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Herman,

That would be impossible for a generic editor (unless there was a standard api for that).  That could only be done by integrating that feature into a purpose built editor like the Formula editor.  In NP++ someone would have to modify the source code to make it happen. I was not planning on using it for initial creation work, just editing work in multiple include files.  It is not going to have the AFL specific features except for syntax coloring -- which I do need to help recognize the context for editing.  

NP++ does have a plugin interface, but I don't know if it is enough to implement that or not.  

However, you can have NP++ and AFL Formula editor open at the same time on the same file.  Each will overwrite the others file. Formula editor can not tell that NP++ has overwritten so you would have to manually open it again, but NP++ can tell if Formula editor has saved a change and offers to reload the changed file.  So, If you can keep your windows straight in your head, you can juggle the features of both at the same time.  LOL

BR,
Dennis



On Feb 21, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Herman wrote:

can you call up Help with F1, and have function popups when using an external editor?

Thanks,
herman 


Saturday, February 21, 2009, 4:54:13 PM, you wrote:

> Bruce,

> Thanks for posting the files and the instructions.  That was a big
> help and much appreciated.
> It was easy to follow your directions, and I am up and running with NP+
> + and AFL now.
> I will just add the extra keywords as I run into them for now.

> Funny about the /* and *   /  operators.  That must be a bug since
> half the languages they support use them.

> Best regards,
> Dennis

> On Feb 21, 2009, at 3:14 PM, bruce1r wrote:

>> Dennis, Mike, all -

>> It looked like there is a new updated ZIP in the Files section.  I
>> took a quick look and it is very similar to what I did.  I don't want
>> to duplicate that effort, but I decided to upload what I did for three
>> reasons -

>> 1. I had set up to add to a standard Notepad++ install.  It only takes
>> the addition of two files to specific places.  This will allow future
>> updated version of Notepad++ to be easily adapted.

>> 2. I suspect that others will want custom colors or to add keywords,
>> etc.  I had a brief DOC file that I had done in the past that I
>> updated.  Notepad++ has a good UI for customizing the language
>> definition, but it is not obvious where to find it, so I thought I'd
>> give a jump start.

>> 3. The auto-completion seemed to have changed with 5.0 and I went
>> ahead and adapted my definitions to the new XML format.

>> Anyway, the two files and the doc are in the Files section under
>> "Notepad++ - AFL Customization".

>> I hope that you find this somewhat useful.  No warranties :-)  As I
>> mentioned, I use it, but only for specialized tasks.


>> -- Bruce


>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@xxx> wrote:

>>> The NP++ in the zip has everything installed in it, but it is an old
>>> version of NP++.  It will take a while to sort through all those  
>>> files
>>> in the zip to figure out which ones to use to get AFL into the latest
>>> version.  Later...

>>> BR,
>>> Dennis


>>> On Feb 21, 2009, at 2:17 AM, ozzyapeman wrote:

>>>> In the files section of this group:

>>>> application/zip     noteplus.zip
>>>> notepadd++ with afl autocomplete and afl keywords   


>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "ozzyapeman" <zoopfree@> wrote:

>>>>> Doesn't Notepad++ come with the AFL syntax built in? My version  
>>>>> did.
>>>>> AFL is the last option under the language menu. Seems to highlight
>>>>> AFL
>>>>> syntax correctly.


>>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Mike" <sfclimbers@> wrote:

>>>>>> +1 for posting your XML. I've been wanting to get around to
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> similar for a long time now.

>>>>>> Mike

>>>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "bruce1r" <brucer@> wrote:

>>>>>>> Dennis -

>>>>>>> I've gone down these editor paths in the past.  I'm not sure that
>>>>>>> you'll come to the same conclusion, but I'll tell you what I  
>>>>>>> found
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> perhaps it will be of help

>>>>>>> At various times I've tried the following for AFL dev -

>>>>>>> Textpad
>>>>>>> EditPad
>>>>>>> UltraEdit
>>>>>>> Notepad++

>>>>>>> Textpad is an editor that I still use with another backtest
>>>>>> package.
>>>>>>> But, I looked at the other three for a while for use with AB.
>>>>>>> UltraEdit held the most promise because of its scripting  
>>>>>>> capability
>>>>>>> potentially driving AB, but seemed a little costly.  Notepad++  
>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>> good open source alternative, but can be quirky.  Lots of add- 
>>>>>>> ins,
>>>>>> though.

>>>>>>> My main motivation was similar to yours - projects with a  
>>>>>>> number of
>>>>>>> include files..  I also find code folding VERY useful in seeing  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> "big picture", and that was the main reason that I invested  
>>>>>>> time in
>>>>>>> trying Notepad++.

>>>>>>> In the end, though, I always seem to come back to the AFL editor
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> all but very large tasks.  To use a carpentry analogy of  
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> that I was fixing today, if I just want to make a notch for the
>>>>>> strike
>>>>>>> plate of a door lockset, I don't need to drag out a precision
>>>>>> router -
>>>>>>> a hammer and chisel will do.

>>>>>>> I imagine that Tomasz has eventual plans move toward a mini -
>>>>>>> integrated dev environment.  He probably wants to keep conrol of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> editor.  In principle, though, I agree that I'd like to see him
>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>> up AB more to things like that.

>>>>>>> BTW, if you really want the AFL syntax XML file for Notepad++,  
>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>> post it, but consider that Notepad++ will have a learning time
>>>>>> investment.

>>>>>>> -- Bruce R



>>>>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Thank you all for the quick an helpful suggestions.  It will  
>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>> me a
>>>>>>>> bit to explore them all.

>>>>>>>> Only using a virtual PC for AmiBroker, and using a Mac for
>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>> else, I was unfamiliar with all the possible good solutions
>>>>>> suggested,
>>>>>>>> and most are free.  I looked at the websites of each suggested
>>>>>>>> product.  Notepad++ is interesting as an open source editor with
>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>> features I have seen requested for the Formula editor.  It would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> interesting to see something like this directly adapted for use
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> AFL (including all the syntax coloring).  Perhaps this has
>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>> been done?

>>>>>>>> It seems that it would be far easier to support this editor as a
>>>>>>>> standard for advanced users than beg TJ to spend valuable
>>>>>> development
>>>>>>>> time adding the same features into the Formula editor.  Since it
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> open source, perhaps TJ or another C++ wizard could just add the
>>>>>>>> specific Formula editor stuff into a custom version of Notepad++
>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>>> visa versa for TJ).

>>>>>>>> Herman you have asked for TJ to open up the formula editor for
>>>>>> add-
>>>>>>>> ons, and add features like syntax folding, etc.  This would be
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> ultimate for add-ons with open source.

>>>>>>>> Ok, I am off to download and try things out for a while.
>>>>>> Suggested
>>>>>>>> programs:

>>>>>>>> Ultraedit
>>>>>>>> Textcrawler
>>>>>>>> TexRep
>>>>>>>> Notepad ++
>>>>>>>> Regular Expressions
>>>>>>>> EditPad Pro
>>>>>>>> Custom JScript

>>>>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>>>>> Dennis


>>>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2009, at 11:46 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Hello,

>>>>>>>>> I have my system broken into about 30 include files now.  Now I
>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>> get around a problem that is one of the reasons I resisted
>>>>>> using many
>>>>>>>>> includes for so long --editing the same content across all
>>>>>> includes.

>>>>>>>>> Let's say that I decide I want to change the name of a variable
>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>>> more descriptive name -- like RibSel to RibSelMenuOpen.  If
>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>> is one file, I just search and replace every one.  However, if
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> locations are spread across some unknown number of my include
>>>>>> files,
>>>>>>>>> how do I manage to do this operation simply?

>>>>>>>>> The task is made harder because the formula editor search
>>>>>> dialog data
>>>>>>>>> does not transfer to another open formula editor file.
>>>>>> Currently I am
>>>>>>>>> finding myself opening each include and pasting the search name
>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>> again, and typing in the changed name again.  Very time
>>>>>> consuming
>>>>>>>>> considering how many variables I change the names of after I  
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> something working.  I make something work with short names then
>>>>>> clean
>>>>>>>>> up the final code with self documenting names when I can think
>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>>> better name.

>>>>>>>>> How do others solve this problem?

>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>> Dennis




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