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Re: [amibroker] Re: Why are there so few?



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Brian,

I understand where you are coming from.  Depending on the message and  
the model, giving away something of value to build a support base is a  
time honored marketing method.

However, if you own the golden goose and use the golden eggs to pay  
the bills only a fool would give that away prematurely.  Perhaps after  
you have replaced it with the platinum goose...

BR,
Dennis


On Dec 3, 2008, at 7:08 PM, brian_z111 wrote:

> I'm just speaking from the heart.
>
> Haven't thought it through for implementation ... don't have any
> plans to go commercial with a trading site.
>
> The IT age is certainly throwing up some new ethical issues regarding
> copyright etc.
>
> Personally I am confirmed New Age and in sync with everything it
> brings.
>
> My teacher is still alive (over 80) and not doing well
> commercially ... he spent decades stumping the planet and flogging
> books/tapes etc to put his food on the table..... doesn't eat all
> that well either, especially now that he is older.
>
> He was very old world in his business practices and very nervous
> about people copying his work (hence his reluctance to go into
> eMedia).... I thought that limited his capacity to do what he wanted
> to do.
>
> If I started a site and 100,000 people visited, stole my ebook and
> gave a copy to 5 people I would be very happy ... that is free
> advertising that old model businesses have to pay for .... I am sure
> I could manage to sell something to a fan base of 500,000 ... what's
> more 'they' understand that and at some point 'they' will be happy to
> hand over some shekels ... when they are good and ready.
>
> I won't be locking up my intellectual property.... I want it to get
> out and I want others to use and abuse it.
>
> I don't have any fear that I won't have food on the table or a bed to
> sleep in.
>
> Fear and selfishness is the basis of introverted business methods.
>
> brian_z111 *:-)
>
>
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Brian,
>>
>> That is not how it works.
>>
>> You can not copyright methods.  You can however patent methods as
> long
>> as you disclose them completely to the public and they are unique
> and
>> work.   Yea, try to keep someone from using your own publicly
>> disclosed patented ideas from out trading you.  How would you even
>> know.  Totally unworkable except to keep a company from including
> your
>> patented code in their commercial product.
>>
>> A copyright would keep a magazine or a person from selling or
> giving
>> away the code that embodies your trading ideas.  But once again,
> once
>> the cat is out of the bag too bad for you.  You edge is trashed.
>>
>> The only practical way you can share your trading methods on a
> limited
>> basis (for fun or profit) is to have a way to share the results
>> without sharing the methods.  This is the trade secret way.
>>
>> You have two choices.
>>
>> 1. Stream the results to who you want (which does not help AB).
> This
>> puts a burden on you and may be impractical for use.
>>
>> 2. Hide the code from view and distribute it to those you want to
> have
>> it (which does help AB sales if a new customer).
>>
>> I have things I will not distribute because they are particular to
> my
>> trading edge which would be lost if duplicated by many.  I might
> be
>> willing to distribute them to a few if I could keep the methods
>> secret.  So others lose out, because I have no easy way to do that.
>>
>> I freely distribute generic code I write that helps others use
>> Amibroker to implement their own trading ideas.
>>
>> If I were to charge for my trading platform, I would certainly
> want
>> the code protected to protect my ideas from being pirated and to
> make
>> sure the code did not get modified if I am responsible to maintain
> it.
>>
>> The motivation for  encrypting AFL programs are no different than
>> Tomasz's motivation for not making the source code for AB freely
>> available to every customer.  In some cases, the value of an AFL
>> system may be much larger than the total value of AB itself.
>>
>> BR,
>> Dennis
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2008, at 4:14 PM, brian_z111 wrote:
>>
>>> Trading knowledge is another matter ... I would sell my trading
>>> ideas, if it suited me, and I would attempt to copyright the
> methods
>>> (once again that would be difficult to do) but the code I use to
>>> express, or implement those ideas can't and/or shouldn't be
>>> copyrighted IMO.
>>>
>>
>
>
>
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