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[amibroker] Re: Telechart vs Norgate


  • Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:46:31 -0000
  • From: "Mike" <sfclimbers@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: [amibroker] Re: Telechart vs Norgate

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Richard,

Any update on when we can expect a 64 bit implementation? Data vendor holdouts are probably the primary thing holding back a groundswell (ok, so maybe just a ripple!) of users from making the leap to 64 bit.

With 64 bit OS's becoming more mainstream, the time has come.

Mike

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Richard Dale <richard@xxx> wrote:
>
> We quite regularly deal with this question.
> 
> The major index providers (S&P, Dow Jones, FTSE, MSCI) produce indexes 
> that are NOT adjusted for normal cash dividends but do adjust for 
> special dividends.  This includes such headline indexes as S&P 500, Dow 
> Jones Industrial Average etc.
> 
> The major quote terminal vendors (eg. Bloomberg and Reuters) display 
> charts and data that are NOT adjusted for cash dividends.
> 
> Therefore Norgate chose early on to use the method employed by 
> institutional investors/traders and professional trading platforms.
> 
> Perhaps where this has become popular is that some online free chart 
> systems (such as Yahoo) displays with dividends adjusted but this is not 
> the industry standard (at least not at the professional/institutional 
> level).
> 
> That being said, in early 2010 we'll be releasing a beta version of our 
> entirely revamped data updating software and native plugin for AmiBroker 
> that will allow you to select:
> a) No adjustments
> b) Capital adjustments only (i.e. splits, reconstructions, reverse 
> splits, capital returns, spinoffs etc.)
> c) Capital adjustments + special dividends (i.e. the same methodology as 
> S&P, Dow Jones etc.)
> d) Total return (i.e. all capital adjustments plus all dividends).
> It will also let you incorporate multiple stock exchanges/markets too.  
> It also updates the entire US markets including all maintenance in about 
> 30 seconds per day on my PC.
> 
> Once it's ready we'll be asking anybody who is interested in helping 
> test to be part of the beta testing team.  Anybody who is interested in 
> helping please email me on richard@xxx to be notified when 
> it's ready for testing.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Richard Dale.
> Norgate Investor Services
> - Premium quality Stock, Futures and Foreign Exchange Data for
>    markets in Australia, Asia, Canada, Europe, UK&  USA -
> www.premiumdata.net
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message  --------
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Telechart vs Norgate
> From: B S <bs2167@xxx>
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:41:57 -0800 (pst)
> > Yes to the first question. If a stock is trading at 
> > $10.00 on 12/1/2000 and the ex-date for a $1.00 quartely cash dividend 
> > is 12/2/2000, I would expect the stock to open at $9.00 on 12/2/2000, 
> > all else being equal.  I believe to correctly test a trading 
> > system, the price history for 12/1/2000 should be adjusted from $10.00 
> > to $9.00.  Additionally, all prices prior to 12/1/2000 should be 
> > adjusted down by the same factor.  Am I wrong? Further, why would you 
> > adjust prices for special cash dividends but not ordinary quarterly 
> > cash dividends - seems inconsistent both logically and economically.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* "Kevin243@xxx" <Kevin243@xxx>
> > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > *Sent:* Mon, December 28, 2009 10:00:15 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [amibroker] Re: Telechart vs Norgate
> >
> > Don't you agree that the market adjusts prices as dividends are paid?
> > A double adjustment?
> > In a message dated 12/28/2009 8:13:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
> > bs2167@xxxxxx com writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     Hi- Question for those of you who use Norgate: how do you contend
> >     with the fact that prices are not adjusted for ordinary cash
> >     dividends?  I've seen a few data providers who do it this
> >     way...but I can't understand why...am I missing something?  All
> >     their reviews seem to be very positive, so I was disappointed to
> >     discover this.
> >
> >     --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxx ps.com, "droskill" <droskill@> wrote:
> >     >
> >     > Norgate is likely, when they get finished with an upgrade this
> >     year, to be my preferred data vendor - they're not quite there yet
> >     for me (I want a single provider for both Amibroker and
> >     Tradersstudio) but I'm guessing they will be soon.
> >     >
> >     > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxx ps.com, Graham <kavemanperth@> wrote:
> >     > >
> >     > > Norgate data is very good
> >     > >
> >     > > --
> >     > > Cheers
> >     > > Graham Kav
> >     > > AFL Writing Service
> >     > > http://www.aflwriti ng.com
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > >
> >     > > 2009/3/24 jmdeacon <jmdeacon@>:
> >     > > > I currently use Telechart EOD data.  I have used it for the
> >     last 3 years and have only found a handful of instances of bad
> >     data.  I am interested in having delisted data to eliminate
> >     survivorship bias and heard about Norgate.  They provide delisted
> >     historical data back to 1950.
> >     > > >
> >     > > > Does anyone have any opinions on the quality of the Norgate
> >     data?
> >     > > >
> >     > > > Thanks,
> >     > > >
> >     > > > John
> >     > >
> >     >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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