Re: [amibroker] Re: Where does Amibroker store its formula files, AmiBroker Email List Archive

Maybe one day we will have an easier way to backup our custom formula, a way to export them and a way to import them (like organizer in metastock).

I really don't understand why it's so complicated, For what I see I believe to have backup of my file when I copy the directory but I don't have , should I copy all them one by one in word ??

Michel

To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
From: bing.kwok@xxxxxxxxxcom.au
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:55:07 +0000
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Where does Amibroker store its formula files

Hi Keith,

Problem solved exactly as per the steps you listed.

Many thanks for all who put forth suggestions

Bing

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com, Keith McCombs <kmccombs@xx.> wrote:
>
> Bing --
> Try my original suggestion to you.
> 1. Save what ever source files you can from win7.
> 2. Uninstall AB32 from \Program Files (x86)\.
> 3. Install AB32 5.20 in \Program Files\.
> 4. Copy over all of AB 5.2x from old computer right over new install.
>
> Hint: The slowest part of the copy over is the actual transfer. Also
> USB thumb drives are faster than IntraNet. Zip or RAR old AB directly
> to USB thumb. Then directly unzip to new computer. If it takes longer
> than drinking a cup of coffee, you're not enjoying your coffee.
>
> This works! I do it all the time, back and forth between laptop and
> desktop. Don't worry about how much time it takes to transfer the large
> data files. You will spend more time worrying than transferring.
> -- Keith
>
> On 3/4/2010 06:09, bingk66 wrote:
> >
> > Hi Tomasz,
> >
> > Thank you for your detailed response.
> >
> > I did run the full setup of Amibroker V5.20. The result of this full
> > setup was that the Amibroker directory was created under C:\Program
> > Files (x86). Seeing how the install program already created the
> > Amibroker directory, I had assumed that it was safe, perhaps naively,
> > that it was possible to substitute the contents of one Amibroker
> > directory with another. I seem to recall support mentioning that it
> > was OK to copy the entire AMibroker directory across if you wanted to
> > keep all your data, formulas, layouts chart setup etc etc identical to
> > what you had in the original computer. Perhaps that advice from
> > support was not applicable to Vista or 7, only to XP.
> >
> > In view of what you have just said, is there a simple and safe way to
> > copy across all the data, formulas, layouts chart setup etc etc from
> > the old computer without copying the entire Amibroker directory ?
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Tomasz Janeczko <groups@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Quote from the user:
> > > "I copied the entire Amibroker directory from my old computer onto the
> > > C:\Program files
> > >
> > > (x86) directory in the new computer and started up Amibroker."
> > >
> > >
> > > Wrong!
> > >
> > > All your problems come from the fact that you have copied files
> > manually,
> > > instead of running full setup from
> > > http://www.amibroker.com/bin/AmiBroker520.exe
> > <http://www.amibroker.com/bin/AmiBroker520.exe>
> > > to install AmiBroker into FINAL directory.
> > >
> > > You can not just copy files in Windows 7 inside "Program Files" or
> > > "Program Files (x86)"
> > > because these directories are PROTECTED (even under admin account) and
> > > Windows
> > > will redirect all write to virtual folders.
> > >
> > > Running FULL SETUP is absolutely necessary on Windows VISTA and
> > Windows 7.
> > >
> > > Without running FULL SETUP Windows Vista and Windows 7 will use its
> > > folder virtualization.
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927387
> > <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927387>
> > >
> > >
> > > Running setup is a MUST because only setup programs are allowed in
> > > Windows Vista / 7 to
> > > write to Program Files and allow programs to actually have write access
> > > subdirectory.
> > > The setup program will enable write rights to AmiBroker directory and
> > > only then you
> > > will be able to actually create files inside without being
> > redirected by
> > > Windows Folder Virtualization.
> > >
> > > So once again:
> > > 1. DELETE everything by hand.
> > > 2. RUN FULL SETUP http://www.amibroker.com/bin/AmiBroker520.exe
> > <http://www.amibroker.com/bin/AmiBroker520.exe>
> > > and select proper FINAL directory.
> > > DO NOT COPY anything by hand.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > amibroker.com
> > >
> > > On 2010-03-04 10:25, bingk66 wrote:
> > > > Hi Mike,
> > > >
> > > > Using the Dir command from good old DOS has shed some light on my
> > problem. Everytime I update a formula from within Amibroker, a new
> > file is created inside the
> > C:\Users\Bing\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files
> > (x86)\Amibroker\Formulas\Custom folder. From what I can tell, this is
> > the directory that Amibroker (or Windows 7) will look into first to
> > find whatever files it need. If it finds it there, it will use that
> > version.
> > > >
> > > > If it does not find the file that it requires, it will then go to
> > > >
> > > > C:\Users\Bing\Program Files (x86)\Amibroker\Formulas\Custom
> > > >
> > > > The problem that I have is that everytime I update a formula
> > within Amibroker, a new version of the file is created in
> > C:\Users\Bing\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files
> > (x86)\Amibroker\Formulas\Custom. This results in 2 different versions
> > kept of each updated file which is a pain to say the least. Also I
> > cannot use Windows Explorer to zoom down to this directory because it
> > does not recognise the AppData directory
> > > >
> > > > Would you have any idea why this is happening ??
> > > >
> > > > Bing
> > > >
> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> > <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mike"<sfclimbers@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> That being the case, all I can suggest is double and triple check
> > the complete path of the file that you are drilling down to via
> > Explorer vs. the path that shows up in the Save As dialog. It sounds
> > like you're looking at two different copies of the file.
> > > >>
> > > >> If you're not used to Windows 7, but can still access a command
> > prompt, just use good ol' DOS to find all copies of the file:
> > > >>
> > > >> To get to the root drive you can do:
> > > >>
> > > >> cd \
> > > >>
> > > >> From root drive do this:
> > > >>
> > > >> dir /s myfile.afl
> > > >>
> > > >> Do not type in any directory paths, just type the name of your
> > file ignoring all directories, the /s flag will cause a deep search of
> > all subdirectories (i.e. the entire drive since you are starting from
> > root).
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike
> > > >>
> > > >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> > <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>, "bingk66"<bing.kwok@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi Mike,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It means that I shutdown Amibroker, then using windows explorer
> > go into the C:\program files (x86)\Amibroker directory, dive down all
> > the way to the folder that contain the afl file that I had just
> > modified within AB. I then open that AFL file using a simple text
> > editor like notepad and have a look.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> > <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mike"<sfclimbers@> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Bing,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> What *exactly* are you doing when you say "when I have a look
> > at the file outside of AB"?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Mike
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> > <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>, "bingk66"<bing.kwok@> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi Mike and Keith,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks for your prompt responses.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I tried using the save as option within the File save option
> > and it tells me that the directory it was trying to save the file into
> > is indeed C:\Program Files (x86)\Amibroker .... etc. So I actually
> > went ahead and did the save and it all appears to work within AB.
> > However, when I have a look at the file outside of AB, once again it
> > does not reflect the changes.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> It looks like I will have to follow Keith's suggestion of
> > uninstalling AB from c:\program files (x86) and then reinstalling it
> > back into C:\program files. However, before doing that, my problem now
> > is that I like to backup the work done in Windows 7, but I cannot do
> > it because I don't know where the actual files are kept. To physically
> > go through and identify all the changes within Windows 7 would be a
> > very time consuming and error prone exercise which I am hoping to avoid.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> AB must be storing these formulas outside of C:\Program Files
> > (x86) because when I am working with the formulas within AB, it
> > displays the absolute latest versions of the code, right down to the
> > indentings, comments, tabs etc etc and those details must surely be
> > stored somewhere.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Bing
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> > <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>, Keith McCombs<kmccombs@> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Bingk --
> > > >>>>>> This would be a great opportunity to rant against the idiots
> > at M$ for
> > > >>>>>> making such un-user-friendly software. They could have kept
> > \Program
> > > >>>>>> Files\ for 32bit programs. And made a new folder called
> > \Program Files
> > > >>>>>> 64\ for 64bit programs. But that would be too easy for us
> > users. And
> > > >>>>>> M$ will probably sell more 'upgraded' software this way. End
> > of rant.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> There are probably many ways to solve your problem. This is
> > the way I
> > > >>>>>> did. When installing AB (32bit version) do not install in the
> > default
> > > >>>>>> folder, \Program Files (x86)\. Instead install it in \Program
> > Files\.
> > > >>>>>> Continue until you are asked for your working folder. Then
> > set that to
> > > >>>>>> \Program Files\ also. Now copy the entire Amibroker directory
> > from your
> > > >>>>>> old computer onto the C:\Program files\. That's it.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Well not all of it. BEFORE you do the above, the safest thing
> > is to
> > > >>>>>> save any Win7 AB work, .afl files, that you want to some
> > folder outside
> > > >>>>>> of \Amibroker\. Then uninstall AB from \Program Files (x86)\.
> > Then go
> > > >>>>>> to the paragraph above.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> BTW, Amibroker is available as a 64bit program also. But
> > DON'T try to
> > > >>>>>> use it yet. Get the 32bit version working to your
> > satisfaction first.
> > > >>>>>> Then if you feel you want to try the 64bit, after there is at
> > least a
> > > >>>>>> 5.30 version, it is simple to install, and still have the
> > 32bit to fall
> > > >>>>>> back on. Just ask again for how to do it.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Hope this helps,
> > > >>>>>> -- Keith
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On 3/2/2010 22:55, bingk66 wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Hi all,
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I have just bought a new computer that runs Windows 7 Home
> > Premium. I
> > > >>>>>>> subsequently installed Amibroker V5.2 Full version. Unlike
> > previous
> > > >>>>>>> versions of Amibroker in my previous computer whereby the
> > Amibroker
> > > >>>>>>> directory was found in C:\Program Files\, this particular
> > installation
> > > >>>>>>> on my new computer has the Amibroker directory located in the
> > > >>>>>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\ instead, which I thought was a
> > little strange
> > > >>>>>>> but OK, as Amibroker seems to be working well.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Now as part of my migration into the new computer, I copied
> > the entire
> > > >>>>>>> Amibroker directory from my old computer onto the C:\Program
> > files
> > > >>>>>>> (x86) directory in the new computer and started up
> > Amibroker. Once
> > > >>>>>>> again, all my formulas and charts seem to work OK, Amibroker
> > appears
> > > >>>>>>> to be refering to the correct directory, so no problems.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> After making some changes to some formulas within Amibroker,
> > I saved
> > > >>>>>>> my work and exited Amibroker. I then went into the C:\
> > Program files
> > > >>>>>>> (x86)\Amibroker to check that the changes that I had made within
> > > >>>>>>> Amibroker was corrected reflected inside C:\ Program files
> > > >>>>>>> (x86)\Amibroker. To my surprise, the work that I had saved
> > within
> > > >>>>>>> Amibroker was not updated within the C:\ Program files
> > (x86)\Amibroker
> > > >>>>>>> directory. I tried to make some more changes within
> > Amibroker and once
> > > >>>>>>> again these changes were not reflected in the Program files
> > > >>>>>>> (x86)\Amibroker directory.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Just to test things out a little further, I created a new test
> > > >>>>>>> directory within the C:\ Program files
> > (x86)\Amibroker\Formulas folder
> > > >>>>>>> just to see whether Amibroker would recognize it and pick it
> > up when
> > > >>>>>>> it loaded up next. Sure enough, Amibroker picked it up the new
> > > >>>>>>> directory, but not only that, it also retained all the
> > changes that I
> > > >>>>>>> had made to the various formulas. So from Amibroker's point
> > of view,
> > > >>>>>>> everything is working OK. My question then is where is Amibroker
> > > >>>>>>> storing all of its formulas ??, if its not inside C:\
> > Program files
> > > >>>>>>> (x86)\Amibroker\Formulas
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> This is a problem for me as my backup routines look inside
> > the C:\
> > > >>>>>>> Program files (x86)\Amibroker\Formulas directory to backup
> > my formulas
> > > >>>>>>> and at the moment, its backing up code that does not
> > incorporate the
> > > >>>>>>> changes that I made within AMibroker.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Would appreciate any feedback
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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