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<P>I like these comments. Any reply from MS developer? When they plan to adopt
into new MS?</P>
<P>At the moment I plan to upgrade my 6.00 to 6.5.
<P>6.0 is great , I love it, easier my job.
<P>Should I wait until next version, or upgrade it now.
<P>Thank and
<P>Rgds.
<P>h.azh</P>
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<B>From: </B>Chip Anderson <chipa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>
<B>To: </B>'David_Radtke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'; metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>
<B>Date: </B>Wednesday, October 15, 1997 12:48 AM<BR>
<B>Subject: </B>RE: Explorer Results as Input to Subsequent Explorations<BR>
<BR>
<HTML><BODY><FONT size=2>| What you want to do makes perfect sense, and I think
is a major oversight<BR>
| in Meta Stock to have left this feature out. Unfortunately the downfall<BR>
of<BR>
| most software applications that involve Trading is that they are<BR>
developed<BR>
| by people with expertise in Software Development not Trading!<BR>
<BR>
Here, here!! After using MS 6.0 and 6.5 for a couple of months now, it
is<BR>
_very_ obvious that Equis has not done any Useability testing on the<BR>
product with real-world technicians. I guess they assumed that by<BR>
emulating MS Office, they wouldn't need to Useability test it - wrong!<BR>
<BR>
Examples (off the top of my head):<BR>
<BR>
1. Almost impossible to create indicators that work on more than 1 price.<BR>
You have to create a composite file in the Downloader - lame! Even
there<BR>
you are limited to combining just 2 prices and using simple arithmetic<BR>
operators. Try creating a chart of your portfolio - if you have more
than<BR>
1 stock in it, you're in for a really hard time.<BR>
<BR>
2. Downloader doesn't interact with MS Excel.<BR>
In theory, using MS Excel is a great way to get around the problem above.<BR>
But the Downloader doesn't update your Excel files, so you must update<BR>
them manually every night (yuck) or create very complicated and fragile<BR>
macros to update things for you (double yuck).<BR>
<BR>
3. Doesn't save the width of your charts.<BR>
I am constantly rescaling my charts each time I load them. This is<BR>
inexcusable! When I save a chart and then reload it, I expect to see
the<BR>
same thing!<BR>
<BR>
4. Notes on charts don't scale when you zoom in or out.<BR>
Combine this fact with #3 above and you can forget about having nicely<BR>
maintained annotated charts.<BR>
<BR>
5. Having Trend Lines and Chart Notes disappear when you switch from Daily<BR>
to Weekly mode.<BR>
Lame, lame, lame!<BR>
<BR>
6. Applying a template creates a whole new chart.<BR>
That is plain wrong. Apply the template to the current chart.<BR>
<BR>
7. If you print in black and white, your chart GIFs are stored in black and<BR>
white.<BR>
Like there is a correlation between people with B/W printers (everyone)<BR>
and people with B/W web sites (no one!). (I admit that this one is kind
of<BR>
minor, but it is a great example of lack of useability testing.)<BR>
<BR>
8. Volume bars can't change color for up/down days.<BR>
Hello? This is critical for visual volume trend analysis.<BR>
<BR>
9. No vertical scrollbars or chart windows<BR>
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!<BR>
<BR>
10. Saving charts does not save custom vertical axis settings.<BR>
(See comment for #9)<BR>
<BR>
=================<BR>
<BR>
In addition to fixing the things above, here's are some suggested<BR>
improvements:<BR>
<BR>
1. Always show the Profit/Loss of any buy/sell arrows on my chart<BR>
2. Allow me to "manually" set buy/sell points on my chart<BR>
3. Create "palettes" of colors that I can apply to an existing
chart.<BR>
4. Indicator functions should understand "default" parameters so I
don't<BR>
have to constantly look them up.<BR>
5. Auto-draw trendlines and Support/Resistance Levels<BR>
6. Allow me to create indicators with parameters that I can a.) set in the<BR>
properties dialoag and b.) optimize in the system tester.<BR>
7. Allow me to create indicators that are visually composed of several<BR>
other indicators (kinda like MACD's 2 lines)<BR>
8. Make it trivially easy to compare the relative strength of one or more<BR>
securities/indicators.<BR>
<BR>
=================<BR>
<BR>
The above may make you think I hate the product - that's not true. I
use<BR>
it constantly and find it of great value. Like anything I use alot
though,<BR>
its faults get magnified in my mind. MS 6.5 is great in so many areas
that<BR>
these seemingly minor things really detract from my overall experience and<BR>
make me question if it was useability tested at all.<BR>
<BR>
Please take my ramblings as the constructive criticism they are meant to<BR>
be.<BR>
<BR>
Thanks,<BR>
Chip<BR>
<BR>
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Harry,
I don't know about Murphy's books. Never read them. Could be OK.
I want a technical analyist to tell me when he expects a move to take place
before the move, not after and that is what Muphy fails to do. He just
doesn't want to stick his neck out. If you get some good out of his
reports then he isn't a complete waste. I'll just continue to turn the
sound down :-)
I hope you noticed the word "fading" when I commented on Dorfman. If he
liked it I shorted, if he hated it I bought. He was bad news from the time
he used to write in the WSJ.
Good luck on your investing.
Bob Doeden
Chicago
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> I can agree with you for the most part about CNN as a whole. They seem
> to have
> mannequinns pretending to be Wall Street experts. Even the guys look
> pretty. Anyway,
> I disagree about the comments about Murphy. I have read "The Visual
> Investor" and
> the "Technical Analysis of Futures Markets". These book have helped me
> immensly.
> There are other books about technical analysis that may be better but I
> like John's
> reasoning behind most of the indicators. His appearance on CNBC is very
> valuable
> to me. I don't always agree with his reports. However, I have done
> pretty well with
> his advice. And as far as Danny Dorfman, did'nt he get nailed for
> illegal activities?
Harry J. Kobetitsch wrote:
> Robert Doeden wrote:
>
> > This guy is the worst analyst around. He is great about showing a
> > move after
> > it takes place but as for forecasting moves before they take place
> > he's a
> > loser. The last actual forecast he made (a couple of weeks ago) that
> > I
> > remember was for the dollar to hold at 97.25. It is now 96.64. I
> > admit I now
> > miss most of his comments. I turn the sound off when he comes on.
> > I've watched
> > him for years and he is a waste of time. Dan Dorfman made me more
> > money than
> > Murphy. I was getting rich fading Dorfman.. My income has been
> > severely cut
> > since they took him off. :-)
> >
> > CNBC also had John Bollinger (of Bollinger bands fame) who came to
> > them in the
> > merger with FNN. Either they let Bollinger go shortly after the
> > merger or he
> > wanted to stay in California where FNN was located. I never heard.
> > Anyway,
> > now Bollinger comes on CNBC once a week for a couple of minutes I
> > think on
> > Tuesdays sometime between 14:30 and 15:00 Chicago time. I get more
> > good out of
> > Bollinger's 2 minutes a week than all of Murphy's time that week.
> >
> > Frankly, I don't know what Murphy is still doing on CNBC. He ain't
> > pretty and
> > they usually only have pretty people on that channel that spout
> > nonsense.
> > Come to think of it that is what he spouts so maybe they overlook the
> > pretty
> > part.
> >
> > I sure miss FNN. I'll trade 4 CNBC'S for 1 FNN.
> >
>
> I can agree with you for the most part about CNN as a whole. They seem
> to have
> mannequinns pretending to be Wall Street experts. Even the guys look
> pretty. Anyway,
> I disagree about the comments about Murphy. I have read "The Visual
> Investor" and
> the "Technical Analysis of Futures Markets". These book have helped me
> immensly.
> There are other books about technical analysis that may be better but I
> like John's
> reasoning behind most of the indicators. His appearance on CNBC is very
> valuable
> to me. I don't always agree with his reports. However, I have done
> pretty well with
> his advice. And as far as Danny Dorfman, did'nt he get nailed for
> illegal activities?
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