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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>John,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You 
got it about right.&nbsp; The highest high value test is just a test to see if 
the short, intermediate, and long term highs and lows have occurred 
lately.&nbsp; If it did that means you have had higher highs and higher lows for 
each of the time frames.&nbsp; The LLV is just the mirror image and shows that 
the you have lower lows and lower highs for all the time frames if they meet 
that test.&nbsp; I started instinctively by giving the shorter term less weight, 
intermediate more, and longer most by using 1, 2, and 3 respectively.&nbsp; The 
test will get much more complicated then a simple zero cross over before I'm 
through, but the zero cross over test is good enough to test the sensitivity of 
the weightings.&nbsp; After running tests on several of my stocks, I was 
surprised to find that it worked better on average for more weight on the short 
and intermediate term and less on the long term.&nbsp; Therefore, my final 
weight values will be 2, 2, and 1 respectively instead of 1, 2, and 3.&nbsp; 
I've played with the other formulas and found the same relationship.&nbsp; I'll 
try to get time to post the results this week end and start to build the final 
test.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Jim&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>John Hunter &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:jhunter@xxxxxxxxxx";>jhunter@xxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: </B><A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>Wednesday, September 23, 1998 9:37 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: PV Binary 
    Wave System Test<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Jim,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>As always you have come 
    up with a system that tests the rest of us just to stay up.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>My simple attempt to understand what you are 
    doing with this function follows. Perhaps it will help someone else 
    understand it as well. If I am wrong then I guess I will be 
    told.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>The first statement asks whether or not the highest high 
    value of the low for the past 21 days occurred in the last 8 days. If it did 
    then the function goes up by two, if not then zero. <FONT size=2>The next 
    statement asks whether or not the highest high value of the low for the past 
    55 days occurred in the last 21 days. Again if yes then add two, if no then 
    zero. The reasoning is similar for the next four 
    statements.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>As an example, if the highest high value for the low and 
    the high for the past year (almost) occurred say in the last week then a 
    value of 10 would be returned for the first half of the function. This would 
    indicate that at least the resistance line has an upward slope.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>The next six statements look at the reverse situation. If 
    the lowest low value for the high and low occurred in the past week then a 
    value of minus 10 is returned. This would indicate that at least the support 
    line has a downward slope.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>If both conditions occurred in the past week then that 
    would be very interesting indeed! Leaving that aside, for the function to 
    return a positive result the hhv part of the expression has to be greater 
    than the llv part and vice versa. You have a simple enter long when the 
    expression returns a positive value with the converse also applying. It cant 
    be that simple.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Anyway now that I have eye-balled the expression (and 
    provided that my explanation above doesn't suffer too much) I will set about 
    to &quot;fiddle with this thing over the weekend and report back next 
    week.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>JH</FONT></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE 
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        <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original 
        Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Jim Greening &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:JimGinVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>JimGinVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
        </B>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
        </B>Monday, 14 September 1998 3:01<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: PV Binary Wave 
        System Test<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>All,</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Just read my post and see 
        that I made a mistake.&nbsp; I copied the wrong formula to the Enter 
        Short system test.&nbsp; Obviously the weightings should be opt1, opt2, 
        opt3 instead of 1, 2, 3 and -opt1, -opt2, -opt3 instead of -1, -2, 
        -3.&nbsp; Sorry about that &lt;G&gt;.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>Jim&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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            <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original 
            Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Jim Greening &lt;<A 
            href="mailto:JimGinVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>JimGinVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
            </B>Metastock &lt;<A 
            href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
            </B>Sunday, September 13, 1998 12:30 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>PV Binary 
            Wave System Test<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>All,</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I wanted 
            everyone to know that I hadn't forgotten the development of the 
            Price Volume Binary Wave.&nbsp; I've just been very busy and haven't 
            had much time for it.&nbsp; For one thing our first grandson (to go 
            with our two granddaughters) was born a couple of months ago.&nbsp; 
            They live about an hours drive North of us and needless to say, we 
            have been making that short trip often &lt;G&gt;.&nbsp; Anyway, back 
            to business.&nbsp; I combined the first two PVBW formulas into the 
            following:</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>PVBW01 (Highs &amp; 
            Lows)</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>If(HHV(L,8) = HHV(L,21),2,0) 
            +<BR>&nbsp;If(HHV(L,21) = HHV(L,55),2,0) +<BR>&nbsp; If(HHV(L,55) = 
            HHV(L,233),1,0) +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; If(HHV(H,8) = HHV(H,21),2,0) 
            +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If(HHV(H,21) = HHV(H,55),2,0) 
            +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If(HHV(H,55) = HHV(H,233),1,0) 
            +<BR>If(LLV(H,8) = LLV(H,21),-2,0) +<BR>&nbsp;If(LLV(H,21) = 
            LLV(H,55),-2,0) +<BR>&nbsp; If(LLV(H,55) = LLV(H,233),-1,0) 
            +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; If(LLV(L,8) = LLV(L,21),-2,0) 
            +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If(LLV(L,21) = LLV(L,55),-2,0) 
            +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If(LLV(L,55) = LLV(L,233),-1,0) 
            </FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2>Note that all I did was add the first two formulas 
            together and changed the weighting.&nbsp; The reason I changed the 
            weighting was that I copied the formula into the following simple MS 
            System Test and tested&nbsp; it on several of my 
stocks.</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2>05B_Tema PV BW</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Enter Long</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2>If(HHV(L,8) = HHV(L,21),opt1,0) 
            +<BR>&nbsp;If(HHV(L,21) = HHV(L,55),opt2,0) +<BR>&nbsp; If(HHV(L,55) 
            = HHV(L,233),opt3,0) +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; If(HHV(H,8) = 
            HHV(H,21),opt1,0) +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If(HHV(H,21) = 
            HHV(H,55),opt2,0) +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If(HHV(H,55) = 
            HHV(H,233),opt3,0) +<BR>If(LLV(H,8) = LLV(H,21),-opt1,0) 
            +<BR>&nbsp;If(LLV(H,21) = LLV(H,55),-opt2,0) +<BR>&nbsp; 
            If(LLV(H,55) = LLV(H,233),-opt3,0) +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; If(LLV(L,8) = 
            LLV(L,21),-opt1,0) +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If(LLV(L,21) = 
            LLV(L,55),-opt2,0) +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If(LLV(L,55) = 
            LLV(L,233),-opt3,0) &gt; 0</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000 size=2>&nbsp; Enter 
            Short</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>If(HHV(L,8) = 
            HHV(L,21),1,0) +<BR>&nbsp;If(HHV(L,21) = HHV(L,55),2,0) +<BR>&nbsp; 
            If(HHV(L,55) = HHV(L,233),3,0) +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; If(HHV(H,8) = 
            HHV(H,21),1,0) +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If(HHV(H,21) = HHV(H,55),2,0) 
            +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If(HHV(H,55) = HHV(H,233),3,0) 
            +<BR>If(LLV(H,8) = LLV(H,21),-1,0) +<BR>&nbsp;If(LLV(H,21) = 
            LLV(H,55),-2,0) +<BR>&nbsp; If(LLV(H,55) = LLV(H,233),-3,0) 
            +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; If(LLV(L,8) = LLV(L,21),-1,0) 
            +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If(LLV(L,21) = LLV(L,55),-2,0) 
            +<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If(LLV(L,55) = LLV(L,233),-3,0) &lt; 
            0</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2>OPT1:&nbsp; Min = 1&nbsp; Max = 3&nbsp; Step = 
            1</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>OPT2:&nbsp; Min = 1&nbsp; Max 
            = 3&nbsp; Step = 1</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>OPT2:&nbsp; Min = 1&nbsp; Max 
            = 3&nbsp; Step = 1</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I ran the test 
            on several of my stocks and was surprised by two things.&nbsp; 
            First, that just this simple test worked very well on most of my 
            stocks.&nbsp; Second and more important, that I had assigned my 
            original weighting wrong where I gave progressively more weight to 
            the longer term results.&nbsp; On average the tests performed better 
            with more weight to the short and intermediate term and less weight 
            to the long term.&nbsp; Therefore I changed my weighting from 1, 2, 
            3 to 2, 2, 1.&nbsp; I intend to do the same thing with the rest of 
            the PVBW formulas that I forwarded a few weeks ago and then look for 
            the optimum smoothing.&nbsp; Finally, I'll work on the test itself 
            and add some close conditions and vary the Enter long 
            conditions.&nbsp; I hope to be able to report back on the binary 
            wave components by next week and then proceed from 
            there.</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If anyone wants to 
            experiment and let me know the results or has ideas for other 
            components please let me know.&nbsp; Remember, I don't want to use 
            any indicators for this binary wave, only price/volume 
            relationships.</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2>Jim</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 
size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: "Jim Greening" <JimGinVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Bill,
     After the fact, I think you're wrong <G>.

Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Saxon <bsaxon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: EMail Fasttrack <fasttrack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; EMail List Metastock
<metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 10:02 AM
Subject: Greenspeak


>Apparently the market thinks Greenspan will weasel around and
innuendo
>a rate cut in the near future when he speaks to Congress today.  My
>experience is that the market usually goes down when he opens his
>mouth.  I think today will be no exception.  All of the major Indices
>are at or near heavy overhead resistance.  It seems the odds favor a
>bounce off and another leg down (# 5?).  Any comments?
>