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Thank you for your short story ... it's an honour to read it.

It is incredible to be able to talk with a Japanese lady ... 
something that would not be possible in the real world, I think.

Even more incredible that our humanity transcends gender and culture 
(a cliche that is also a truth!)

> But the Christians do seem to have one point solidly
> nailed (to the cross?): the utter fallibility of human nature.

Not so fast there.

Redemption, which, by the way, is not exclusively a Christian 
teaching, is real but not for the masses.


> My book?  Somehow, I just can't organize (organise?) large projects
> like that.

I don't think you organize a book .... works of art are wrought.

> If I ever write anything, it might be about the bittersweet life of
> the Japanese village.

Please do consider! (the muses told me to ask you about writing ... 
of course they are not always right ... sometimes they are playful or 
just make you stop and think or they have some other purpose in mind).

> with the village.  Maybe that's why I prefer to live in a village of
> about 30,000,000.  That, and the fact that I can't get good Italian
> or (really, any) Mexican food down there, or French or German bread.

A Japanese lady who loves to eat Mexican ..... when your book is made 
into a movie they will have to write that part out.

brian_z

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Yuki Taga <yukitaga@xxx> wrote:
>
> b> You are talking about some radical solutions.
> 
> Don't get me started.
> 
> I might end up rambling about how weird it is to have an economic
> system seemingly dependent on infinite (both population and 
economic)
> growth lacquered onto an obviously finite world.
> 
> Then we'd *really* be in trouble, and you would instantly grok the
> limits of my imagination.  ^_^
> 
> Not to belabor a point, but yes, the world is full of hardworking,
> talented folk.  But the Christians do seem to have one point solidly
> nailed (to the cross?): the utter fallibility of human nature.  
Sorry
> for the bad pun; sometimes I just can't resist.
> 
> Your grammatical lapses?  Shirley, you jest!
> 
> My book?  Somehow, I just can't organize (organise?) large projects
> like that.  It's a wonder that I made it through graduate school,
> especially in the day before word processors.  (Do today's kids have
> any idea what it's like to type hundreds of pages on a manual
> typewriter?) Besides, I don't really have that much to say other 
than
> the occasional, hopefully pithy, barb.  (I sometimes think about the
> organizational ability necessary to conceive and maintain Amibroker,
> and I am humbled by the mere thought of it.)
> 
> I did "ohaka mairi" this week.  This is the annual visit to the
> family grave -- the place where I will eventually end up.  Ours is 
in
> Kumamoto prefecture (Kyushu), on a nice little hill absolutely
> covered with mikan trees overlooking the Ariake Sea (which for some
> reason we call a sea, but is actually no more than a rather large
> bay).  For reasons unknown, I got to thinking about how, someday,
> someone is probably going to discover this little building (think of
> a mini mausoleum) in some archeological dig.  Whatever are they 
going
> to imagine?
> 
> My relatives down there work their butts off.  I mean seriously.
> They grow mikans, and strawberries.  The former has had the bottom
> drop out of the market, because Japanese tastes have changed, and 
who
> can be bothered to peel a mikan when they can just tear the wrapper
> off of some ice cream bar?  The latter is quite profitable, but
> requires a huge vinyl house (biniiru housu in Japanese, a plastic
> greenhouse), and backbreaking labor.  The mikans grow on terraced
> mountainsides, the strawberries in hothouses on the floodplain 
below.
> And when I look at the work that went into those terraced
> mountainsides, I am indeed humbled.  A lot of damaged lumbar
> vertebrae, I suspect.  (This is all on my mother's side; my father's
> family is from the "big city" of Kumamoto, and a long line of MDs.)
> 
> I'm trying to convince them to elevate the strawberries.  It would 
be
> an immense amount of work, but only once.  Then you wouldn't have to
> bend over all the time to tend and harvest, and even more, since 
they
> have to heat that space in the winter at night, I think heating 
costs
> would go down, because the overnight winter temperature in the vinyl
> house at an elevation of 1 meter or so must be cheaper to maintain
> than the temperature on the "floor".  My goodness do they ever work
> harder than I do.  But maybe I have managerial talent, as long as 
the
> project is not too complex.  ^_^ The strawberry flowers have just
> blossomed.  The fruit will come in the spring.
> 
> If I ever write anything, it might be about the bittersweet life of
> the Japanese village.  There is something absolutely wonderful about
> multi-generational households.  But there is also an absolute 
tyranny
> in the village, too.  Everyone knows everyone, and everyone knows 
who
> "the boss" is, and if you cross the boss (familial or otherwise), 
you
> might as well jump off a cliff.  I have a real love-hate 
relationship
> with the village.  Maybe that's why I prefer to live in a village of
> about 30,000,000.  That, and the fact that I can't get good Italian
> or (really, any) Mexican food down there, or French or German bread.
> (But Kumamoto is famous for raw horse meat -- delicious, called
> basashi -- which my relatives ship via refrigerated parcel post to
> me every winter.  You dip it into a mix of soy sauce and garlic, 
just
> wonderful with a glass or two of daiginjo.)
> 
> I did some bottom fishing today just after the open.  We'll see how
> it goes on Tuesday when we reopen.  The market has a little bit of
> that hopeless feeling that might signal a tradable rally.  Either
> that, or we go into a death spiral.  I didn't bet the fruit farm.
> ^_^
> 
> Yuki
> 
> Friday, November 21, 2008, 3:13:32 PM, you wrote:
> 
> b> You are talking about some radical solutions.
> 
> b> Unfortunately radical solutions aren't adopted by the masses 
until it
> b> is almost too late, if at all.... it takes visionary leadership 
to 
> b> force it upon them at an appropriate time.
> 
> >> There should be stiff financial penalties for
> >> the well-heeled manager(s) who comes cup-in-hand, warning of dire
> >> societal consequences should we all refuse to "donate".
> 
> b> In Australia it is called 'the sack'.... they are appointed by 
the 
> b> board so presumably there's a whole bunch of em.
> 
> b> We can't generalise too much though ... there are always a % of 
> b> talented and hardworking people in any field, even politics and 
> b> business ..... according to my theories 10% of them are 
brilliant but
> b> they can be hard to find.... they are often self- effacing, 
unless 
> b> forced into revealing their hand.
> 
> >> I think we (worldwide capitalists with an interest in corporate
> >> management) ... etc
> 
> b> Actually I am not a business person or a politician.
> 
> b> I do know how hard it is to be an outsider (radical thinker), 
> b> anywhere, let alone as a female in Japan.
> 
> b> BTW I apologise for my occasional grammatical lapses ... I do 
try to 
> b> correct them to the best of my ability ... having trouble with 
tenses
> b> and other things ... I will need a coach, or a ghost writer, for 
my 
> b> book.
> 
> b> Are you going to write a book?
> 
> b> You have a good foundation for it ... trained journalist ... 
> b> universal woman living in a old world ---> new world culture 
(very 
> b> intriguing!)
> 
> 
> b> brian_z
> 
> 
> 
> b> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Yuki Taga <yukitaga@> wrote:
> >>
> >> b> If the vision was there the salaries wouldn't offend in the 
> b> least.
> >> 
> >> Absolutely.  What offends the most is that these guys and their 
ilk
> >> have systematically put short-term numbers ahead of long-term
> >> viability, and they have rigged their own pay schemes so that 
they
> >> are rewarded immensely for doing so.  They profit from short-term
> >> thinking, even when such thinking carries heavy long-term
> >> consequences.
> >> 
> >> I think we (worldwide capitalists with an interest in corporate
> >> management) need to consider taxation regimes (or something) that
> >> make that kind of behavior impossible.  Great salaries and great
> >> bonuses are fine for great performance.  But performance metrics 
> b> that
> >> look great for a quarter, or four quarters or so, often shine at 
the
> >> distinct expense of the longer term.  So we need to think about
> >> making these rewards available only after time frames that 
juxtapose
> >> with those longer term interests.
> >> 
> >> How to do that in a world fragmented into competing states is 
> b> another
> >> whole kettle of sakana.
> >> 
> >> But there is something inherently unstable about a situation in 
> b> which
> >> the management of companies way too big to fail can reward 
> b> themselves
> >> for putting those companies into situations where the state has 
to
> >> come to the rescue.  There should be stiff financial penalties 
for
> >> the well-heeled manager(s) who comes cup-in-hand, warning of dire
> >> societal consequences should we all refuse to "donate".
> >> 
> >> We've all heard of slash-and-burn agriculture, of course.
> >> Slash-and-burn corporate management is just as bad.
> >> 
> >> Yuki
> >> 
> >> Friday, November 21, 2008, 7:46:29 AM, you wrote:
> >> 
> >> b> Political theater is performed at a much more sophisticated 
> b> level in 
> >> b> the USA than anywhere else, although not with the finality of 
> b> some 
> >> b> less democratic states.... something to do with all of the TV 
> b> cameras.
> >> 
> >> b> The auto bailout is an interesting and drama packed sub-plot 
to 
> b> the 
> >> b> long running financial soap opera.
> >> 
> >> b> Their lack of contrition, and the tounge in check banter, 
> b> indicates 
> >> b> that it is accepted that they have not committed a crime.
> >> 
> >> b> It fails to shock .... it is all a symptom of where we are 
> >> b> collectively.
> >> 
> >> b> I see their negative campaign, drumming up the case for 
a 'loan' 
> >> b> (only good until next March) but I don't see anything about 
> b> their 
> >> b> vision for the future.... their plans as to when, where, why 
and 
> b> how 
> >> b> the 'big three' are going to emerge into the bright lights of 
> b> the 
> >> b> brave new world.
> >> 
> >> b> If the vision was there the salaries wouldn't offend in the 
> b> least.
> >> 
> >> b> Australian auto makers have been routinely queing for social 
> b> security
> >> b> (restructuring loans) as long as I can remember.... there 
isn't 
> b> a day
> >> b> in my adult life when that wasn't the norm.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> b> A personal note -
> >> 
> >> b> Ignorance (Mumyo) is pervasive .... one can not hope to 
fathom 
> b> it or 
> >> b> stand against it .... we can't catch it in our fishing nets 
and 
> >> b> discard it, as if we are clearing our waterways of a feral 
> >> b> fish .....cut off your slice of the cake and oppose that 
smaller 
> >> b> portion and have no concern for the rest.
> >> 
> >> b> brian_z
> >> 
> >> b> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Yuki Taga <yukitaga@> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> From the Washington Post:
> >> >> 
> >> >> ---
> >> >> 
> >> >> So it was hard to feel sorry for the executives when Rep.  
Peter
> >> >> Roskam (R-Ill.), late in the hearing, reminded them again 
> b> that "the
> >> >> symbolism of the private jet is difficult," and mischievously 
> b> asked
> >> >> the witnesses whether, in another symbolic gesture, they 
would be
> >> >> willing to work for $1 a year, as Nardelli has offered to do.
> >> >> 
> >> >> "I don't have a position on that today," demurred Wagoner 
(2007 
> >> b> total
> >> >> compensation: $15.7 million).
> >> >> 
> >> >> "I understand the intent, but I think where we are is okay," 
said
> >> >> Mulally ($21.7 million).
> >> >> 
> >> >> "I'm asking about you," Roskam pressed.
> >> >> 
> >> >> "I think I'm okay where I am," Mulally said.
> >> >> 
> >> >> And don't even think about asking him to fly commercial.
> >> >> 
> >> >> ---
> >> >> 
> >> >> For those of you living in caves, the "Big Three" auto execs 
each
> >> >> took a single private jet to Washington from Detroit (24 
> b> commercial
> >> >> flights per day) to beg for money.  (The Chrysler guy -- 
> b> Nardelli --
> >> >> did actually offer to work for 1 dollar next year.)
> >> >> 
> >> >> The guillotine seems too "kibishii".  But stocks (the 
physical 
> >> b> kind ,
> >> >> not the financial kind) seem more appropriate than any 
Japanese
> >> >> remedy.  I'm stocking up on rotten vegetables, just in case.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Yuki
> >> >>
> >>
>



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