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RE: NYSE Unchanged data



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Thanks Bill,

In answer to your questions: Yup & Yup.  The others on the list can
see from your table the decrease that I mentioned.

I no longer suspect a data problem.  Thanks to IanR who said that he
saw the same discrepancy in data from a different provider.

DaveZ's theory that the move to 1/32nds made it harder for stocks to
remain "unchanged" makes the most sense to me.  I used Excel to verify
that there _is_ a corresponding increase in the "Advancing Issues" and
"Declining Issues" during the time period in question.

My original theory was that the NYSE had delisted a bunch of stocks at
the same time - but there is no corresponding decrease in the "NYSE
Total Issues Traded" data, so that theory is probably wrong.

Bottom line is that people should be cautious about using market
breadth indicators that rely on NYSE Advances, Declines, or Unchanged
data from the middle of last year.

In case you haven't guessed, I'm working on adding sentiment
indicators including A-D Lines and Arms/TRIN indicators to my chart
site.  By the end of this week, you should be able to see these for
both the NYSE and the NASDAQ up on http://coolhistory.com/ChipsCharts

Chip
Wireless in Seattle via MCOM Ricochet


---Bill Forman <wforman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Chip,
> 
> Are you using the symbol X.NYSE-U for RTD?  Here is the data I just
> collected using this symbol.  Does this approximate the data you have?
> 
> 06/17/1997	901.000	901.000	901.000	901.000	585244
> 06/18/1997	868.000	868.000	868.000	868.000	454422
> 06/19/1997	835.000	835.000	835.000	835.000	529528
> 06/20/1997	788.000	788.000	788.000	788.000	636258
> 06/23/1997	776.000	776.000	776.000	776.000	321772
> 06/24/1997	629.000	629.000	629.000	629.000	273426
> 06/25/1997	555.000	555.000	555.000	555.000	437102
> 06/26/1997	615.000	615.000	615.000	615.000	353967
> 06/27/1997	610.000	610.000	610.000	610.000	326658
> 06/30/1997	565.000	565.000	565.000	565.000	304009
> 07/01/1997	546.000	546.000	546.000	546.000	238117
> 07/02/1997	570.000	570.000	570.000	570.000	349217
> 07/03/1997	575.000	575.000	575.000	575.000	312034
> 07/07/1997	537.000	537.000	537.000	537.000	277688
> 07/08/1997	585.000	585.000	585.000	585.000	298742
> 07/09/1997	549.000	549.000	549.000	549.000	297084
> 07/10/1997	561.000	561.000	561.000	561.000	382167
> 
> 
> Equis Support
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Chip Anderson [SMTP:chipamy@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent:	Thursday, January 22, 1998 9:18 AM
> > To:	metastock-list@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject:	NYSE Unchanged data
> > 
> > I've been looking at the NYSE Advancing, Declining, and Unchanged
> > Issues data and noticed something peculiar.  There is a sharp
decline
> > in the "Unchanged" data immediately after 6/20/97.  Before then, the
> > 20-day MA hovered between 700 and 800 going back several years.  But
> > after 6/20/97 it appears to fall off of a cliff and eventually
> > stabilizes between 450 and 550.  The chart looks just like a chart
> > that hasn't been adjusted for a stock split.  The Unchanged volume
> > data shows a similar (percentage-wise) decline.  
> > 
> > (FWIW, I don't notice similar changes in the Advancing Issues or
> > Declining Issues charts during the same timeframe.)
> > 
> > Two questions:
> > 1.) Does anyone else see this same pattern, or is it a data
problem? 
> > I'm using Reuter's Trend Datalink.  Does data from a different
> > provider show the same decrease?
> > 
> > 2.) Assuming the data is accurate, what could explain this?  Did the
> > NYSE kick out a bunch of low volume stocks after 6/20/97?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Chip
> > http://coolhistory.com/ChipsCharts
> 








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