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Mike, 

I have a chart open and run the backtester for the period of 1/1/07 -
12/31/07 and I do not see a red line plot on the open chart. I get an
entry for ~Signals under Symbols tab list which, opens a series of
dash lines but not a red line on the open chart.

Regards
Richard

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Mike" <sfclimbers@xxx> wrote:
>
> Richard,
> 
> If you display the code in a chart, it should plot the signals for 
> the period backtested (e.g. 1/1/07 - 12/31/07). It is working for me. 
> Do you have a chart open on the code? Did you run the backtest at 
> least once over a period?
> 
> As for number of signals using N-bar stop vs. cross; That's comparing 
> apples to oranges. I believe that if you are holding a position, 
> there will be no further signals generated in later days until the 
> position is liquidated (unless using backtester mode to allow 
> multiple signals per symbol). As such, I believe that it would be 
> false to expect the same number of signals from the two different 
> systems. The portfolio contents would be completely different.
> 
> Basically, you should substitute your own trading strategy in place 
> of the cross provided, then see what the signals look like for your 
> strategy (as opposed to some arbitrary strategy).
> 
> Mike
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "richpach2" <richpach2@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Mike,
> > 
> > Thank you for your answer. This makes it a bit clearer. I used a 
> more
> > primitive method to count signals. I would set max open positions 
> to 2
> > x of the watchlist content (say 200) and set the N-Bar Stop to 1 
> bar.
> > This (I thought) should have given me a max. number of signals.
> > 
> > I tested the AFL you posted with SetOption( "MaxOpenPositions", 
> 200 );
> > It worked OK, but I can not see PlotForeign line after running it in
> > backtester. Is there a trick to plot "~Signals" from composite 
> array?
> > 
> > Also if I set N-Bar Stop =1, I get different results. About twice as
> > many signals with the N-Bar stop set in comparison to "disabled" 
> where
> > sell signal is given by Sell = Cross( slow, fast );
> > 
> > Regards
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Mike" <sfclimbers@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Note that in the code originally posted, the signal position size 
> > > will be set to a tiny value when there are many many signals. You 
> > > would need to correct for that to be at least some minimum size, 
> with 
> > > the realization that it would imply that some signals would go 
> > > unfilled due to lack of resources.
> > > 
> > > Mike
> > > 
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Mike" <sfclimbers@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > Your question is actually a bit of a trick question, since 
> AmiBroker
> > > > will cap the number of signals to be not more than 2 x the 
> maximum
> > > > permitted open positions (as per your AA settings or in code). 
> To 
> > > get
> > > > around that, set the max positions to some large number (e.g. 
> 500).
> > > > 
> > > > That being said, you can count (and even chart) the number of 
> > > signals at
> > > > each bar. Similarly, you can evenly divide your equity among 
> all 
> > > signals
> > > > such that all signals will be taken (up to max permitted).
> > > > 
> > > > Have a look at the following (untested) code for some ideas. 
> Run a
> > > > backtest against it, then look at the resulting plot to see how 
> many
> > > > signals are generated at each bar.
> > > > 
> > > > Mike
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > SetOption( "MaxOpenPositions", 2 );
> > > > 
> > > > fast = MA( Close, 5 );
> > > > slow = MA( Close, 25 );
> > > > 
> > > > Buy = Cross( fast, slow );
> > > > Sell = Cross( slow, fast );
> > > > 
> > > > AddToComposite( 0, "~Signals", "X", atcFlagDefaults |
> > > > atcFlagEnableInPortfolio );
> > > > PlotForeign( "~Signals", "Signals", colorRed, styleLine );
> > > > 
> > > > SetCustomBacktestProc( "" );
> > > > 
> > > > if ( Status( "action" ) == actionPortfolio )
> > > > {
> > > >      maxPositions = GetOption( "MaxOpenPositions" );
> > > >      signals[0] = 0;
> > > > 
> > > >      bo = GetBacktesterObject();
> > > >      bo.PreProcess();
> > > > 
> > > >      for ( bar = 0; bar < BarCount; bar++ )
> > > >      {
> > > >          count = 0;
> > > > 
> > > >          for ( sig = bo.GetFirstSignal( bar ); sig; sig =
> > > > bo.GetNextSignal( bar ) )
> > > >          {
> > > >              if ( sig.IsEntry() )
> > > >              {
> > > >                  count++;  // AmiBroker tracks as many as 2 x
> > > > maxPositions
> > > >              }
> > > >          }
> > > > 
> > > >          signals[bar] = count;  // Preserve signal count for 
> > > charting
> > > >          count = min( count, maxPositions ); // Do not exceed
> > > > maxPositions
> > > > 
> > > >          if ( count > 0 )
> > > >          {
> > > >              size = -100 / count; // Divide evenly among 
> candidates
> > > >          }
> > > >          else
> > > >          {
> > > >              size = -100;  // Prevent divide by zero error.
> > > >          }
> > > > 
> > > >          size = max( size, -5 );   // Max 5% of equity (or 
> whatever 
> > > makes
> > > > sense to you)
> > > > 
> > > >          for ( sig = bo.GetFirstSignal( bar ); sig; sig =
> > > > bo.GetNextSignal( bar ) )
> > > >          {
> > > >              if ( sig.IsEntry() )
> > > >              {
> > > >                  sig.PosSize = size;
> > > >              }
> > > >          }
> > > > 
> > > >          bo.ProcessTradeSignals( bar );
> > > >      }
> > > > 
> > > >      bo.PostProcess();
> > > > 
> > > >      AddToComposite( signals, "~Signals", "X", atcFlagDefaults |
> > > > atcFlagEnableInPortfolio );
> > > > }
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "richpach2" <richpach2@> 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > A portfolio backtester outputs a long list of system metrics 
> but, 
> > > I
> > > > > was not able to find a metric which describes a value of 
> cash / 
> > > system
> > > > > utilization. What I mean by that is, do I have enough cash to 
> > > take all
> > > > > the signals? After all most systems work on the principle 
> that one
> > > > > must take ALL signals. Not some not a few but ALL. I know I 
> can
> > > > > control it by positionscore, positionsize and number of open 
> > > positions
> > > > > as a percentage of portfolio (cash). I want to be able to use 
> my 
> > > cash
> > > > > in most efficient way by matching a number of signals the 
> system
> > > > > generates on the portfolio with number of available 
> positions. At
> > > > > least, I want to know how many signals are generated for the 
> given
> > > > > period in test and compare it to total number of trades taken 
> > > during
> > > > > the test period.
> > > > > I can see that, there are visual (Green bars) on the equity 
> > > display
> > > > > that show available cash but I can not see anything in the 
> > > backtester
> > > > > which will measure number of signals compared a number of 
> > > positions.
> > > > > Portfolio backtester interface reference guide shows that one 
> can 
> > > use
> > > > > "cash" property in FindSignal and FindOpenPositions but, I do 
> not 
> > > know
> > > > > how to construct my metric using these methods.
> > > > > Can someone please comment on this question or point me to the
> > > > > examples on how to use custom methods in backtester?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Richard
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



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