BR>data supplier.</P></BLOCKQUOTE>...with you so far... 
    <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE>I would use MS 6.51 for EOD expolorations and 
        system testing. <BR>I would get RT data from Signal and use MS 6.51 for 
        RT explorations and <BR>system testing. Can you do both EOD and RT 
        explorations at the same time?</BLOCKQUOTE>Hmmm.&nbsp; Interesting 
    thought.&nbsp; Don't see why not.&nbsp; You're determined to expand my mind, 
    aren't you?&nbsp; I feel it only fair to warn you that I am quite adept at 
    resisting.&nbsp; Before I try what you ask, let me say something before I 
    lose my train of thought. (Sadly, a frequent occurrence.)&nbsp; When you 
    install MSPro, you'll end up with two shortcuts on your desktop.&nbsp; 
    (Actually, you may need to put them there yourself.)&nbsp; One will say 
    Metastock Real Time.&nbsp; The other will say Metastock End Of Day.&nbsp; 
    The only time you will run MS RT is when you are connected to your real time 
    data provider.&nbsp; The markets don't need to be open necessarily, but RT 
    seems to need to be online and ready to pounce on that first tick, even if 
    it ain't coming.&nbsp; If you try to open it w/o being hooked up, it will 
    fight you tooth and nail. (Geez...I'm beginning to sound like my father..now 
    that's a scary thought!)&nbsp;&nbsp; But, and here's the good news,&nbsp; 
    Metastock End Of Day is identical in every way to RT.&nbsp; No difference. 
    (Other than that silly collecting of real time data thingy.)&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm 
    no techno whiz, but I'm guessing that when you open MSrt, the only 
    difference between it and MSeod is that it also launches the Equis File 
    Server, the Equis Data Server, and in this case, Signal's Data 
    Manager.&nbsp; So, it's one program with two separate icons.&nbsp; That's my 
    theory this evening, anyway.&nbsp; Tomorrow I may have a different 
    one.&nbsp; One of the icons simply is a shortcut to Metastock in it's 
    non-real time mode, and the other icon simply launches Metastock and several 
    other required programs for rt data collection.&nbsp; (Equis, you probably 
    should correct me about now.)&nbsp;&nbsp; You can access both your EOD 
    charts and your RT charts in the EOD mode.&nbsp; Generally, you will use EOD 
    to do all of your after market analysis, including system tests and 
    explorations.&nbsp; When you're collecting rt data, i.e., running MSrt, you 
    can access all of your rt charts and your EOD charts, and you can run 
    explorations and system tests, etc.&nbsp; I don't want to tempt fate, so all 
    I run is an Expert. 
    <P>Back to your question:&nbsp; Yes,&nbsp; you can do both EOD and RT 
    explorations at the same time.&nbsp; At least I just did it in the EOD mode. 
    
    <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE>I would use Datek On-line (good execution speed 
        and good commissions) for <BR>order execution.</BLOCKQUOTE>I agree with you 
    on both counts, but what's wrong with those people?&nbsp; Why don't they do 
    options??? 
    <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE>Do you see any problems with the following setup 
        from your experience? 
        <P>I think that this setup will give me the best overall return versus a 
        canned <BR>system such as Real Tick III.&nbsp; Given that the canned 
        systems have SOES <BR>execution of orders; I feel that the benefit of 
        SOES (ie reduced spread <BR>loss) does not overcome the additonal 
        commissions ($20-$30 versus $10) and <BR>software charges.&nbsp; The 
        canned systems also have no where near the complexity <BR>of MSPro 6.51 
        for tech. analysis.&nbsp; I hope this gives you a good <BR>understanding 
        of how I am thinking. 
        <P>Any comments from others would also be appreciated.</P></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm 
    not familiar with Real Tick III, and I lean mostly towards futures, not 
    stocks, so I can't be much help here. 
    <P>Regards, <BR>Ken <BR>&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp; </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML></x-html>From ???@??? Sun Oct 18 23:10:43 1998
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From: "Ed Hancock" <ehancock@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Thanks Ton, some excellent ideas here!
Regards,
Ed Hancock
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