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Tomasz,

Thanks to you for your answer, and also the other contributors to 
this discussion, which I find helpful.

First I will get on my hobby horse.

We have shot ourselves in the foot with our reluctance to move to a 
forum with better tools and support the UKB initiative because the 
discussion in this forum is inefficient (no whiteboard, no 
categorization, no inline images) - it can be hard to understand what 
the cutting edge thinkers are talking about without some pictures.

Let's hope some stubborn minded fool comes along, works his  backside 
off to offer us an alternative and the majority vote with their feet 
and actually use it.



Re the current discussion:

- now that I am an AB survivor I want different things than before
- I now view it as a backtesting engine fullstop (I can get stats 
packs and do MoneyManagement elsewhere but I can't replace the BT 
features)
- it is a good thing that AB can do anything, if I am good enough 
(because it is a complete programming language and because it is open 
to development)so thanks for that Tomasz.
If I work hard I can do things way beyond any other program that I 
know of.
- while some people struggle with the array concept I actually find 
it easier for me to think in those terms and it is embedded in my 
mindview of how AB works SO I personally want more arrays and less 
COM/CBT
- one problem is that AB survivors have gone beyond the textbooks and 
are cutting edge specialists (we find it hard to even talk to each 
other because our perspectives are totally unique). It would be very 
hard for you to code into AB what each one of us wants.
- AB is not optimised for backtesting yet (it is not your fault the 
fact is that current practise is rooted in the past while your best 
students are pusning the boundaries, while not wanting to give away 
too much about what they are doing.
- 'we' need to push on with backtesting improvements
- for now (until I get off my butt and learn some more real 
programming) I am a hardened array programmer and this is what I want 
to do:

a) backtest a watchlist
b) set the bar range to backtest (no. bars or date range) etc
c) get all trades irrespective of available equity 
d) turn off money managment (optional to turn back on if needed)
e) for each symbol as an array return - all trades (as%)
                                       - time in trade
f) reference the trade series for each symbol so that I can calc 
stdev, ave, W/L, PayOff ratios etc.

Do all this in AFL/arrays.

Perhaps I could even save the results the way we save the backtest 
reports at the moment.

In summary what I am after is a trade series matrix with a symbol 
list as the row header and trade no. (time based) as the column 
heading AND I want this to be persistent, at least for the life of 
the BT OR at least to export it to a spreadsheet as a matrix.

Can I do this, all from AFL with a click of the BT button, at the 
moment?

Please note: I have tried to talk a little bit about system root 
analysis in this forum but it gets lost without pictures and a 
tutorial BUT with trade series% and time in trade, as arrays, we can 
perform any metric/equity analysis we can think of and plot any combo 
we want.

The metrics are not actually scalar, they are only reported that way 
in AB. They do have variance so it people are interested in that they 
can get if from the trade series.

Thanks,

I appreciate you taking the time to consider our views on the BT 
feature.

brian_z

  




--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx> 
wrote:
>
> Hello,
> 
> You are mixing two things:
> a) equity derived metrics (such as drawdown) - that represent 
ARRAYS  and that are available already
> b) other metrics (like trade profits, trade duration) that are 
single SCALARS
> 
> a)
> Any EQUITY-based indicator is already possible via Equity chart.
> Sample Equity chart contains:
> equity
> cash,
> drawdown (underwater equity)
> bars since last equity high.
> 
> If you want to customize equity chart simply modify _Portfolio 
Equity.afl file. 
> Fred has done so and he is using for example Log(Equity) in his IO 
together with some other metrics
> derived from Equity. It does not require any COM. Just take 
portfolio equity usign Foreign("~~~EQUITY", "C")
> 
> Below is the code that Fred is using in his IO for the reference. 
> 
> Everybody can modify his/her Portfolio Equity formula to suit one's 
need.
> The code is open and you are free to modify it.
> 
> b)
> 
> As to
> > That SYSTEM PERFORMANCE INDICATORS are not offered as standard 
(build in) indicators is simply a lack of imagination. 
> > To plot the UPI, number of winning trades, trade profits, trade 
duration, or other system performance statistic 
> > on a time scale simply makes a lot common sense. btw, 
> > Applying these functions to price arrays can also give very 
interesting results. Price and equity arrays are not that different.
> 
> These metrics are NUMBERS. Just single SCALARS. They do NOT change 
over time. They are constant for single backtest.
> If you plot them you will get FLAT LINE.
> 
> > Saying "If you really have to plot them" is like saying "if you 
really have to make money".
> 
> >  The lack of System Performance Indicators is simply a void in 
technical analysis ready (LONG OVERDUE!) to
> 
> > be filled. To have to use the CBT, export the data, import the 
data, etc. to create 
> 
> > System Performance Indicators is simply too much work; no one 
will do it. 
> 
> 
> 
> The system performance metrics are single NUMBERS (scalars). Just 
like 23.4. This is a number that does not change. When plotted - it 
is FLAT LINE.
> 
> 
> 
> They are not "overdue" because they simply are reported in BACKTEST 
REPORT, as numbers. 
> 
> The same as in Tradestation, Wealth Lab, Trading Recipes, or 
whatever.
> 
> 
> 
> > Most of us are here to trade and not to > learn new programming 
languages; 
> 
> > OLE and CBT are advanced tools for programmers. imo, System 
Performance Indicators should be as readily available as the RSI() 
and CMO(). 
> 
> 
> Again, you are missing the point. Backtest metrics are scalars, not 
arrays like RSI/CMO.
> The metrics are available as single numbers AFTER backtest.
> If some metric is say 23.4 plotting it would result in flat line 
like
> Plot( 23.4, "Sample metric plot", colorRed );
> 
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> 
> /**** BELOW CODE IS A PART OF IO.zip (Intelligent Optimizer by Fred 
Tonetti) archive from the AmiBroker Mailing List File section ***/
> /*** http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/files/IO.zip 
****/
> /*** It shows example customization of built-in portfolio equity 
chart */
> 
> #pragma nocache
> 
> MaxGraph    = 10;
> GraphZOrder =  1;
> GraphYSpace =  5;
> 
> Arrows   = ParamToggle("Arrows", "No|Yes", 1);
> 
> BIR      = IIf(Status("BarInRange") > 0, 1, 0);
> 
> ISeq     = Foreign("~~~EQUITY", "C", 1);
> 
> CurEq    = Foreign("~~IO~Equity", "C", 1);
> CurIOS   = Foreign("~~IO~Equity", "V", 1);
> CurSig   = Foreign("~~IO~Equity", "I", 1);
> 
> CS128    = IIf(CurSig >= 128, 1, 0);
> CurSig   = IIf(CS128  == 1, CurSig - 128, CurSig);
> CS64     = IIf(CurSig >= 64, 1, 0);
> CurSig   = IIf(CS64   == 1, CurSig - 64, CurSig);
> CS32     = IIf(CurSig >= 32, 1, 0);
> CurSig   = IIf(CS32   == 1, CurSig - 32, CurSig);
> CS16     = IIf(CurSig >= 16, 1, 0);
> CurSig   = IIf(CS16   == 1, CurSig - 16, CurSig);
> CS8      = IIf(CurSig >= 8, 1, 0);
> CurSig   = IIf(CS8    == 1, CurSig - 8, CurSig);
> CS4      = IIf(CurSig >= 4, 1, 0);
> CurSig   = IIf(CS4    == 1, CurSig - 4, CurSig);
> CS2      = IIf(CurSig >= 2, 1, 0);
> CurSig   = IIf(CS2    == 1, CurSig - 2, CurSig);
> CS1      = IIf(CurSig >= 1, 1, 0);
> CurSig   = IIf(CS1    == 1, CurSig - 1, CurSig);
> 
> BarEnt   = IIf(CS1 == 1 OR CS4 == 1 OR CS16 == 1 OR CS64 == 1, 1, 
0);
> CurEnt   = IIf(BarEnt != 0, CurEq, 0);
> 
> LastIS   = CurIOS == 0 AND Ref(CurIOS, 1) != 0;
> OtherOOS = CurIOS != Ref(CurIOS, 1);
> 
> MaxEq    = Highest(CurEq);
> FlatEq   = IIf(BIR, BarsSince(MaxEq > Ref(MaxEq,-1)),0);
> MaxFlat  = Highest(FlatEq);
> LMaxFlat = LastValue(MaxFlat) * (1 + GraphYSpace / 100);
> LogEq    = log10(CurEq);
> 
> CurDD    = IIf(CurEq < MaxEq, 100 * (MaxEq - CurEq) / MaxEq, 0);
> RCurDD   = round(CurDD * 100) / 100;
> MaxDD    = Highest(CurDD);
> RMaxDD   = round(MaxDD * 100) / 100;
> LMaxDD   = LastValue(MaxDD) * (1 + GraphYSpace / 100);
> SqrDD    = CurDD ^ 2;
> CumDD    = Cum(SqrDD);
> 
> MaxEnt   = Highest(CurEnt);
> CurDDE   = IIf(CurEq < MaxEnt, 100 * (MaxEnt - CurEq) / MaxEnt, 0);
> RCurDDE  = round(CurDDE * 100) / 100;
> MaxDDE   = Highest(CurDDE);
> RMaxDDE  = round(MaxDDE * 100) / 100;
> 
> FirstBar = LastValue(ValueWhen(Status("FirstBarInRange") > 0, Cum
(1)));
> LastBar  = LastValue(ValueWhen(Status("LastBarInRange") > 0, Cum
(1)));
> TotBars  = LastValue(Cum(1));
> BarNo    = ValueWhen(BIR > 0, Cum(1) - FirstBar + 1);
> NoBars   = LastValue(BarNo);
> 
> Dates    = DateNum();
> Days     = ValueWhen(BIR > 0, IIf(Dates != Ref(Dates,-1), 1, 0));
> TotDays  = Cum(Days);
> BPD      = round(BarNo / TotDays);
> 
> BAHEq       = ValueWhen(BIR > 0, Ref(CurEq, -(BarNo - 1)) * (C / Ref
(C, -(BarNo - 1))));
> BAHMaxEq    = Highest(BAHEq);
> BAHFlatEq   = IIf(BIR, BarsSince(BAHMaxEq > Ref(BAHMaxEq,-1)),0);
> BAHMaxFlat  = Highest(BAHFlatEq);
> BAHLMaxFlat = LastValue(BAHMaxFlat) * (1 + GraphYSpace / 100);
> 
> BAHCurDD    = IIf(BAHEq < BAHMaxEq, 100 * (BAHMaxEq - BAHEq) / 
BAHMaxEq, 0);
> BAHRCurDD   = round(BAHCurDD * 100) / 100;
> BAHMaxDD    = Highest(BAHCurDD);
> BAHRMaxDD   = round(BAHMaxDD * 100) / 100;
> BAHLMaxDD   = LastValue(BAHMaxDD) * (1 + GraphYSpace / 100);
> BAHSqrDD    = BAHCurDD ^ 2;
> BAHCumDD    = Cum(BAHSqrDD);
> 
> LogBAHEq   = log10(BAHEq);
> 
> CAR      = ValueWhen(BIR > 0, 100 * ((CurEq / Ref(CurEq, -(BarNo - 
1))) ^ (1 / (BarNo / BPD / 252)) -1));
> Ann      = ValueWhen(BIR > 0, 100 * ((CurEq / Ref(CurEq, -(252 * 
BPD)) - 1)));
> MAR      = ValueWhen(BIR > 0, CAR / MaxDD);
> UI       = ValueWhen(BIR > 0, sqrt(CumDD / BarNo));
> UPI      = (CAR - 5.4) / UI;
> 
> BAHCAR   = ValueWhen(BIR > 0, 100 * ((BAHEq / Ref(BAHEq, -(BarNo - 
1))) ^ (1 / (BarNo / BPD / 252)) -1));
> BAHAnn   = ValueWhen(BIR > 0, 100 * ((BAHEq / Ref(BAHEq, -(252 * 
BPD)) - 1)));
> BAHMAR   = ValueWhen(BIR > 0, BAHCAR / BAHMaxDD);
> BAHUI    = ValueWhen(BIR > 0, sqrt(BAHCumDD / BarNo));
> BAHUPI   = (BAHCAR - 5.4) / BAHUI;
> 
> OSCAR1   = ValueWhen(CurIOS >= 1, 100 * ISEq / Highest(ValueWhen
(LastIS == 1, ISEq)));
> OSMaxEq1 = ValueWhen(CurIOS >= 1, Highest(ISEq));
> OSCurDD1 = IIf(CurIOS >= 1, 100 * (OSMaxEq1 - ISEq) / OSMaxEq1, 0);
> OSMaxDD1 = Highest(OSCurDD1);
> OSMAR1   = OSCAR1 / OSMaxDD1;
> 
> OSCAR2   = ValueWhen(CurIOS >= 1, 100 * CurEq / Highest(ValueWhen
(LastIS == 1, CurEq)));
> OSMaxEq2 = ValueWhen(CurIOS >= 1, Highest(CurEq));
> OSCurDD2 = IIf(CurIOS >= 1, 100 * (OSMaxEq2 - CurEq) / OSMaxEq2, 0);
> OSMaxDD2 = Highest(OSCurDD2);
> OSMAR2   = OSCAR2 / OSMaxDD2;
> 
> WFEcar   = 100 * OSCAR2 / OSCAR1;
> WFEmar   = 100 * OSMAR2 / OSMAR1;
> 
> b0       = LastValue(LinRegIntercept(Ref(LogEq, -(TotBars - 
LastBar)), NoBars));
> m        = LastValue(LinRegSlope(Ref(LogEq, -(TotBars - LastBar)), 
NoBars));
> y        = m * BarNo + b0;
> 
> BarsCum  = ValueWhen(BIR > 0, Cum(BarNo));
> AvgBar   = LastValue(BarsCum) / NoBars;
> SRDevSQ  = ValueWhen(BIR > 0, sqrt(Cum((BarNo - AvgBar) ^ 2)));
> ErrEq    = LastValue(StdErr(Ref(logEq, -(TotBars - LastBar)), 
NoBars));
> KRatio   = ValueWhen(BIR > 0, m * SRDevSQ / ErrEq / sqrt(NoBars));
> 
> Title1 = EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "LinReg= "  + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(128,128,255)) + WriteVal(10 ^ y,     3.0) + " " +
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "CurFlat="  + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(255,223,  0)) + WriteVal(FlatEq,     3.0) + " " +
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "Ann="      + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(  0,255,  0)) + WriteVal(Ann,        3.2) + "% " 
+
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "MDDE="     + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(255,128,  0)) + WriteVal(MaxDDE,     3.2) + "% " 
+
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "CDD="      + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(255,  0,  0)) + WriteVal(CurDD,      3.2) + "% " 
+
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "wfeCAR="   + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(255,255,  0)) + WriteVal(WFECar,     3.2) + "% " 
+
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "wfeMAR="   + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(255,255,  0)) + WriteVal(WFEMAR,     3.2) + "% ";
> 
> Title2 = "\n" +
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "Equity = " + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(224,224,224)) + WriteVal(CurEq,      3.0) + " " +
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "MaxFlat="  + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(255,223,  0)) + WriteVal(MaxFlat,    3.0) + " " +
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "CAR="      + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(  0,255,  0)) + WriteVal(CAR,        3.2) + "% " 
+
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "MDD="      + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(255,  0,  0)) + WriteVal(MaxDD,      3.2) + "% " 
+
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "MAR="      + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(  0,255,  0)) + WriteVal(MAR,        3.2) + " " +
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "UI="       + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(255,  0,255)) + WriteVal(UI,         3.2) + " " +
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "UPI="      + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(  0,255,  0)) + WriteVal(UPI,        3.2) + " " +
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "KR="       + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,255,160)) + WriteVal(KRatio,     3.2) + " ";
> 
> Title3 = "\n" +
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "B & H  = " + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(128,128,128)) + WriteVal(BAHEq,      3.0) + " " +
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "MaxFlat="  + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(208,176,  0)) + WriteVal(BAHMaxFlat, 3.0) + " " +
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "CAR="      + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(  0,192,  0)) + WriteVal(BAHCAR,     3.2) + "% " 
+
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "MDD="      + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(208,  0,  0)) + WriteVal(BAHMaxDD,   3.2) + "% " 
+ 
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "MAR="      + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(  0,192,  0)) + WriteVal(BAHMAR,     3.2) + " " +
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "UI="       + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(208,  0,208)) + WriteVal(BAHUI,      3.2) + " " +
>          EncodeColor(ColorRGB(160,160,160)) + "UPI="      + 
EncodeColor(ColorRGB(  0,192,  0)) + WriteVal(BAHUPI,     3.2);
> 
> Title = Title1 + Title2 + Title3;
> 
> Plot(IIf(BarNo > 0 AND BIR >  0, -RCurDD,  -1e10), "CDD",   
colorDarkRed, styleThick | styleOwnScale | styleArea, -LMaxDD,   
LMaxDD);
> Plot(IIf(BarNo > 0 AND BIR == 0, -RCurDD,  -1e10), "CDD",   
colorDarkRed, styleThick | styleOwnScale | styleLine, -LMaxDD,   
LMaxDD);
> Plot(IIf(BarNo > 0,              -RMaxDD,  -1e10), "MDD",   
colorDarkRed, styleThick | styleOwnScale,             -LMaxDD,   
LMaxDD);
> Plot(IIf(BarNo > 0 AND BIR >  0, -RCurDDE, -1e10), "CDDE",  
colorOrange,  styleThick | styleOwnScale | styleArea, -LMaxDD,   
LMaxDD);
> Plot(IIf(BarNo > 0 AND BIR == 0, -RCurDDE, -1e10), "CDDE",  
colorOrange,  styleThick | styleOwnScale | styleLine, -LMaxDD,   
LMaxDD);
> Plot(IIf(BarNo > 0,              -RMaxDDE, -1e10), "MDDE",  
colorOrange,  styleThick | styleOwnScale,             -LMaxDD,   
LMaxDD);
> Plot(IIf(BarNo > 0,               FlatEq,  -1e10), "CF",    
colorGold,    styleThick | styleOwnScale | styleArea, -LMaxFlat, 
LMaxFlat);
> Plot(IIf(BarNo > 0,               MaxFlat, -1e10), "MF",    
colorGold,    styleThick | styleOwnScale,             -LMaxFlat, 
LMaxFlat);
> 
> Plot(LastIS,   "LastIS",   colorLightGrey, styleHistogram | 
styleThick | styleNoLabel | styleOwnScale);
> Plot(OtherOOS, "OtherOOS", colorLightGrey, styleHistogram 
|              styleNoLabel | styleOwnScale);
> 
> Plot(IIf(BIR > 0, Y,        -1e10), "L/R Eq", colorBlue,      
styleThick | styleNoLabel);
> Plot(IIf(BIR > 0, LogBAHEq, -1e10), "BAH Eq", colorGrey50,    
styleThick | styleNoLabel);
> Plot(IIf(BIR > 0, LogEq,    -1e10), "Sys Eq", colorLightGrey, 
styleThick | styleNoLabel);
> 
> S1   = (CS1   == 1) * shapeUpArrow;
> S2   = (CS2   == 1) * shapeDownArrow;
> S4   = (CS4   == 1) * shapeDownArrow;
> S8   = (CS8   == 1) * shapeUpArrow;
> S16  = (CS16  == 1) * shapeUpArrow;
> S32  = (CS32  == 1) * shapeDownArrow;
> S64  = (CS64  == 1) * shapeDownArrow;
> S128 = (CS128 == 1) * shapeUpArrow;
> 
> if (Arrows == True)
> {
>     PlotShapes(IIf(BIR > 0, S2,   -1e10), colorWhite,       0, 
LogEq, -11);
>     PlotShapes(IIf(BIR > 0, S8,   -1e10), colorWhite,       0, 
LogEq, -11);
> 
>     PlotShapes(IIf(BIR > 0, S1,   -1e10), colorBrightGreen, 0, 
logEq, IIf(CS8,   -17, -11));
>     PlotShapes(IIf(BIR > 0, S4,   -1e10), colorRed,         0, 
logEq, IIf(CS2,   -17, -11));
> 
>     PlotShapes(IIf(BIR > 0, S32,  -1e10), colorGrey50,      0, 
LogEq, -11);
>     PlotShapes(IIf(BIR > 0, S128, -1e10), colorGrey50,      0, 
LogEq, -11);
> 
>     PlotShapes(IIf(BIR > 0, S16,  -1e10), colorBlue,        0, 
LogEq, IIf(CS128, -17, -11));
>     PlotShapes(IIf(BIR > 0, S64,  -1e10), 11,               0, 
LogEq, IIf(CS32,  -17, -11));
> }
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Herman 
>   To: Tomasz Janeczko 
>   Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 2:12 AM
>   Subject: [amibroker] System Performance Indicators [was: Can 
someone fix this OLE code?]
> 
> 
>   Tomasz, I am neither a mathematician nor a professional 
programmer and I really don't know how to convey this simple and 
obvious idea any better. If this email doesn't get the idea across 
I'll let it be. If others understand what I am talking about they can 
continue the discussion. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Indicators to display system performance are an effective and 
essential tool in the design and evaluation of trading systems. 
Trading the equity is a simple example, plotting DrawDowns is 
another. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Traditional Indicators are based on PRICE; System Performance 
Indicators are based on EQUITY. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   That SYSTEM PERFORMANCE INDICATORS are not offered as standard 
(build in) indicators is simply a lack of imagination. To plot the 
UPI, number of winning trades, trade profits, trade duration, or 
other system performance statistic on a time scale simply makes a lot 
common sense. btw, Applying these functions to price arrays can also 
give very interesting results. Price and equity arrays are not that 
different.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Saying "If you really have to plot them" is like saying "if you 
really have to make money". The lack of System Performance Indicators 
is simply a void in technical analysis ready (LONG OVERDUE!) to be 
filled. To have to use the CBT, export the data, import the data, 
etc. to create System Performance Indicators is simply too much work; 
no one will do it. Most of us are here to trade and not to learn new 
programming languages; OLE and CBT are advanced tools for 
programmers. imo, System Performance Indicators should be as readily 
available as the RSI() and CMO(). 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   best regards,
> 
>   herman
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Sunday, May 18, 2008, 4:17:49 AM, you wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         >
>        Hello,
> 
> 
> 
>         1. Even if it works it is completely not supported and may 
to problems/crashes etc. It is like driving all the time on reverse 
gear.
> 
>         Reverse gear is not designed to be used for 10 hours drive.
> 
> 
> 
>         2. I see no reason to "plot" single numbers like UPI, 
number of trades in indicator.  That would be just a bunch of flat 
lines.
> 
>         Also indicator should be lightweight. The indicator code 
should execute very quickly because indicators are refreshed very 
often.
> 
>         You are (ab)using indicators for things not designed for 
them. Indicator code is for indicators. Automatic analysis is for 
backtesting. Indicators are not
> 
>         and should never be used that way.
> 
> 
> 
>         3. If you really need to plot them
> 
>         - all stats are accessible from CUSTOM BACKTESTER, if you 
want to "plot" them, use custom backtester,
> 
>         write them to TEXT File (using fopen/fputs/fclose) and from 
the indicator you will be able to read them (using fopen/fgets/fclose)
> 
> 
> 
>         That's a proper way to do that.
> 
> 
> 
>         To repeat the same analogy - although you can drive on 
reverse gear for 100 miles, your cars is not designed to be used that 
way.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         Best regards,
> 
>         Tomasz Janeczko
> 
>         amibroker.com
> 
>         ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
>         From: Herman 
> 
>         To: Tomasz Janeczko 
> 
>         Cc: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> 
>         Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 2:28 PM
> 
>         Subject: Re: [amibroker] Can someone fix this OLE code?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         OK Tomasz, but the code produces a nice BT report each time 
i click the Trigger. Seemingly flawless. Seems only a tweak would be 
required to make it work robust.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         I am going through all this trouble just to be able to 
access the Backtester stats from an indicator (I was going to extract 
the last value from the report on bar-by-bar BTs!). 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         System analysis in the time domain is frustrated/impossible 
because basic AB users (non professional programmer) can't retrieve 
and plot the Backtester stats, like UPI, %Winners, Number of trades, 
etc. Thus there is a big void wrt system analysis - see my suggestion 
#1335 and support tag [#49377]. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         I wish that formulas for these functions were made public 
so that they can be used in indicators. This Would open up a whole 
new world to evaluate, analyze, and design trading systems. The 
single numbers in the AA give very limited information. With all 
respect, please do not mention the CBT... that solution is for less 
than 10% of users and I don't have enough days left to learn all that 
stuff.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         best regards,
> 
>         herman
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         Saturday, May 17, 2008, 8:10:10 PM, you wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>               >
>              But... the example in help
> 
>               a) works
> 
>               b) presents OUTSIDE ***JScript*** code
> 
>               http://www.amibroker.com/guide/objects.html
> 
>               c) does not contain
> 
>               AA.Analysis.RangeN (wrong line)
> 
> 
> 
>               Again I want to stress that out that Analysis COM 
object must not be used form 
> 
>               AFL level. The functionality is provided to control 
Automatic Analysis from OUTSIDE
> 
>               of AmiBroker. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>               Best regards,
> 
>               Tomasz Janeczko
> 
>               amibroker.com
> 
>               ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
>               From: Herman 
> 
>               To: dingo 
> 
>               Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 2:02 PM
> 
>               Subject: Re: [amibroker] Can someone fix this OLE 
code?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>               won't do. Actually 99% of this code was copied from 
the AB help.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>               h
> 
> 
> 
> 
>               For tips on developing Real-Time Auto-Trading systems 
visit:
> 
>               http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/
> 
> 
> 
> 
>               Saturday, May 17, 2008, 7:54:44 PM, you wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                     >
>                    ON the clearfilters() take off the () and try it.
> 
> 
> 
>                     d
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>                     From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Herman
> 
>                     Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 7:49 AM
> 
>                     To: dingo
> 
>                     Cc: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>                     Subject: Re: [amibroker] Can someone fix this 
OLE code?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                     it runs fine except for the WLN and BRS changes 
i need.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                     h
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                     For tips on developing Real-Time Auto-Trading 
systems visit:
> 
>                     http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                     Saturday, May 17, 2008, 7:46:35 PM, you wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                           >
>                          Maybe AB won't let you run a backtest 
within an indicator - time to ask TJ.
> 
> 
> 
>                           d
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> 
>                           From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Herman
> 
>                           Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 7:40 AM
> 
>                           To: dingo
> 
>                           Cc: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>                           Subject: Re: [amibroker] Can someone fix 
this OLE code?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                           Hi d, I tried that initially but No go.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                           thanks,
> 
>                           herman
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                           For tips on developing Real-Time Auto-
Trading systems visit:
> 
>                           http://www.amibroker.org/userkb/
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                           Saturday, May 17, 2008, 7:35:20 PM, you 
wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                                 >
>                                On the lines that give the error 
substitute a number constant for the variable and see if it works. If 
it does then it looks to me like it thinks the variables are arrays.
> 
> 
> 
>                                 d
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------
> 
>                                 From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Herman
> 
>                                 Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 7:01 AM
> 
>                                 To: AmiBroker User Group
> 
>                                 Subject: [amibroker] Can someone 
fix this OLE code?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                                 Can someone help me fix the code 
below so that when triggered in an Indicator, it: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                                 1) Backtest all tickers in 
watchlist WLN?
> 
>                                 2) Use range of BRS bars
> 
>                                 3) Output ONLY the one line BT 
Report?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                                 Many thanks!!!!
> 
>                                 herman
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                                 if ( ParamTrigger( "Run Com 
BT", "BT" ) )
> 
>                                 {
> 
>                                     WLN = 0; // the watchlist to 
backtest
> 
>                                     BRS = 100; // Number bars to 
test
> 
>                                     AB = CreateObject
( "Broker.Application" );
> 
>                                     AA = AB.Analysis;
> 
>                                     AA.LoadFormula( "C:\\Program 
Files\\AmiBroker\\Formulas\\Systems\\Example.afl" );
> 
>                                     AA.ClearFilters();
> 
>                                     AA.Filter( 0, "watchlist" ) = 
WLN;         // This gives syntax error...
> 
>                                     AA.ApplyTo = 1;
> 
>                                     AA.RangeMode = 1;
> 
>                                     AA.Analysis.RangeN = 
BRS;                 // This gives syntax error...
> 
>                                     AA.Backtest();
> 
>                                     AA.Report( "" );
> 
>                                 }
> 
> 
> 
> 
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