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Graham,
>> Because you have volatility=true
That "true" parameter is actually "exitAtStop", which should be either
0, 1, or 2 (True will give 1). Volatility is the fifth parameter,
which defaults to False.
At least that's what it says in the Help.
Regards,
GP
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Graham <kavemanperth@xxx> wrote:
>
> Because you have volatility=true and zero bar trade entry delays
then stop is
>
> SetTradeDelays(0,0,0,0);
> StopLevel = Param("trailing stop %", 1.3, 0.1, 10, 0.1 );
> Short = Cover = 0;
> Buy = Cross( MACD(), Signal() );
> Sell = 0;
> ApplyStop( stopTypeTrailing, stopModePercent, StopLevel, True );
> Equity( 1, 0 );
> LongStop = highestsince( buy, H ) - H*stopline/100;
> inLongTrade = Flip(Buy,Sell);
> Plot( Close,"Price",colorWhite,styleCandle);
> plot( iif(inLongTrade , LongStop , null ), "Stop Line", colorred,
styleline ) ;
> PlotShapes(Buy*shapeUpArrow,colorBrightGreen,0,Low, -12);
> PlotShapes((Sell>0)*shapeDownArrow,colorRed,0,High, -12);
>
>
> --
> Cheers
> Graham Kav
> AFL Writing Service
> http://www.aflwriting.com
>
>
>
> 2008/10/6 Grover Yowell <gyowell1@xxx>:
> > GP,
> >
> >
> >
> > I took your comments to heart and started looking at resolving the
> > discrepancies. Great comments on your part, but I was unable to get
> > anything resolved after spending several hours on the problem.
Too many
> > variables to consider with my rather limited programming skills.
> >
> >
> >
> > So I decided to try a different approach, abandon the max loss
problems,
> > and instead confirm that TJ's original code on the trailing stop
was doing
> > what was intended. Well, I got some surprising results. Tj's
code, at
> > least in my testing is not giving consistent results between the loop
> > version and the apply stop version, and furthermore there are
discrepancies
> > between the two versions posted and the backtest results.
> >
> >
> >
> > Again, his code is at this address:
> >
> > o
> >
www.amibroker.com/kb/2007/03/24/how-to-plot-a-trailing-stop-in-the-price-chart
> >
> > I used Tj's code in a 1 minute database using 3 min bars on
10/3/2008 and
> > tested it on RIMM. I used TJ's parameter values and set the
trails top to
> > 1.3%. The only modifications I made to the code were display
items to
> > present the data so that I could see what is going on. Oh, I did
make one
> > other change, changed Sell[i] = 1; to Sell[i] =4; in the
TrailStopLoop code
> > si that the sell by the trail stop would show properly in the
backtest.
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is my TrailApplyStop code:
> >
> > SetChartOptions( 0, chartShowArrows | chartShowDates );
> >
> > SetOption( "FuturesMode", False );
> >
> > SetOption( "InitialEquity", 10000 );
> >
> > SetOption( "MinShares", 1 );
> >
> > SetOption( "allowpositionshrinking", True );
> >
> > SetOption( "priceboundchecking", True );
> >
> > SetOption( "commissionMode", 2 );
> >
> > SetOption( "commissionAmount", 1 );
> >
> > RoundLotSize = 100;
> >
> > StopLevel = Param("trailing stop %", 1.3, 0.1, 10, 0.1 );
> >
> >
> >
> > SetTradeDelays(0,0,0,0);
> >
> > Short = Cover = 0;
> >
> > Buy = Cross( MACD(), Signal() );
> >
> > Sell = 0;
> >
> > ApplyStop( stopTypeTrailing, stopModePercent, StopLevel, True );
> >
> >
> >
> > Equity( 1, 0 ); // evaluate stops, all quotes
> >
> > e = Equity(1,0);
> >
> > InTradelong = Flip( Buy, Sell );
> >
> > intradeshort = Flip(Short,Cover);
> >
> > SetOption("EveryBarNullCheck", True );
> >
> > stopline = IIf( InTradelong, HighestSince( Buy, High ) * ( 1 - 0.01 *
> > StopLevel ), Null );
> >
> >
> >
> > PlotShapes(Buy*shapeUpArrow,colorBrightGreen,0,Low);
> >
> > PlotShapes(Sell*shapeDownArrow,colorRed,0,High);
> >
> > Plot( 2, /* defines the height of the ribbon in percent of pane width
> >
> > */"ribbon",
> >
> > IIf( intradelong, colorBrightGreen, IIf( intradeshort, colorRed,
colorYellow
> > )), /* choose color */
> >
> > styleOwnScale|styleArea|styleNoLabel, -0.5, 100 );
> >
> >
> >
> > SetBarFillColor( IIf( C > O, colorBrightGreen, colorRed ) );
> >
> >
> >
> > Plot( Close,"Price",colorWhite,styleCandle);
> >
> > Plot( stopline, "trailing stop line", colorRed );
> >
> > Title = _DEFAULT_NAME() + StrFormat("{{NAME}} -
> > {{INTERVAL}} {{DATE}} Open %g, Hi %g, Lo %g, Close %g ", O, H, L,
C ) ;
> >
> > ///////////////////////////////////////////////End of
TrailApplyStop Code//
> > Begin TrailStopLoop Code///////////////////////////////////////
> >
> > SetChartOptions( 0, chartShowArrows | chartShowDates );
> >
> > SetOption( "FuturesMode", False );
> >
> > SetOption( "InitialEquity", 10000 );
> >
> > SetOption( "MinShares", 1 );
> >
> > SetOption( "allowpositionshrinking", True );
> >
> > SetOption( "priceboundchecking", True );
> >
> > SetOption( "commissionMode", 2 );
> >
> > SetOption( "commissionAmount", 1 );
> >
> > RoundLotSize = 100;
> >
> > StopLevel = 1 - Param("trailing stop %", 1.3, 0.1, 10, 0.1)/100;
> >
> > Short = Cover = 0;
> >
> >
> >
> > Buy = Cross( MACD(), Signal() );
> >
> > Sell = 0;
> >
> > trailARRAY = Null;
> >
> > trailstop = 0;
> >
> >
> >
> > for( i = 1; i < BarCount; i++ )
> >
> > {
> >
> >
> >
> > if( trailstop == 0 AND Buy[ i ] )
> >
> > {
> >
> > trailstop = High[ i ] * stoplevel;
> >
> > }
> >
> > else Buy[ i ] = 0; // remove excess buy signals
> >
> >
> >
> > if( trailstop > 0 AND Low[ i ] < trailstop )
> >
> > {
> >
> > Sell[ i ] = 4;
> >
> > SellPrice[ i ] = trailstop;
> >
> > trailstop = 0;
> >
> > }
> >
> > if( trailstop > 0 )
> >
> > {
> >
> > trailstop = Max( High[ i ] * stoplevel, trailstop );
> >
> > trailARRAY[ i ] = trailstop;
> >
> > }
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > }
> >
> > InTradelong = Flip( Buy, Sell );
> >
> > intradeshort = Flip(Short,Cover);
> >
> > Plot( 2, /* defines the height of the ribbon in percent of pane width
> >
> > */"ribbon",
> >
> > IIf( intradelong, colorBrightGreen, IIf( intradeshort, colorRed,
colorYellow
> > )), /* choose color */
> >
> > styleOwnScale|styleArea|styleNoLabel, -0.5, 100 );
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PlotShapes(Buy*shapeUpArrow,colorBrightGreen,0,Low);
> >
> > PlotShapes(Sell*shapeDownArrow,colorRed,0,High);
> >
> > SetBarFillColor( IIf( C > O, colorBrightGreen, colorRed ) );
> >
> >
> >
> > Plot( Close,"Price",colorWhite,styleCandle);
> >
> > Plot( trailARRAY,"trailing stop level", colorRed );
> >
> > Title = _DEFAULT_NAME() + StrFormat("{{NAME}} -
> > {{INTERVAL}} {{DATE}} Open %g, Hi %g, Lo %g, Close %g ", O, H, L,
C );
> >
> > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////End of
TrailStopLoop
> > Code////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >
> >
> >
> > I will summarize the results:
> >
> > TrailApplyStop
> > TrailStopLoop
BackTest
> > (both Systems)
> >
> > Entry Exit
> > Entry Exit
> > Entry Exit
> >
> > 7:14 8:29
> > None None
> > 7:14 8:59
> >
> > 9:38 10:14
> > 9:38 10:14
> > None None
> >
> > 11:11 11:20
> > 11:11 11:20
> > 11:11 11:23
> >
> > 11:53 12:11
> > 11:53 12:11
> > 11:53 12:11
> >
> >
> >
> > Note that the TrailStopLoop code did not show the 7:14AM trade
that the
> > TrailApplyStop code showed and there is a discrepancy on the exit
time of
> > the backtest. Also the backtest did not show the 9:38 AM trade.
> >
> >
> >
> > When I look at the Code, it is not at all obvious what the problem
is. It
> > would seem that each version should be consistent with one
another, and that
> > both should be consistent with the backtest results.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any ideas? I am just not proficient enough to analyze what is
happening
> > here.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> >
> >
> > Grover
> >
> >
> >
> > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf
> > Of gp_sydney
> > Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 2:12 AM
> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: How to plot a maximum loss stop line
> >
> >
> >
> > Grover,
> >
> > Sorry, I don't get attachments as I only view messages on the web
> > where attachments aren't saved.
> >
> > However, on doing as you suggested with GE, but changing the Buy/Short
> > conditions of the ApplyStop version to be the same as the loop version
> > (ie. MA crossover rather than MACD signal crossover), I noticed the
> > following:
> >
> > - Your loop stop uses close as the entry price and high or low as the
> > stop price. I think ApplyStop uses your trade price settings
> > programmed in the AA settings (although I've never really experimented
> > with ApplyStop to be sure what it's using). Consequently, if they are
> > not set to sell on low and cover on high, there will be some
difference.
> >
> > - Your loop code can display signals for concurrent long and short
> > trades, whereas ApplyStop with Equity(1) can't (in reality you
> > wouldn't have both, as the second would be a sell/cover of the first
> > rather than a new position, but I've never checked what happens if you
> > have a short signal while you're already long without a corresponding
> > sell). The ApplyStop version doesn't show any short trades because the
> > whole period is mostly in long trades and all short signals are within
> > open long trades (I only have a limited amount of data for GE though).
> > Remember, when you use Equity(1), it leaves your signal arrays showing
> > the actual trades that would be taken, removing all signals that
> > wouldn't be taken. You can't have an open long and short trade in the
> > same stock at the same time.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Regards,
> > GP
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Grover Yowell" <gyowell1@> wrote:
> >>
> >> GP, I will try to get on the same sheet of music with you.
> >>
> >> I went to the daily database that ships with AB, and pulled up GE.
> > Put in
> >> ticksize = .01 in the window brought up by the little "I" icon.
Then I
> >> changed the parameter values for stop level ticks to range up to 200
> > ticks
> >> which would be 200 X .01 = $2.00 of price change for GE. Then I
put the
> >> ApplyStop version in the upper pane and the loop version in the
> > lower pane
> >> and set the stoplevel ticks to 200 for each pane. Then I exported
> > the image
> >> to MaxLoss.png which is attached. Then what I see is no stop levels
> > on the
> >> Applystop version in the top pane and two stop levels with the
two short
> >> signals for the loop version in the lower pane. Checking the price
> > shown
> >> for the stop levels in the lower pane, they check out exactly at
> > $2.00 above
> >> the short price.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Next I reduced the stoplevel ticks on the upper pane until I had
> > stop levels
> >> showing. This was at 70 ticks, or $0.70 stop loss. No stop levels
were
> >> showing until I reached 70 ticks on the upper pane. But on the
> > lower pane,
> >> the stop level moved smoothly from it's location at 200 ticks
down to 70
> >> ticks. I have attached the png file for this image as
> >> MaxLossStopTicks70.png.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Conclusions:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I would think that the two versions should give similar results.
> >>
> >> Something is different using the ApplyStop version.
> >>
> >> I don't know for sure that my loop version is correct, but it
works more
> >> like I expect it to work.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks again for your help!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Grover
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf
> >> Of gp_sydney
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 4:24 PM
> >> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: How to plot a maximum loss stop line
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Grover,
> >>
> >> I'm not familiar with those futures. What's the current price?
> >>
> >> And what do you see when it is not working? Is there no sell signal,
> >> no stop line, a stop line with an incorrect value?
> >>
> >> Perhaps give an example of one bar where it's not working, providing
> >> the OHLC values and the value of the stop line at that bar, the entry
> >> price, and the value of maxlossticks.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> GP
> >>
> >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> >> "Grover Yowell" <gyowell1@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi GP,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the reply.
> >> >
> >> > The Ticksize is set to 0.25 since I am using the ESZ8-GLOBEX-FUT
> >> futures
> >> > for quotes.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What I am finding is that the max loss stop works over a very
> >> limited range
> >> > of values of max loss, say 1 - 5 ticks.,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > To understand what is going on, I have also taken TJ's code
> >> >
> >> > for the loop version of the trailing stop referenced in the kb
> >> article, and
> >> > adapted it to do a loop version maxloss stop both long and short.
> >> > Hopefully I don't have any errors in that code. And I have used
> >> the loop
> >> > version to compare with the this other version which we can
call the
> >> > ApplyStop version. The loop version works smoothly over the whole
> >> range of
> >> > values of max loss while the ApplyStop version works only over
a small
> >> > limited range. Here is the code for the loop version. For my
> >> comparison, I
> >> > changed the code in my earlier post to use identical buy/sell
rules.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > My objective is to have a max loss stop function which will provide
> >> a signal
> >> > as an indicator as opposed to the backtester. If I can confirm that
> >> my loop
> >> > version is doing the job, I will go with it instead of the
ApplyStop
> >> > version.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Again, thanks for your help. I would welcome any comments on
the code
> >> > below.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Grover Yowell
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ///////////////////////////////////////////Loop Code
> >> > begins///////////////////////////////
> >> >
> >> > Buy = Cross( MA( C, 10 ), MA( C, 20 ) );
> >> >
> >> > Short = Cross( MA( C, 20 ), MA( C, 10 ) );
> >> >
> >> > Sell = 0;
> >> >
> >> > Cover = 0;
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > maxlossticks = Param( "MaxLossTicks", 5, 0, 20, 1 );
> >> >
> >> > maxlosspoints = maxlossticks * TickSize;
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > MaxlossbuyARRAY = Null;
> >> >
> >> > MaxlossshortARRAY = Null;
> >> >
> >> > priceatbuy = 0;
> >> >
> >> > priceatshort = 0;
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > for ( i = 1; i < BarCount; i++ )
> >> >
> >> > {
> >> >
> >> > //if( traillongstop == 0 AND Buy[ i ] )
> >> >
> >> > if ( priceatbuy == 0 AND Buy[i] ) //buy signal and not intrade
> >> >
> >> > {
> >> >
> >> > //traillongstop = High[ i ] - trailpoints;
> >> >
> >> > priceatbuy = Close[i]; //take the
> >> > trade
> >> >
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> > else
> >> >
> >> > Buy[ i ] = 0; // remove excess buy signals
> >> >
> >> > if ( priceatbuy > 0 ) //we are
> >> intrade long
> >> >
> >> > {
> >> >
> >> > maxlossbuyARRAY[i] = priceatbuy - Maxlosspoints;
> >> >
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> > if ( priceatbuy > 0 AND Low[i] < priceatbuy - Maxlosspoints )
> >> //trade
> >> > closed out
> >> >
> >> > {
> >> >
> >> > Sell[ i ] = 1;
> >> >
> >> > SellPrice[ i ] = Close[i];
> >> >
> >> > priceatbuy = 0;
> >> >
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > //short
> >> >
> >> > if ( priceatshort == 0 AND Short[ i ] )
> >> >
> >> > {
> >> >
> >> > priceatshort = Close[i];
> >> >
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> > else
> >> >
> >> > Short[ i ] = 0; // remove excess short signals
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > if ( priceatshort > 0 )
> >> >
> >> > {
> >> >
> >> > maxlossshortARRAY[i] = priceatshort + Maxlosspoints;
> >> >
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > if ( priceatshort > 0 AND High[i] > priceatshort + Maxlosspoints )
> >> > //trade closed out
> >> >
> >> > {
> >> >
> >> > Cover[ i ] = 2;
> >> >
> >> > CoverPrice[ i ] = Close[i];
> >> >
> >> > priceatshort = 0;
> >> >
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> > PlotShapes( Buy*shapeUpArrow, colorBrightGreen, 0, Low );
> >> >
> >> > PlotShapes( Sell*shapeHollowDownArrow, colorRed, 0, High );
> >> >
> >> > PlotShapes( Short*shapeDownArrow, colorRed, 0, H );
> >> >
> >> > PlotShapes( Cover*shapeHollowUpArrow, colorBrightGreen, 0, L );
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > SetBarFillColor( IIf( C > O, colorBrightGreen, colorRed ) );
> >> >
> >> > Plot( Close, "Price", colorWhite, styleCandle );
> >> >
> >> > Plot( maxlossbuyARRAY, "maxlossbuyArray", colorBrightGreen );
> >> >
> >> > Plot( maxlossShortARRAY, "maxlossShortARRAY", colorRed );
> >> >
> >> > Plot( MA( C, 10 ), "MA fast", colorBrightGreen );
> >> >
> >> > Plot( MA( C, 20 ), "MA slow", colorRed );
> >> >
> >> > InTradelong = Flip( Buy, Sell );
> >> >
> >> > InTradeshort = Flip( Short, Cover );
> >> >
> >> > Plot( 2, /* defines the height of the ribbon in percent of pane
width
> >> >
> >> > */"ribbon",
> >> >
> >> > IIf( intradelong, colorBrightGreen, IIf( intradeshort, colorRed,
> >> > colorYellow ) ), /* choose color */
> >> >
> >> > styleOwnScale | styleArea | styleNoLabel, -0.5, 100 );
> >> >
> >> > Title = _DEFAULT_NAME() + StrFormat( "{{NAME}} -
> >> > {{INTERVAL}} {{DATE}} Open %g, Hi %g, Lo %g, Close %g ", O, H,
L, C );
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > /////////////////////////////////////////////////Loop Code
> >> > Ends//////////////////////////////////////
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> >> On Behalf
> >> > Of gp_sydney
> >> > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 7:43 PM
> >> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: How to plot a maximum loss stop line
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What is your value of "TickSize"? If it's zero, ApplyStops
seems to do
> >> > nothing and you don't get any sell signals. If it's a positive
value,
> >> > then it is in dollars and the resulting value of
stopLevelPoints may
> >> > be too large for the current share price.
> >> >
> >> > If I try your formula with a tick size of 0.01 (ie. 1 cent), it
works
> >> > as expected.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > GP
> >> >
> >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> >> > "gyowell2000" <gyowell1@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I have been attempting to plot a maximum loss stop line
> > following the
> >> > > code for plotting a trailing stop provided by TJ in the Knowledge
> >> > > base:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> > http://www.amibroker.com/kb/2007/03/24/how-to-plot-a-trailing-stop-in-
> >> > > the-price-chart/
> >> > >
> >> > > My code follows, unfortunately it doesn't work! I have used ticks
> >> > > for max loss allowed instead of percentages. I also wanted a
system
> >> > > that would accomodate either long or short sales.
> >> > >
> >> > > ////////////////////////Code begins/////////////////////////////
> >> > > StopLevelticks = Param("stoplevel ticks", 3, 0, 20, 1 );
> >> > > stoplevelpoints = stoplevelticks*TickSize;
> >> > > SetTradeDelays(0,0,0,0);
> >> > >
> >> > > Buy = Cross( MACD(), Signal() );
> >> > > Short = Cross(Signal(), MACD() );
> >> > > Sell = 0;
> >> > > Cover = 0;
> >> > > ApplyStop( stopTypeLoss, stopModePoint, StopLevelpoints, True );
> >> > >
> >> > > Equity( 1, 0 ); // evaluate stops, all quotes
> >> > >
> >> > > InTradelong = Flip( Buy, Sell );
> >> > > InTradeshort = Flip( Short, Cover );
> >> > >
> >> > > SetOption("EveryBarNullCheck", True );
> >> > > stoplinelong = IIf( InTradelong, ValueWhen( Buy, BuyPrice) -
> >> > > stoplevelpoints , Null );
> >> > > stoplineshort = IIf( InTradeshort, ValueWhen( Short,
ShortPrice) +
> >> > > stoplevelpoints , Null );
> >> > >
> >> > > PlotShapes(Buy*shapeUpArrow,colorBrightGreen,0,Low);
> >> > > PlotShapes(Short*shapeDownArrow,colorRed,0,High);
> >> > > PlotShapes(Cover*shapeHollowUpArrow,colorBrightGreen,0,Low);
> >> > > PlotShapes(Sell*shapeHollowDownArrow,colorRed,0,High);
> >> > >
> >> > > SetBarFillColor( IIf( C > O, colorBrightGreen, colorRed ) );
> >> > >
> >> > > Plot( Close,"Price",colorWhite,styleCandle);
> >> > > Plot( stoplinelong, "maxloss line long", colorBrightGreen );
> >> > > Plot( stoplineshort, "maxloss line short", colorRed );
> >> > > //////////////////////////Code
Ends/////////////////////////////////
> >> > >
> >> > > Converting TJ's code from a trailing stop to a maximum loss stop
> > and
> >> > > getting the functionality to handle shorts proved to be be more
> >> > > difficult than I had anticipated.
> >> > >
> >> > > I would appreciate any help in clearing up the problems in
the code
> >> > > above.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks in advance,
> >> > >
> >> > > Grover Yowell
> >> > >
>
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