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--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@xxx> wrote:
>
> Jan,
> 
> 100,000 repetitions indeed!
> 
> Quite correct.
> 
> 
> 
> However on the subject of 'mindNOT' and Samadhi etc.
> 
> There are a lot of misconceptions floating around in the 
west/modern 
> culture, on these subjects, because of the mis-interpretation of 
the 
> spiritual tenents of our BROTHERS OF THE EAST by unqualified and 
> unauthorised 'teachers'.
> 
> There is a dirth of true spiritual teachers in the West, for 
reasons 
> that I won't go into.
> 
> You are mixing up two different principles.
> 
> In symbolic terms:
> 
> CONSCIOUSNESS wears the CROWN.
> The objective NOT is the subjective ALL (THE LOGOS).
> 
> You are confusing the "Son of God" with our "Heavenly Father"
> 
> In general Kharma Yoga is the method for the west/modern culture == 
> the SOUL as an active principle == GOOD WORKS
> 
> Pragmatically:
> 
> Don't be concerned about NoMind - it is not for most of us - a very 
> abstract subject beyond the ken of the majority.
> 
> NoMind != mindlessness
> 
> You can't achieve it because it is not there to be achieved in the 
> way that you are conceiving it.
> 
> Intuition is what we should be concerned with.
> 
> Intuition is not mind reading OR an inferior psychic faculty i.e. 
> inferior to the Concete Mind (objective logic).
> It is not the sixth sense, although we experience it as if it is.
> It should be more correctly known as super-rationality.
> It is our higher mind (also know as the Higher Self, the OverSoul, 
> The Solar Angel, Abstract Mind, Manas).
> It bridges the gap between Heaven and Earth.
> 
> In trading it is most appropriately used along the lines 
of 'positive 
> thinking', the 'power of the mind', 'untapped levels of 
> consciousness' etc which is the popular form of it in the USA where 
> it is a pseudo-religion (the reason for that is that it is so 
aligned 
> to the methods that are appropriate for the times).
> 
> These methods are safe to use but it is very unfortunate if the 
> admonition to do GOOD WORKS doesn't accompany them.
> 
> 
> In your case; you and your trading are working well and if it ain't 
> broke don't fix it.
> 
> Forget your search for the spiritual Holy Grail of NoMind - that is 
> an impossible dream because it doesn't exist.
> 
> I wouldn't worry about your personal spiritual welfare - you seem 
to 
> be sitting quite pretty.
> 
> brian_z *:-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jan Malmberg" <jan@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Well, I had 6 years of martial arts training, where I understood 
> (but
> > unfortunately not yet attained) the principle of "no-mind" when 
> executing
> > tasks. I have also had some limited time as a military 
instructor, 
> and it
> > became obvious that during patrol and combat, when people fire at 
> you
> > (blanks and smoke grenades, but still), there ones who make it 
are 
> the ones
> > who do not take the time to think.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > However, ones ability to enter this state of mind is dependent on 
> having
> > enough training so that you subconsciously know that you really 
do 
> not have
> > to think about how to move and shoot properly.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Of the Tekki Shodan pattern, the ancient warriors said something 
to 
> the
> > effect of "Most patterns require at least 10 000 executions 
before 
> being
> > mastered. However, you should not even consider demonstrating 
Tekki 
> Shodan
> > to your master before you have had 100 000 repetitions."
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > It is interesting to note that to reach the original state of 
mind 
> while
> > carrying out un-natural activities, you do need lots of training, 
> and that
> > some things in every field are a lot more difficult than the 
> average task in
> > that skill set.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Best regards / JM
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   _____  
> > 
> > Från: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> För
> > brian_z111
> > Skickat: den 1 augusti 2008 05:32
> > Till: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Ämne: Re: SV: [amibroker] Anyone actually making money?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > > 3. Level of spiritual attainment.
> > 
> > Semantics plays a part in any discussion, especially when we are 
> > crossing cultures etc. It plays a greater role in 'spiritual' 
> > discussion than it does in any other.
> > 
> > So, first the semantics.
> > 
> > We are not limited to the term 'spirituality' as we can talk 
around 
> > the same area in many different terms (objective mind/subjective 
> > mind, rational/intuitive, super-consciousness, super-rationality 
> the 
> > collective unconscious, God, the Soul, the Divine, the Supreme 
and 
> > millions more).
> > 
> > For ease of discussion I will stick with 'spirituality'.
> > 
> > A few basic points:
> > 
> > - generally the 'spiritual gene' is latent in humanity, across 
all 
> > cultures
> > - it is more virile in a small % 
> > - it is particularly latent in the West/modern culture where we 
> have 
> > turned our back on our spirituality
> > - I dare say this forum has more than its share of latent 
> > spirituality under the surface
> > - the psychic opposites are not antagonistic forces e.g. soul 
> versus 
> > body but rather a complimentary whole so that is not a matter of 
> > logic/programming trading versus intuitive/discretionary trading. 
> We 
> > are all using both, at different times and places, even those who 
> > deny it (there is no such thing as a 100% objective/rational 
> person).
> > - a healthy psyche has a good balance and flows between each 
> psychic 
> > pole in its own season.
> > 
> > The main pragmatic points:
> > 
> > - we can't bootstrap our subjective mind so we have to turn to 
> > mentors for written or oral teaching
> > - some have more aptitude for it than others
> > - I was very priviliged to have some experience in these matters 
> long 
> > before I started trading (my subjective consciousness/soul was 
> > already active and able to express itself in the world) but it 
> still 
> > took years of pragmatic, practical, objective work to 'program' 
the 
> > trading mind to match i.e. I had to pass a sufficient number of 
> > exams, in the core units, at the 'University of Trading', before 
I 
> > could 'enter the trading zone'.
> > 
> > In laymans terms, my intuitive mind was functioning but I still 
had 
> > to go out and tediously train my rational/objective mind, and 
learn 
> > as many of the objective rules of trading as I could, before the 
> > subjective and the objective minds could synchronize in the 
trading 
> > room.
> > 
> > "Give unto Caeser that which is Caesers AND give homage to your 
> God".
> > 
> > brian_z
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> 
> ps.com, "Jan
> > Malmberg" <jan@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I sometimes daytrade using even delayed data for the charts, 
and 
> a 
> > list
> > > compiled list stored in my broker's web application. It works 
> > alright. Most
> > > of the time I do short-to-mid-term swing trading. With just the 
> 15-
> > min
> > > delayed data. Ok, real-time for the indexes.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Here's my opinion.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The three components that determine your success are usually:
> > > 
> > > 1. Level of analysis. How good you can produce low-risk entries 
> > with a
> > > probable future outcome, which of course is never totally 
> possible.
> > > 2. Level of money management. How much you bet on one single 
> > trade, how
> > > well you scale in, scale out, set and stick to stop-orders, and 
> > more.
> > > 3. Level of spiritual attainment. How much you have attained the
> > > "no-mind" state of the ancient warriors and spiritually 
achieved 
> > people.
> > > Which means that you fearlessly execute trades while 
maintaining a
> > > risk-appropriate behavior. Only really possible when you no 
> longer 
> > fear the
> > > horrible market and what it might do to you.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Which one is most important? The one you lack the most at the 
> > moment. I was
> > > fortunate to start out with fairly solid money management from 
> the 
> > start.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Best regards / JM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _____ 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> 
> ps.com
> > [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> 
> ps.com] 
> > On Behalf
> > > Of Louis P.
> > > Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 2:15 PM
> > > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> 
> ps.com
> > > Subject: [amibroker] Anyone actually making money?
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I was only wondering... Anyone actually making money or making 
a 
> > living
> > > with AB and trading?
> > > 
> > > I've been working on ideas and plans for over 7 months now and 
> > didn't find
> > > anything convincing yet. I've been searching daily data, then 
> > hourly,
> > > 15-minute and now I am into 1-minute data and nothing seems 
> > satisfying.
> > > Been searching RSI, MFI, ADX, MA, HHV, LLV... nothing seems to 
> work.
> > > 
> > > So... Anyone is making consistent money with this, and if so, 
at 
> > which
> > > timeframe and how do you do it? 
> > > 
> > > I'm beginning to think about switching to tick database; it 
seems 
> > even
> > > 1-minute is too slow for intraday trading. Anyone making money 
> with
> > > 1-minute?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Louis
> > >
> >
>



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