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My wife went Christmas shopping so I took the opportunity to 'Wiki'
for Python after I posted.
Interesting story.
The founder of Python, Guido van Rossum, is known in the Python
community, as the Benevolent Dictator for Life (BDFL):-)
Wiki gave some examples of users, from small commericals up to NASA,
Google and Yahoo (yikes, the corporates are plundering open source!)
I read a little further on licenses also ... it seems that the only
way for developers to get paid, have open source code and prevent
users locking up the intellectual development, via copyrignt, would
be via the licensing agreement.
I seem to recall AB is EULA?
BTW I see that Wiki is calling for donations and promises are up to
USD$3M +
Thanks for your reply .... of course freedom of individual choice was
the most important point all along.
Bruce asked for comments and suggested 'protection'.
I vote for a version of payed license/viewable source/copyleft on the
AFL ..... nothing against protection if it fits into that model.
Oh well, back to the real world ;-)
"From the unreal lead me to the real".
Bhagavadgita.
brian_z
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx>
wrote:
>
>
> > Is anyone,anywhere, claiming copyright for the source code of a
> > program written using Python?
>
> Sure there is. The same way as there are copyrighted works using
> English. The language is only the medium to express thoughts/ideas.
> It does not matter if platform is open source or not. It does not
> depend if you write your essey in OpenOffice or MS Word.
> It does not matter if you write in AFL or Python.
> It is sole author decision whenever he/she decides to put his/her
> work into public domain or not and choice of the language
> is irrelevant.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "brian_z111" <brian_z111@xxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:36 AM
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: COPYRIGHT
>
>
> >> I think that is what the Patent commissioner said well over 100
> >>years
> >> ago. That everything has already been invented.
> >
> > I am not saying that everything has been invented, only that all
> > trading ideas are known. TA is mainly all based on 5 data points
> > (OHLCV) and one of them I have no use for.
> >
> > We have terabytes, going back decades, written on the
permutations.
> >
> >> Every trading system that is out there is out there. Of course
> >>the
> >> new innovative ones that nobody has thought of yet are not out
> >>there.
> >
> > It wasn't a slip of the tounge ... I did say, intentionally, that
all
> > trading ideas are known, but not to all! It is only the
expression of
> > these ideas that varies. New technology, instruments etc can
> > facilitate this e.g. AT based on enhanced computing capacities,
> > electronic exchanges, SSF etc
> >
> > [I would have to go into the philosophy of ideation, to explain
that
> > point, but I doubt if anyone in the forum would appreciate the
> > discussion :-)
> >
> >> But I think the only practical protection for a great trading
> >>system
> >> is secrecy, so you may never know about it.
> >
> > You posted some good points on this topic (across the threads).
> >
> > It took a while for the distinction between patent/copyright and
also
> > the idea of 'keepinjt secrets' to sink in ... thanks ;-)
> >
> > Progster:
> >
> > Yes, that was a Momentary Lapse Of Reason (PinkFloyd) .... a
peak
> > experience that we can sustain if we have the strength to hold to
> > the 'flight of fantasy' (the dog is packing his bags again!).
> >
> > Continuing with the fiction .... the AB compiler and AFL could
> > actually be open source but Tomasz could still sell AB could he
not
> > (I would still be a customer!) i.e. programs written using Python
are
> > for sale?
> >
> > Is anyone,anywhere, claiming copyright for the source code of a
> > program written using Python?
> >
> >
> > brian_z
> >
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Brian,
> >>
> >> I think that is what the Patent commissioner said well over 100
> > years
> >> ago. That everything has already been invented.
> >>
> >> Every trading system that is out there is out there. Of course
> > the
> >> new innovative ones that nobody has thought of yet are not out
> > there.
> >> Once they are invented, you will say, that it is obvious and
> > should
> >> not be patentable. If it is not obvious to you today, then
don't
> >> claim it is obvious later after it is known to you. It is only
a
> >> matter of time until this takes place.
> >>
> >> But I think the only practical protection for a great trading
> > system
> >> is secrecy, so you may never know about it.
> >>
> >> ~Dennis
> >>
> >> On Dec 20, 2008, at 5:05 PM, brian_z111 wrote:
> >>
> >> > From my perspective I find it hard to imagine how anyone could
> > claim
> >> > to have an original trading idea .... every possible one seems
to
> >> > be 'out there' already.
> >>
> >
> >
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