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Bruce,
 
maybe I got a little confused but what I just can´t put together.
Regarding setpositionsize, what you said made perfect sense to me (values below "-2000" mean shares) but according to
 
 
negative values of possize (i.e. also the ones "-2000 - x") will be regarded as percentage of equity/cash rather than number of shares, right?
 
Am I missing here something?
 
Sorry for wasting your time!
 
Markus
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Using CBI the first time

 

Hello Bruce,
 
the code you provided does not what I intend to do - unfortunately!
 
"sig.possize" only can hold dollar value (positive numbers) and percent of equity (negative numbers)
 
Percent of equity (or cash for that matter) can also mean differing values for shares/contracts being bought due to rounding if fractional share sizes occur!?
 
In the example I provide further below, I backtest an S&P contract.
 
The system carries positions in $1 / handle lots and rounds to the nearest 250 lots, representing one S&P 500 contract.
 
Incidentally, the "risk per lot" used below is actually an exponential lage of the Average true range multilied by a constant (say 5).
 
Lot_size_not_rounded=(heat*bo.cash)/(Risk_per_lot)
 
Lot_size_rounded=Round(Lot_size_not_rounded/250)
 
Unit_size=Lot_size_rounded*250
 
With numbers:
 
Lot_size_not_rounded=(0.1*1000,000 USD)/3.115*5)=6420.545746
Lot_size_rounded=Round(6420.545746/250)=Round(25.682....)=26
Unit_size=26*250=6500 units to be bought.
 
I´m afraid using percentages of cash or position value [expressed in USD] could result (due to rounding) in slightly different shares to be bought/sold thus influencing the whole process. I ned to reproduce the exact share/contract numbers!
 
I figure going like this is the only chance I have:

sharesize=round(((Heat*bo.cash)/(Expon._lag_of_ATR*ATRmultiplier))/250)*250; // i.e. # of shares/lots like above

sig.possize=sharesize*sig.price; // i.e. position value - I must use THAT since it´s needed in EnterTrade that I must use in low-level format. And I need low-level format

since I intend to include proprietary stops (not ASpplyStop) in a later stage of development!!

bo.EnterTrade(i, sig.Symbol, True, sig.Price, sig.PosSize);

I know "sig.possize means" Dollar value here. "sharesize" means unit size or # of shares. I just hope that AB doens´t round the value of sharesize somewhere in the backtesting process thereby lossing the exact number of shares/units I intend to buy!!!!!!

But this may be an issue to discuss with TJ if no one has an idea how to do this??!!

In case I didn´t explain myself properly, please let me know and I´ll clarify.

Thanks!

Markus

----- Original Message -----
From: bruce1r
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:46 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Using CBI the first time

 

Markus -

OK, here's an example of what I think that you were after.  It is a non-practical demo, but should show some points about encoding of signal types.  In your case, it shows calculating number of shares directly from % of cash and putting it in the signal object for the backtester to process.   See the comments for details and the AA results for the effect.  BTW, I hope you'll find some other nuggets in this example also, and find it useful as a framework for exploring some aspects of the CBT.  Some aspects of the CBT just need to be "played" with to see what is possible.  This will teach me to get involved. :-)

-- BruceR

//  Simple example to do the following -
//       1. Buy on the first trading day of the month and sell 5 days later
//       2. Setup default to buy $5000
//       3. Then, in the CBT, modify the trades on even months to buy s
//          shares equal to 20% of cash.
//
//  NOTE - the encodings for PosSize as detailed in the SetPositionSize() help are -
//              values below -2000 encode share count,
//              values between -2000 AND -1000 encode % of current position (scaling)
//              values between -1000 AND 0 encode % of portfolio Equity
//              values above 0 encode dollar value

Buy = IIf( Month( ) != Ref( Month( ), -1 ), 1, 0 );
Sell = Ref( Buy, -5 );
Short = Cover = 0;
SetPositionSize( 5000, spsValue );
SetOption( "InitialEquity", 100000 );
RoundLotSize = 1;

//  MID-LEVEL CBT MODEL
SetOption( "UseCustomBacktestProc", True );
if ( Status( "action" ) == actionPortfolio )
{
   bo =
GetBacktesterObject( );
   bo.PreProcess( );

   mon =
Month( );
   dt =
DateTime( );
   
for ( bar = 0; bar < BarCount; bar++ )
   {
      
for( sig = bo.GetFirstSignal( bar ); sig; sig = bo.GetNextSignal( bar ) )
      {
         
//  On even months, arbitrarily buy shares = 20% of cash
         
//  On odd months, $5000 will be used from SetPositionSize above
         
if ( sig.IsEntry )
         {
            
if ( Mon[ bar ] % 2 == 0 AND sig.IsEntry )
            {
               
//  Note - int() function effectively rounds down
               shares =
int( bo.cash * 0.20 / sig.Price );
               sig.PosSize = -
2000 - shares;
            }
            
_TRACE( NumToStr( dt[ bar ], formatDateTime ) +
               
" , Cash = " + bo.Cash +
               
" , Price = " + sig.Price +
               
" , PositionSize = " + sig.possize );
         }

      }

      bo.ProcessTradeSignals( bar );
   }

   bo.PostProcess( );
}

 


--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com, "bruce1r" <brucer@xxx> wrote:
>
> Markus -
>
> I don't think that you, and maybe Mike, are seeing what I'm trying to point out. I referred you to SetPositionSize() help because it details the encoding of shares in PosSize in the signal object in the CBT. Specically that is (-2000-shares).
>
> When you traverse the signal objects in the CBT, you can do your own calculation of shares from cash or whatever, and replace the sig.PosSize value before calling the mid or low level routines to process trades.
>
> Stated simply, you can set the number of shares yourself directly in the CBT from your own calculation.
>
> If that is what you're after, give me a short time and I'll whip up an example if you don't see this.
>
> -- Bruce
>
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com, Markus Witzler funnybiz@ wrote:
> >
> > Hello Bruce,
> >
> > the reason I must use CBT is that I can´t use Setpositionsize (...spsshares), since I need to compute adequate number of shares by referring to actual cash position.
> >
> > "spsShares" doesn´t allow - according to cust. support- for calling current cash or equity position to compute "spsshares". Thus the need for using CBT.
> >
> > Normally, everyone seems to compute sig.possize (and implied number of shares is a result thereof). I want to compute shares and the position size (in money terms) should be the implied result - thus the other way around.
> >
> > The reason for this is that i want to follow along a coding excercise I was given. And I´m not sure that -if I only specify sig.possize and not sharesize (i.e. trade.shares)- that AB may screw up (i.e. round up or down in some cases) when I don´t realize that.
> >
> > Take for instance into account that AB ALWAYS rounds DOWN if fraction of shares occur.
> >
> > I, myself, want to have control if rounding occurs or not and HOw it occurs (up or down). That could sometimes mean I´m rounding up when AB would round down.
> >
> > This is not because I´m particularly picky since this issue influences the outcome of the backtest only slightly. It´s only that I want to accurately reproduce the results of the excercise I was given.
> >
> > In actual trading, there shouldn´t be any problem determining sig.possize in signal list and leave it up to AB to (maybe) rounding up or down potential fractional shares.
> >
> > If you have any clue that might help, please fell free to step in.
> >
> > Thanks for your contribution
> >
> > Markus
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